Adenosine products

[hairlifted]

Ok so my other thread about Shisheido's adenovital shampoo, which contains adenosine as its main ingredient, had me interested in other products containing them.

Adenosine has at least a little research into possible hair loss treatment

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1346-8138.2008.00564.x/full

denosine significantly increased the anagen hair growth rate and the thick hair rate. No side-effects were encountered during the trial. Adenosine improved hair loss in Japanese women by stimulating hair growth and by thickening hair shafts. Adenosine is useful for treating female pattern hair loss in women as well as androgenetic alopecia in men.

Since this study was done with a lotion and not shampoo, I wanted to know if there were any out there. First I found this other shampoo, Adenosil, which contains adenosine, orithine, and taurine. Not sure if those other two ingredients do anything significant but I had never heard of the brand before, its on ebay though for those interested.
http://www.ch-pharma.com/Reads.aspx?id=34

Then I ended up browsing through DS Labs products and noticed that they have hair lotions that contain adenosine in them. The hair cream is the Revita brand, and according to their site it has:ADENOSINE, PINE WOOD EXTRACT*, PREZATIDE COPPER ACETATE, MALUS DOMESTICA FRUIT CELL CULTURE EXTRACT, PANTHENOL, HYDROLYZED LUPINE PROTEIN, PIROCTONE OLAMINE.

http://www.amazon.com/DS-Laboratories-High-Performance-Thickening-Luxurious/dp/B010GUES3

Since the study I linked showed effectiveness with a lotion, I thought maybe this product would be worth looking into. Has anyone used this before? It looks like it's newish on amazon.

On an unrelated note, there are a few Polaris Lab products on ebay, namely NR-10 which contains 16% minoxidil and .01fin, wondering if that topical finasteride really works or not? It cant be bought off their site for US members..

 

[Captain Hook]

Nice to see an adenosine thread!

To answer your question, topical finasteride certainly works but not in a way that most people like, it works because it goes systemic after being applied topically, so you're better off just taking oral finasteride.

 

[Dikek]

I'm interested in adenosine, the old shiseido study give us few pics but the results were poor/moderate, my plan was to use adenosine istead of minoxidil so i could eventually interrupt the treatment without massive shed, but i'm convinced that is just a waste of money and dosn't really give minoxidil results

the old study said that it worked on thickening existing hairs but no new hairs anyway

 

[hairlifted]

What I'm doing right now is minoxidil once a day at night (cause my situation isn't dire yet), and then the Shisheido adenosine spray in the morning. Only been doing it for about 3 weeks though so nothing to report there. And still, thickening hair shafts isn't a bad thing especially if we're talking catching male pattern baldness early and not already at a higher Norwood level

 

[DFWdesperado]

What I'm doing right now is minoxidil once a day at night (cause my situation isn't dire yet), and then the Shisheido adenosine spray in the morning. Only been doing it for about 3 weeks though so nothing to report there. And still, thickening hair shafts isn't a bad thing especially if we're talking catching male pattern baldness early and not already at a higher Norwood level

Where did you get the adenosine spray from?

 

[hairlifted]

http://www.amazon.com/ADENOVITAL-Sc...TF8&qid=1442552315&sr=8-1&keywords=adenovital

Not quite sure what the difference between the adenovital and adenogen is but they both do contain adenosine. Plus that adenovital lineup has shampoo that I use a couple of times a week too.

 

[DFWdesperado]

So the "essence" is the spray?

What do you think of the shampoo so far?

 

[hairlifted]

It doesn't seem to be one that dries your hair out when you rinse it off so that's nice I guess

 

[hairlifted]

Ok so I got the Adensoil and I gotta say I like it. Not sure what the percentage of it is, but the shampoo is very mild - no lathering or drying out. On the days I'm not using Nizoral, I use this daily and sometimes twice a day and it doesn't make me itch or have that straw dry hair. I took a picture of the ingredients list for anyone interested:

Since I'm using a minoxidil brand that has 1% keto in it, I'm shelving the regenepure until I get my polaris nr-10. Says its 16% minoxidil, .1% finasteride, collegen, copper peptides, ginseng, and a few others. Anyways I like this better than the Shisheido shampoo, but like I said I'm not sure what the percentage of adenosine that's in there, might have to contact someone and find out. Shisheido is much easier to find online, and cheaper to boot, than this Adenosil stuff so who knows in the long run if I'll stick with it.

 

[hairlifted]

Ok I like this adenosine cream product. It's called Revita High Performance Texture Cream. There's two types of em, this one is 'thickening and luxurious'.

