ALPECIN after shampoo liquid and MINOXIDIL ( contrariety )

[testohate]

hey friends

some study show , there is contrariety between Topicaly use zink and Minoxidil , for example : advised don't use Minoxidil Whit H&S PTZ shampoo .
anyway
ALPECIN after shampoo liquid who i use it , has a few zink in formula

this product who has zink and minoxidil 5% have contrariety ?

really ?

i use ALPECIN after shampoo liquid every other day and use minox5% 2x a day

tanks

 

[testohate]

HairLossTalk.com , radio , SE-freak and .... where are you ?

SE-freak do you really love me ?

i think nizoral is a big lie

 

[testohate]

Hallo
thank you for your e-mail.
We don't have made studies about the use of Alpecin After Shampoo
Liquid combined with pharmaceutical products containing minoxidil.
The Zink-Content in After Shampoo Liquid is much lower than in a
shampoo containing 1% Zn-Pyrithione.
Although we don't think that there should result bigger problems, we
don't recommend the simultaneous use of Alpecin After Shampoo Liquid and
Minoxidil.

We advise Alpecin Coffein- Shampoo C1 combined with Alpecin After
Shampoo Liquid.
For more informations
http://www.alpecin.com/en/hair-loss/shampoo/c1.php

Kind Regards
Mit freundlichen Grüكen
DR. KURT WOLFF GMBH & CO KG
Produktentwicklung (R&D)
Dr. Bernhard Kuhtz
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finaly
stop useing Alpecin After Shampoo
Liquid coz i am useing MINOXIDIL5%

 

[SE-freak]

SE-freak do you really love me ?

Of course I do testo, I too think you should not risk it. Minoxidil's growth potential is surely much greater than caffeine's.

You could try adding caffeine tabs in your regular shampoo bottle. Hair_tomorrow is currently giving it a shot.

 

[Zim]

SE-freak do you really love me ?

Of course I do testo, I too think you should not risk it. Minoxidil's growth potential is surely much greater than caffeine's.

You could try adding caffeine tabs in your regular shampoo bottle. Hair_tomorrow is currently giving it a shot.

I would rather add caffeine tabs to my minoxidil and am gonna do that soon. Im currently using the Alpecin shampoo, nice stuff.

Btw that baby avatar scares me.

 

[hair_tomorrow]

SE-freak do you really love me ?

Of course I do testo, I too think you should not risk it. Minoxidil's growth potential is surely much greater than caffeine's.

You could try adding caffeine tabs in your regular shampoo bottle. Hair_tomorrow is currently giving it a shot.

I would rather add caffeine tabs to my minoxidil and am gonna do that soon. Im currently using the Alpecin shampoo, nice stuff.

Btw that baby avatar scares me.

That was my first thought too - adding caffeine to my ozbrew. Then I got concerned about the % of concentration and the "leaving it on" aspect versus the "apply and rinse out" aspect.

So - just to be on the safe side, I caffeineted my shampoo and ACV instead. The shampoos I might leave on for 5 - 10 minutes before rinsing out, and the ACV for 1 minute.

 

[Red Rose]

Bumpingup the Alpecin thread.

Anyone using this stuff?

BTW for the DIY'ers here is a useful link (transcript of a couple of emails between a poster called Chrome from HLH.com and Prof. Elsner who carried out the caffeine trials vis a vis hairloss) about the amount of caffeine you should or should not be adding to your own solutions, which I attach for your infomation:-

The use of freshly brewed coffee is not really recommmendable, because:

1.....caffeine in coffee is not dermally bioavailable as it is in the " Alpecin After Shampoo Liquid".
2.....you need for a good efficacy a sophisticated formula of synergistic compounds as they are in
.......the "Liquid".
3.....in coffee you have a lot of residues of the roasting process, that are regarded to have a very bad skin
.......tolerance.
4.....There may the risk of skin irritation, if you have permanent contact of coffee on the skin. The "After
.......Shampoo Liquid" contains highly purified caffeine with a very good skin tolerance.

I hope, this information is helpful for you.

Best regards

Dr. Adolf Klenk
director F&E
A L C I N A C O S M E T I C
DR. KURT WOLFF GMBH & CO KG
Stadtheider Strasse 34
33609 Bielefeld
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Hello

Unfortunately we don't have neither an Englisch abstract nor a summary. We are just going to prepare it.
In January we're going to prepare a scientific paper in a medical journal.

