After 6 months, my completed hair loss theory for myself!

[Hoppi]

I had too little protein in my diet leading to a deficiency of collagen aminos leading to collagen breakdown leading to less supple, thinner and weaker collagen around the follicles (much like in an older man) leading to greater susceptibility to my body's androgens

I am supplementing with hydrolyzed collagen and getting more meat and my skin is improving, and I have jumped on Densiti (equol) and it seems very much like my hair is improving too

I know that many people on here dont agree with me, but hey free speech is good right - its good to share the outcome of 6 months research! lol

Peace out dudes,

Hoppi ^_^

 

[Archon]

 

[bigentries]

Congratulations Hoppi.

You should be doing research, really, you try so many things at the same time it is amazing you can analyze all that.

It's like you make up a theory and come to a conclusion at the same time, fascinating indeed.

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[Hoppi]

Hehe yes Seaback I know my views on this have changed but thats because I am always learning. The thing about low T and the effects of estrogen I have not forgotten, but it gave way for newer, more considered and wiser theories. Now, of course I could STILL be wrong, but my skin is improving and my scalp feels so much better - I have little baby hairs sprouting all over it under my long hair! lol, at least thats what I can feel its too early to be certain, but of course at this point i am feeling quite confident, and very excited about the possibility of my hair recovering

And actually at the moment I am focusing on only 2 things - DHT, and collagen

 

[s.a.f]

$100 says he comes back in a months time saying its something else and he's getting acne from too much meat or some other bollocks like that. :hump:

 

[Hoppi]

You have to bear in mind though that as well as my focus on what I believe was my trigger, I am also very keen on equol, and a few other things as ways of limiting the damage of DHT. So my eggs aren't all in one basket anyway

 

[FSHGLD]

I think it's cool that you come up with theories like that, but have you ever studied science? A-level biology? Do you have a degree?

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

Keep in mind that an increase in meat consumption normally means a decrease in calorie consumption from at least 1 other source. Have you been keeping track of the types of foods (and their contributing nutrients) that you have been eating less of during this period of possible new growth?

 

[Hoppi]

Keep in mind that an increase in meat consumption normally means a decrease in calorie consumption from at least 1 other source. Have you been keeping track of the types of foods (and their contributing nutrients) that you have been eating less of during this period of possible new growth?

well, the new growth (which I am 95% certain of, my scalp feels better than it has for a long time and feels very "fuzzy" all over underneath my hair) I put down to... #1 probability is the equol. #2 is the hydrolyzed collagen I have been taking (coupled with the taurine). and #3 is abstaining from sex and masturbation

I don't really know what did it.. to be honest I don't care that much lol, this is the regimen I will be using for the foreseeable future

My skin is much tougher than it was too and it is steadily improving from the inside out.

There is more meat and far less gluten in my diet but.. I am suspecting it's the hydrolyzed collagen that is doing it. The dominance of gluten and carbs in my diet when my skin first turned rubbish was faaaiirrly shocking, my friend who studies Health and Fitness actually commented on how poor my diet was at the time lol (before my skin and hair problems started).

And FSHGLD... no. lol

I am just a very determined guy who loves his hair very much, and does have a habit of going for things regardless of whether they are mainstream or not! I have studied biology but only to a-level, and am now returning to Uni in a month to continue Anthropology, which of course has limited connection to Biology or Medicine

I just.. get VERY determined I suppose!

I hope I was right about all this, and to be honest I'm not quite sure why I'm trying to make myself look good for thinking of stuff - the protein > collagen > hair loss thing was me but the equol regimen is courtesy of Mr Eric Murphy! hehe

Hoppi

 

[bigentries]

I don't really know what did it.. to be honest I don't care that much lol

Research my ***, you are just a troll making fun of bald people.

I don't care if a mod gets offended, but you should be banned.

Hair loss is a real emotional issue for many people who try to get some help around here, and what do they get? your stupids posts and the ones of your little friends who back you up.

The thing that saddens me is that a kid with real hair loss believes your BS posts and starts one of your many "alternative" treatments when they should be sticking to the ones that are effective.

A bald person trying "alternative" treatments is a sad thing to observe, an idiot with no hair loss praising quackery is just evil

 

[Hoppi]

what unfounded nonsense! lol

 

[G k]

what unfounded nonsense! lol

Hoppi I spend the first years of my hairloss thinking it was "growing back".

