12 Years Later - Nothing Has Changed

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When I was 23/24, I started visibly noticing my receding hairline and thinning on top. Like almost all these threads on here, I panicked and did a bunch of research and found a hairloss forum that appears to get little traffic these days. I constantly thought about my hair and checked it numerous times throughout the day. My scalp was quite inflamed at the time and it was clear that DHT was having its way. On the forum, I learned of the ‘big three’ of Finasteride, Minoxidil and Nizoral. So I jumped in and bought generic proscar taking 1.25 mg daily, minoxidil liquid twice daily and Nizoral about 4-5 times a week. At the time I was probably a Norwood 2 to 2.5 or so but rapidly progressing.

Fast forward 12 years. I’ve been lazy with my regimen over the years but have generally stuck with 1.25 mg of generic finasteride about 5 times a week or so; although I miss weeks on end sometimes when I travel. I quit minoxidil because I was never consistent. I came to enjoy the feeling of Nizoral 1% and have generally used that about 4-5 times a week or so. My hair has stayed roughly the same (minor recession at the hairline) but I came to stop even thinking about my hair. It just wasn’t something on my mind much at all and that in itself was a big relief.

So I found this site to see if there have been any new developments. There obviously haven’t. It’s the same drugs we’ve had for over 20 years and the same exact questions that were discussed 12 years ago when I first found the forums.

Where am I going with this - a hairloss ‘cure’ is probably unlikely during our lifetimes. Stop obsessing over ‘it’s coming’ because it’s only a mere 5 years away and it’s in fda trials and what not. If your hair is a concern to you (which it obviously is or you wouldn’t be on here), Get on the big 3 or big 2 or perhaps just finasteride and stop worrying because there is nothing else you can do. The hairloss treatments may not be the best but they sure as heck best not doing anything.

My 2 cents. Just find it a bit funny that not a single thing has changed over the 12 years.
 

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Oh and I do complimented quite often among the group of 30-40 years old that I associate with that I have ‘great hair.’ I just smile and say thanks knowing that I’d be NW5 for sure had I not began treatment all those years ago.
 

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I think its reasonable to say that a hairloss cure will be here within 5 years. If you haven't yet look up Dr. Tsuji who has successfully multiplied human hair and transplanted it in mice. If he can commercialize his method soon that will be a cure. People will be able to get unlimited transplants until their hair is full density. Cost will probably start out very high but quickly come down as it becomes popular.

A potential true cure is something like Dr. Choi's PTD-DBM. The study about this peptide was released almost a year and a half ago. Dr. Choi likely has to find a better molecule but he was able to regrow human hair in vitro. So if he could do this on a human head it would regrow completley bald men.

There are also other companies working on hair cloning so it is only a matter of time.
 

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Do you think your quality of life was significantly higher due to the 12 years of having more hair then you were supposed to or do you feel like it did not make much of a difference?
 

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Any side effects so far from Finasteride?
None that I’m aware of but there would be no way to know as there could be side effects that built up over time that I didn’t notice or didn’t attribute to finasteride.

I will say that my sex drive appears to be a bit higher on finasteride than the times when I have got off it for a week or so. Could be purely coincidental, I don’t know. No problems getting and erection on or off.
 

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Do you think your quality of life was significantly higher due to the 12 years of having more hair then you were supposed to or do you feel like it did not make much of a difference?
Yes, absolutely just from the standpoint of worrying about my hair. Obsessing over anything is unhealthy and when I was 23-25ish it was causing me real anxiety and some crazy belief that people were staring at my hair when I went out (the reality is, no one really cared and no one was staring as it was all in my head).
 

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I think its reasonable to say that a hairloss cure will be here within 5 years. If you haven't yet look up Dr. Tsuji who has successfully multiplied human hair and transplanted it in mice. If he can commercialize his method soon that will be a cure. People will be able to get unlimited transplants until their hair is full density. Cost will probably start out very high but quickly come down as it becomes popular.

A potential true cure is something like Dr. Choi's PTD-DBM. The study about this peptide was released almost a year and a half ago. Dr. Choi likely has to find a better molecule but he was able to regrow human hair in vitro. So if he could do this on a human head it would regrow completley bald men.

There are also other companies working on hair cloning so it is only a matter of time.

And this was the same type of stuff posted on message boards 12 years ago that was giving me a mistaken belief that a ‘cure’ was around the corner and probably the same type of stuff wrote about 12 years before that. Just being honest - you will drive yourself crazy reading about all these trials, I know that i was 12 years ago.
 

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I think its reasonable to say that a hairloss cure will be here within 5 years. If you haven't yet look up Dr. Tsuji who has successfully multiplied human hair and transplanted it in mice. If he can commercialize his method soon that will be a cure. People will be able to get unlimited transplants until their hair is full density. Cost will probably start out very high but quickly come down as it becomes popular.

A potential true cure is something like Dr. Choi's PTD-DBM. The study about this peptide was released almost a year and a half ago. Dr. Choi likely has to find a better molecule but he was able to regrow human hair in vitro. So if he could do this on a human head it would regrow completley bald men.

There are also other companies working on hair cloning so it is only a matter of time.


There were posts like this 10 years ago as well.
 

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Did u increase on the Norwood scale while being on treatment for 12 years?
No I don’t believe so. Continued hairline recession but very slow that virtually no one else really would notice but me. Hairline never filled in other than tiny hairs caused by minoxidil that are now gone since I’ve been off minoxidil for several years. Vertex filled in compeletely within a few months of beginning the ‘big 3’ and has stayed that way.
 

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Do you have any photos of your hair then and now? (I imagine photos 12 years ago might be hard to come by and not the best quality). But I’d be very curious to see what type of hair finasteride can maintain if you don’t mind posting
 

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Do you have any photos of your hair then and now? (I imagine photos 12 years ago might be hard to come by and not the best quality). But I’d be very curious to see what type of hair finasteride can maintain if you don’t mind posting
I had a flip phone and a digital camera then. Like a lot of you, I took hundreds of pictures of my head from every angle. I have no idea where those pictures and that camera ended up and really don’t care.

For me, I was able to grow my hair out and be a character from my niece’s favorite movie this past Halloween (Kristoff), and that is good enough for me.
 

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A bit of an update - during all of this Coronavirus seclusion (and a bit before), I got bored and got serious with Minoxidil for the first time in years and it did add visible hairs to my hairline back to about where it was when I was 24 or so. Still on the same boring 1.25 mg of generic finasteride every day.

13 years later - the same three medications (Finasteride, Minoxidil, Nizoral)...perhaps the hairloss cure will be accidentally discovered in the search for the coronavirus cure haha
 

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I think its reasonable to say that a hairloss cure will be here within 5 years. If you haven't yet look up Dr. Tsuji who has successfully multiplied human hair and transplanted it in mice. If he can commercialize his method soon that will be a cure. People will be able to get unlimited transplants until their hair is full density. Cost will probably start out very high but quickly come down as it becomes popular.

A potential true cure is something like Dr. Choi's PTD-DBM. The study about this peptide was released almost a year and a half ago. Dr. Choi likely has to find a better molecule but he was able to regrow human hair in vitro. So if he could do this on a human head it would regrow completley bald men.

There are also other companies working on hair cloning so it is only a matter of time.

I was so hyped when I was reading about Choi, but it's been dead silence since then.
 
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