3% caffeine in a lotion is too much. Caffeine penetrates very quickly through the skin. So you can calculate that a 3% leave-on Lotion brings up to 6 cups of coffee into the body. This dosage may be a problem for caffeine-sensitive consumers.

In germany we have a recommendation of maximum 1% caffeine in cosmetics.

On the other hand we found in our studies, that in the hair follicle there may occur an overboost of energy, that could be toxic to the hair follicle. In this case you can find suppressive effects not stimulative effects.

The concentration of caffeine in the "Alpecin After Shampoo Liquid" is 0.2%.
The test concentration in jena has been much smaller, because in thehair-organ-cultur-modell HOCM there is no penetration barrier as it is innormal skin.

Dr. Adolf Klenk
director F&E
A L C I N A C O S M E T I C
DR. KURT WOLFF GMBH & CO KG
Stadtheider Strasse 34
33609 Bielefeld

 

[THFC]

hey for the guy using alpecin after shamppo liquid...using it once everyday isnt going to do anything...the caffeine deposits itsself on the follicle for 24 hours and protects the hair...so u using it once every 48 hours isnt really going to help..read the FAQ on their website

 

[testohate]

dear friends

i wnat to use Alpecin Coffein- Shampoo C1 5 x in a week
i wash my hair every day
2 x week i use Nizoral 2% and other days yves rocher ( anti chute )
but i want to use
2 x week i use T/gel
3 x weel i want to use Alpecin Coffein- Shampoo C1

Alpecin Coffein- Shampoo C1 contains " Zinc PCA " and coffein and vitamin B5 & ....

what 's your opinion

1- 3 x week use Alpecin Coffein- Shampoo C1 that has zinc , don't have any problem for me ? ( i have use minoxidil 5% 2 x day ) topicaly zinc and minoxidil don,t have problem ?

2- finaly pls one person tell me , is T/Gel shampoo , daily use or not ?

tank so

 

[clau]

Re: ALPECIN after shampoo liquid and MINOXIDIL ( contrariety

hey friends

some study show , there is contrariety between Topicaly use zink and Minoxidil , for example : advised don't use Minoxidil Whit H&S PTZ shampoo .
anyway
ALPECIN after shampoo liquid who i use it , has a few zink in formula

this product who has zink and minoxidil 5% have contrariety ?

really ?

i use ALPECIN after shampoo liquid every other day and use minox5% 2x a day

tanks

where did you get information regarding incompatibility problems between zinc and minoxidil?

thanks

 

[Dannie]

Study: Zinc versus Minoxidil

New studies over shed shampoos or - solutions, the antimykotische or
antibacterial active substances contained, showed a potential use for that
Hair growth. In 6 a monatigen double-blind study with 200 patients those became
Effectiveness compared of

* a 1% zinc Pyrithion shampoo
* 5% Minoxidil - a solution (twice daily angewandet),
* a placebo shampoo and
* a combination of the 1% Pyrithion zinc shampoo and the 5% Minoxidil solution.


Two hundred recover men at the age between 18 and 49 years, the Hamilton Norwood
III vertices or IV hair loss showed, were included. Hair countings, that
Effectiveness measure, became by fiber-optic microscopy and one
computer-assisted, manual hair counting method receive. Secondary mass that
Estimates of both hair diameter and global closed effectiveness
Evaluations of the improvement concerning hair growth of patients and physicians.
Latter are based on photographs of the scalp.

Results: The hair counting results showed a significant (P < 0.05) increase
in visible hair for the 1% Pyrithion zinc shampoo, the 5% Minoxidil solution and those
Group of combination treatments compared to the placebo after 9 weeks treatment.

The relative increase of the hair counting for the 1% pyrithione zinc shampoo was something
less than half of the Minoxidil solution and became during the 26
Week treatment period maintain. The combination of 5% did not possess an advantage
Minoxidil solution and that 1% Pyrithione zinc shampoo. A small increase of the
Hair diameter one observed at the week 17 for the Minoxidil groups of treatments.
Evaluations of the global improvements of patients and physicians showed the use of
5% Minoxidil. The use of the used zinc shampoo became only with the examiners
seen.


Source:

Authors: Berger R-S; Fu JL; Smiles KA; Turner CB; Fast CBM; Werchowski km; Lammers
Km

Title: The effects OF minoxidil, 1% pyrithione zinc and A combi nation OF both on hair density: A randomized control LED trial.

In: The British journal OF dermatology; VOLUME: 149 (2); 354-62


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