It always looks like it is "growing back" because there are always new hairs sprouting up. Hair does not simply "fall out" as part of male pattern baldness. It goes through cycles and can be hard to judge when it is growing back.

"Fuzzy" would be consistent with male pattern baldness. If you feel solid pricks of hair coming in, like you would on finasteride, then you are regrowing. Also, shedding goes through cycles, and your scalp will feel better at some points.

You haven't figured anything out, and as time goes by and your hair falls out, you will realize that more desperate people than you have sought a cure, and there is nothing but finasteride and minoxidil at this point.

This isn't weird science, and you aren't a teen genius who will find something that major pharmeceutical giants overlooked. Nor will your summon a hot babe incarnation with your computer(so stop that experiment while you are ahead)

 

[Hoppi]

Sorry, fuzz was a sloppy word - they are mostly prickly, like strong, healthy new hairs all over my scalp forming like, a whole new layer of hair. They seemed to start at the back about 4 days ago (where my male pattern baldness isnt as bad) and gradually cover more moving forwards and now they are all over! However, the real answers will come over the next few hair washes (amount of shedding), and the development of my hairline, although I will am using some topicals on it (just the hairline) to give it a helping hand!

 

[G k]

Sorry, fuzz was a sloppy word - they are mostly prickly, like strong, healthy new hairs all over my scalp forming like, a whole new layer of hair. They seemed to start at the back about 4 days ago (where my male pattern baldness isnt as bad) and gradually cover more moving forwards and now they are all over! However, the real answers will come over the next few hair washes (amount of shedding), and the development of my hairline, although I will am using some topicals on it (just the hairline) to give it a helping hand!

Well if you are using rogaine that is what is doing it. I had major regrowth with rogaine...Unbelievable growth. Then after a year or two it wore off.

Anyway good luck with your regimen. Sorry for poking fun, and forgive me if I do it again in the future :innocent:

 

[mpbsux20]

Hoppi sorry if I come across as being rude but you seem to be confused man.Initially I thought you were onto something with some of your theories even though many them didn't have scientific backing but now you are just hopping from plan to another.

If at all you do have male pattern baldness then stop wasting your time on all this and stick to some proven treatments.Hell Nizoral alone would do you a world of good than all these other concoctions you have been talking about.

A few years ago when I took some Multivitamins,I felt like I was growing back some hair but it never actually did.Right now I feel your eyes are playing tricks with you and you feel your plan is working.

 

[Hoppi]

I'm not using any minoxidil-based products

I think it's very hard to tell at this early stage. I'm giving it a bit longer now to see what happens. My skin improvements are definite, but my hair.. it's so early, and to be honest if there is improvement it's most likely the Densiti doing it and not the improving collagen.

This is the first regimen I have had the confidence to stick to for a prolonged period in the whole time I have been tackling this - time will tell

 

[Petchsky]

Has anyone reported success with Densiti? or is it a new product?

 

[Fundi]

Kind of related i.e. protein

I've been a vegetarian since I was 5. I've noticed at pics of me when I was 15, my hair looked dry and limp. First noticed hairloss at 17, despite no serious issue with it in my family.

I fully know that my hair is a result of male pattern baldness, but do you think lack of protein can accelerate the matter, given that hair is made of protein and I don't even eat Quorn?

 

[Hoppi]

Well, you see I connect the lack of protein to the sudden collagen and muscle degradation I had around August last year. I'm not certain, but it seems the most probable explanation at the moment.

Then, I connect that to my hair because collagen is very commonly connected to male pattern baldness, much of the health of the follicles (particularly in the face of DHT) seems to be determined by the circulation and collagen quality and thickness they receive. Good protein is needed for the correct aminos to maintain collagen and muscle (as well as other things of course).

Have you had skin changes Fundi?

And Petchsky, a fair few people have reported success of some degree, a significant number seem to have reported good success (shedding stopping, mild regrowth, etc). I have high hopes for equol in general, I think it's amazing stuff.

 

[G k]

Then, I connect that to my hair because collagen is very commonly connected to male pattern baldness, much of the health of the follicles (particularly in the face of DHT) seems to be determined by the circulation and collagen quality and thickness they receive. Good protein is needed for the correct aminos to maintain collagen and muscle (as well as other things of course).

Just so you know, people on finasteride suffer from lowered collagen synthesis because of the drug, but they still regrow hair.

Make of that what you want.