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Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Jacob Williams

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And I wish I had old photos from the side that I brush my hair towards but I never took them before because it was impossible to tell that it was bad, but today I brushed my hair the other way and it was much worse than I expected.
 

Jacob Williams

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To me it looks like the miniaturization on my temples is widening which is very concerning, but I obviously have trouble evaluating this objectively so I’d like some new sets of eyes.
 

Father_of_Shiseido

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That being said I could really use some help evaluating my progress photos to tell whether or not I’ve successfully stopped my balding or if I need to hop on estrogen.
Don't do estrogen at all costs. I am someone who has used topical estrogen ( On the scalp). It will damage your HPTA axis, and it would take almost a year to recover from it entirely. HPTA shut down would yield nonfunctional shrunken testicles for a very long time, and you will end up resorting to TRT at a very young age. Do some research on it.
 

Jacob Williams

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Don't do estrogen at all costs. I am someone who has used topical estrogen ( On the scalp). It will damage your HPTA axis, and it would take almost a year to recover from it entirely. HPTA shut down would yield nonfunctional shrunken testicles for a very long time, and you will end up resorting to TRT at a very young age. Do some research on it.
That’s what terrifies me. I just don’t understand why I can’t even maintain on such intense drugs. Makes no f*****g sense.
 

Father_of_Shiseido

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That’s what terrifies me. I just don’t understand why I can’t even maintain on such intense drugs. Makes no f*****g sense.
I have used spironolactone in the past, and it worked quite well for me. However, for the first eight months on spironolactone, I was crying on every forum that spironolactone isn't Working for me. Keep patience; it takes time.
 

Jacob Williams

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I have used spironolactone in the past, and it worked quite well for me. However, for the first eight months on spironolactone, I was crying on every forum that spironolactone isn't Working for me. Keep patience; it takes time.
That’s what I’m hoping. I’ve bounced around to so many routines. I’ve only been on my new one for a couple of months. I hope, pray, and beg that things will turn around.
 

Jacob Williams

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That’s what I’m hoping. I’ve bounced around to so many routines. I’ve only been on my new one for a couple of months. I hope, pray, and beg that things will turn around.
I think I’m a bit freaked out that I haven’t seen other changes that I would associate with lower T. I’ve been able to put on muscle mass, same amount of body hair, I can get erections and ejaculate fine. The only thing is I don’t get spontaneous erections. But I mean...I have to expect a T reduction on 25mg of CPA right? It would be crazy not to.
 

Father_of_Shiseido

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I think I’m a bit freaked out that I haven’t seen other changes that I would associate with lower T. I’ve been able to put on muscle mass, same amount of body hair, I can get erections and ejaculate fine. The only thing is I don’t get spontaneous erections. But I mean...I have to expect a T reduction on 25mg of CPA right? It would be crazy not to.
Cypro can reduce the size of your testicles.
 

NorwoodingMyWay

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I think I’m a bit freaked out that I haven’t seen other changes that I would associate with lower T. I’ve been able to put on muscle mass, same amount of body hair, I can get erections and ejaculate fine. The only thing is I don’t get spontaneous erections. But I mean...I have to expect a T reduction on 25mg of CPA right? It would be crazy not to.
So, you are using CPA with no E ?? You do know that you are risking side effects if both E and T are reduced, and that also goes for hair health, right ??
 

Jacob Williams

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So, you are using CPA with no E ?? You do know that you are risking side effects if both E and T are reduced, and that also goes for hair health, right ??
So I ran into gyno problems on bicalutamide monotherapy because my T and therefore E got too high. T deprivation in and of itself has never really given me gyno (I’ve taken 200mg of spironolactone daily with no issue before.) In order to combat this I wanted to try taking a combination of CPA and bicalutamide to hopefully lower my T levels to a reasonable level and then block the rest with bicalutamide. Unfortunately I don’t think CPA is doing a very good job of lowering my T. I initially planned to be taking only 6.25mg of CPA daily but even 25mg daily has given me no sides and no results.
 

Jacob Williams

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So I ran into gyno problems on bicalutamide monotherapy because my T and therefore E got too high. T deprivation in and of itself has never really given me gyno (I’ve taken 200mg of spironolactone daily with no issue before.) In order to combat this I wanted to try taking a combination of CPA and bicalutamide to hopefully lower my T levels to a reasonable level and then block the rest with bicalutamide. Unfortunately I don’t think CPA is doing a very good job of lowering my T. I initially planned to be taking only 6.25mg of CPA daily but even 25mg daily has given me no sides and no results.
The goal was never to tank my T all the way. I know 25mg seems like a dose that would do that but it’s done nothing to me. Maybe I should try buserelin.
 

Gergely

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So I ran into gyno problems on bicalutamide monotherapy because my T and therefore E got too high. T deprivation in and of itself has never really given me gyno (I’ve taken 200mg of spironolactone daily with no issue before.) In order to combat this I wanted to try taking a combination of CPA and bicalutamide to hopefully lower my T levels to a reasonable level and then block the rest with bicalutamide. Unfortunately I don’t think CPA is doing a very good job of lowering my T. I initially planned to be taking only 6.25mg of CPA daily but even 25mg daily has given me no sides and no results.
Did you get any blood tests done? 100mg spironolactone and 2mg E didn't cause gyno for me, but with bica and E i can feel it creeping up on me.
 

NorwoodingMyWay

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The goal was never to tank my T all the way. I know 25mg seems like a dose that would do that but it’s done nothing to me. Maybe I should try buserelin.
You are just guessing at this point. Alot of transwomen have their T nuked, yet they don't feel / get much results. The only way to be sure is to get blood tests. The drugs you are playing with aren't candy.




If you are not trying to get your T levels to 0, then why are you wanting to try buserelin ?? 25 mg CPA is most likely lowering your T levels, since recent studies show CPA's max effective dosage ranges between 5-12.5 mg.




As i said before, trying AAs like CPA without any additional form of a sex hormone, won't make your hair better. You could literally induce telogen effluvium amongst other things.
 

NorwoodingMyWay

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So I ran into gyno problems on bicalutamide monotherapy because my T and therefore E got too high. T deprivation in and of itself has never really given me gyno (I’ve taken 200mg of spironolactone daily with no issue before.) In order to combat this I wanted to try taking a combination of CPA and bicalutamide to hopefully lower my T levels to a reasonable level and then block the rest with bicalutamide. Unfortunately I don’t think CPA is doing a very good job of lowering my T. I initially planned to be taking only 6.25mg of CPA daily but even 25mg daily has given me no sides and no results.
Also, spironolactone is a weaker drug than Bica, and thus it won't block the ARs as efficiently, nor raise T levels as strongly as Bica.
 

Jacob Williams

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You are just guessing at this point. Alot of transwomen have their T nuked, yet they don't feel / get much results. The only way to be sure is to get blood tests. The drugs you are playing with aren't candy.




If you are not trying to get your T levels to 0, then why are you wanting to try buserelin ?? 25 mg CPA is most likely lowering your T levels, since recent studies show CPA's max effective dosage ranges between 5-12.5 mg.




As i said before, trying AAs like CPA without any additional form of a sex hormone, won't make your hair better. You could literally induce telogen effluvium amongst other things.
I’m probably going to start 2mg of oestrogel in a couple months. Sadly I’m moving right now so I don’t have an address I can safely ship to so I can’t order yet.
 
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