Here's the back of the bottle:
http://i.imgur.com/CL0zG7x.jpg

Here is what it looks like when applied to my hair, which is pretty long. As you can see it gives it a very thick look
http://i.imgur.com/989eQXR.jpg

 

[Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi]

I'm using Adenogen. Its the best topical i've used so far..

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http://www.amazon.com/ADENOVITAL-Sc...TF8&qid=1442552315&sr=8-1&keywords=adenovital

Not quite sure what the difference between the adenovital and adenogen is but they both do contain adenosine. Plus that adenovital lineup has shampoo that I use a couple of times a week too.

The diff. is one is shampoo, the other is "tonic"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19239555:

Adenosine upregulates the expression of vascular endothelial growth factor and fibroblast growth factor-7 in cultured dermal papilla cells. It has been shown that, in Japanese men, adenosine improves androgenetic alopecia due to the thickening of thin hair due to hair follicle miniaturization

Comparison of the efficacy of topical minoxidil 5% and adenosine 0.75%:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24183218[h=1][/h]

 

[hairlifted]

Adenovital has a spray that isn't a shampoo

 

[Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi]

Adenovital has a spray that isn't a shampoo

O yeah, right. Looks like its newer updated formula. they added some stuff:

http://www.pro.shiseido.com/haircare/adenovital.html

It basically looks like same thing. a marketing trick("new, updated", imo.)

Btw, dude- you should have this thread moved to proper forum section--Growth Stimulants

 

[hairlifted]

I'm not sure how to do that, I guess if a mod sees it they can move it. Since I had started out with a shampoo and styling product in the OP I figured it belonged here. As long as we have something about adenosine on here I'm satisfied

 

[labellavita1985]

Hey everyone, I know I've asked this on a couple of other threads, but since it seems we have some adenosine users in this thread, I'll go ahead and ask again. Have those of you using adenosine experienced shedding?

 

[hairlifted]

I mentioned in the other thread that I never had much, if at all, shedding from adenosine. I started the adenosine spray well before minoxidil and it was only until I got to use minoxidil did I notice any shedding.

edit: if you are really concerned just go for an adenosine shampoo for an adjunctive thickener. Worst case scenario is you spend money and it doesn't do much, but the adenovital shampoo was only like 18 bucks on amazon. The adenosil shampoo is harder to find a little more expensive cause its from Europe, but its very mild and doesn't lather at all, whereas the addenovital does lather up.

I posted a picture of my hair on the bottom of the first page if you wanna see what that DS Labs styling product looks like (it contains adenosine among other ingredients)

 

[Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi]

Never noticed any shed while on Adenogen..

 

[hope777]

topical finasteride certainly works but not in a way that most people like, it works because it goes systemic after being applied topically, so you're better off just taking oral finasteride.

Not necessarily agree.
The 5aR enzymes are not spread in a uniform manner across the entire body - a great amount are concentrated approximate to the hair follicles. Hence, finasteride which is applied topically may have better chance of deactivating the 5aR in the scalp whereas finasteride which is taken orally may deactivate less 5aR in the hair follicles and a greater percentage of 5aR in other regions of the body such as the prostate.

 

[CinnamonRoll]

The only type of Adenosine I've found for sale outside of a small % of a product is ATP(Adenosine Triphosphate) or AMP(Adenosine Monophosphate). I can't find Adenosine without phosphate pairings.

You can get ATP easily for very cheap
https://www.amazon.com/Nutricost-D-Ribose-Servings-Serving-Highest/dp/B00WAJU464

For $25 you'd have a life time supply for topical application.

AMP is harder to find. This is all I've found
https://www.amazon.com/MYODEN-Adenosine-Monophosphate-Weight-Supplement/dp/B00YBGTTKG
Expensive af. $45 for 750mg. I'm also not sure what % you'd need to make a topical solution. I've never seen this discussed in detail. If it's something like 2%, then this would still make several liters of solution. But if "adenosine" is to be used roughly 100% pure, then it's not going to last long at 30ml.

Because I can't find pure adenosine, I may go ahead and buy D-Ribose and just add it into my topical concoction. It's fairly doubtful it will work though.

 

[HairCook]

https://www.makingcosmetics.com/Adenosine-Beta-Cyclodextrin_p_672.html

Scroll down, not clean powder. Would be better to get a group buy going.
There are lots of companies online selling basics for cosmetics.

We should try to contact all of them and see if they could order adenosin for us.
Stupid chemical corps, would not even sell vitamins to us. Was hard enough to find a proper place in germany that sells licl to consumers.

There is also a french product with adenosine which is quite feasible. I havent gotten an answer about the % yet: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01MS6SN7A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A7L9KYWS4ZGJZ&psc=1