amino acid profiles of various protein sources

[CCS]

Since arginine is important for fighting hair loss, I'm searching for good natural sources. If I'm taking 1-3 grams of Arginine, and eating 100g or protein, that is not a whole lot of difference in arginine. Maybe changing the protein source will do it too. Here are some web pages I found:

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http://home.att.net/~wdcusick/protein.html
Sorry about the formatting. You can still see that arginine (I think that is the Arg) is the first one. I'm surprised Soy did not have any. Fish were also low, except tuna. It all seems pretty random. Anyone want to tell us if they think that site is a reliable source?

Food source (100 g. each) contains the following Amino Acids Arg Cys His Iso Leu Lys Met Phe Thr Try Tyr Val
Chicken 1378 311 655 1125 1653 1765 591 899 922 257 732 1100
Turkey 1979 308 845 1409 2184 2557 790 1100 1227 311 1066 1464
Beef - - - 1329 2081 2220 631 1045 1122 297 - 1411
Lamb - - - 1068 1595 1667 494 837 943 267 - 1015
Pork - - - 1510 2164 2414 733 1157 1364 382 - 1529
Soybeans - - - 649 935 759 165 594 423 165 - 638
Tuna 1518 - 1619 1316 2024 2327 810 1012 1214 - 303 1417
Herring (Atl) - - - 882 1315 1522 502 640 761 173 - 934
Herring (Pac) - - - 892 1312 1522 508 648 752 175 - 928

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This site says that soy does have a lot of arginine, a contradiction.
http://www.afpafitness.com/Whichprotein ... rginine%22

 

[Rage]

Just buy l-arginine in a pill!

 

[CCS]

it is important when looking for arginine sources to remember that nutritionists are big liars.

they will tell you that beef is a big source of arginine, just because it has a lot of protein, which has arginine it it. When getting more arginine for hair growth, I think our goal is to get a higher ratio of arginine to other amino acids. Otherwise there would be no need to buy supplements. Body builders would not supplement with glutamine either. They would just eat more protein total.

I really hate nutrition books. they say leaf green veggies are a good source of calcium, just because they have calcium in them. The fact is a cup of greens has only 2% as much as you need for a day. Can you eat 50 cups of leafy green veggies in a day?

So when surfing the net to find good supplements, you need to look for very specific facts, and not just believe what you are told on the label or what a nutrition book tells you.

If you want glutamine that is peptide bonded for good absorption, every source of natural protein is peptide bonded, and has glutamine in it in some small quantity. so many pills that have "peptide bonded glutamine or arginine" just have regular protein powder in them, and you can't sue them because they are not lying. So only buy the stuff that is very specific and can be sued if they are lying.

 

[CCS]

Egg/Peanut Butter

Calories: 74/94
Phenylalanine 0.339g/0.209g
Valine 0.428g/0.169g
Tryptophan 0.277g/0.138g
Isoleucine 0.335g/0.142g
Methionine 0.190g/0.049g
Histidine 0.154g/0.102g
Arginine 0.409g/0.483g
Lysine 0.455g/0.145g
Leucine 0.541g/0.262g

http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com ... otein.html

 

[CCS]

I heard that L -amino acids are not absorbed well in the intestine, not nearly as well as di and tri peptides.


i think the reason bad products are sold is they usually are cheaper. And if many people don't know they are bad, that makes them even cheaper, and the less produced good products more expensive. Big companies selling stuff in bulk can make stuff cheaper. That is why white sugar and while flower are cheaper than their unprocessed counterparts. Hydrogenated stuff is cheaper because it does not spoil, so it is different.

But big companies sell what makes money, not what is healthy. Once 90% of the population blindly goes for a product they think is good or cheap, it is too expensive to make the good stuff, or the price just goes way up.

Seeded grapes are healthier than seedless, but you can't even buy seeded grapes now because the masses don't want them. the stores don't want to spend extra ordering time to have seeded grapes for the 5% of health conscious people.

Most people would rather be told that the food they eat is healthy than research it and go against the streem.

 

[Bryan]

Since arginine is important for fighting hair loss, I'm searching for good natural sources. If I'm taking 1-3 grams of Arginine, and eating 100g or protein, that is not a whole lot of difference in arginine.

No, but I think the main idea is to be able to take more modest levels of the pure amino acid in between meals, when there won't be competition with other amino acids from normal protein sources.

Bryan

 

[CCS]

yeah, rage, that should interest you, you topical finasteride guy you.

 

[So]

Why is Argininine important for fighting hair loss?

What is its roll?

 

[CCS]

http://www.drproctor.com, look under "science stuff", then "why you might want to supplement with arginine."

Thanks bryan. My goal is to eat every 3 hours, but I'll fit it in somewhere. At the very least I'll get it before I go to bed.

 

[Harie]

By the way, 100g of protein/day isn't that much. You said something about wanting to be fit, most fitness gurus advocate anywhere between 0.8g/lb to 2g/lb of protein. 1G is what most fitness buffs shoot for. 1G of protein/lb should give you the arginine you're looking for. The added protein is also good for your hair.

 

[CCS]

Do I just need more arginine, or do I need a higher ratio of arginine to other amino acids to help my hair? If the total amount is all that matters, I can easily get that from beans, and cheaply too, though I'd have more calories to burn.

Bryan, does Dr Proctor specify anywhere if I just need more arginine or if I need a higher ratio of arginine to other amino acids? If the former is true, then the nutricianists were not lying when they said beaf is a good source of arginine.

 

[CCS]

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm

"When it comes to the amounts of glutamine, soy beats whey hands down. For every 100 grams of protein, whey has 20.1 grams of BCAAs and 4.9 grams of glutamine. Maybe to your surprise, soy has 18.1 grams of BCAAs and a whopping 10.5 grams of glutamine! Again, we have been lied to and deceived."

other sites say soy has 3x as much arginine too. I have a lot of whey, so I'll keep using some, but I'm going to make soy my main protein powder. I'll eat mackerel with it to take care of the phitic acid.

 

[Harie]

"Soy protein does not have the nitrogen retaining, anti catabiloc, muscle building abilities of proteins such as whey, whole egg, red meat, etc."

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/healt ... -use-2.htm

Unless you don't care about muscle mass, you should also use another kind of protein powder too. The article above is very good BTW.