Androgenetic Alopecia Pathway Update and Possible Cure

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Here is an update to the androgenetic alopecia pathway and information on important topics for hair growth. I will include information about products and a possible cure.


1)))Androgen receptors are the main key. The factors that act on them, such as DHT and other androgens kick starts the alopecia pathway.
GSK3-beta is involved in androgen receptor nuclear binding. It is also involved with stem cell differentiation (causes it), inhibits stem cell proliferation and the canonical wnt/beta catenin pathway. It has been shown in prostate cells that LITHIUM CHLORIDE a gsk3-b inhibitor, inhibits the nuclear binding of the androgen receptor even if it is bound to DHT. So, this means no transcription or translation of the androgen receptor= cessation of androgenetic alopecia.


Creating a topical gsk3-b is key. Lithium chloride, lithium succinate (used in seborrheic dermatitis), and lithium orotate are options. However, be careful as not all gsk3-b inhibitors have to same action on the androgen receptor.


2))) Androgen receptors create a cascade of growth inhibitors like TGF-beta to cause cell death and IL-6 expression in the hair follicle.
IL-6, Stem Cell factor (in follicle), and CD34+ progenitor cells(follicle) cause the differentiation of CD34 cells into mast cells. This is my theory as to what is happening to the CD34+ cells and why there is a depletion of them. Mast Cells are being produced and the types being produced are large, filled with ILs, chymase (involed with atherosclerosis/fibrosis), and histamine. This is important to understand the itching, tingling, burning, and inflammation on the scalp. The yeast on the scalp is reacting to the change of fatty acids produced by sebaceous gland hyperplasia (I will explain this later). This causes the allergen reaction, IgE activation of these mast cells, and the eventual cascade of microinflammation involving lymphocytes(th2), basophiles, and eosinophils. This will a create a vicious PGD2 cycle, miniaturization, and fibrosis.


3))) Mast cells and lymphocyte created PGD2. This is due to the DHT/androgen receptor IL-6 production. These cells also produce various ILs. IL-6 is one of them that cause the microinflammation around the follicle which leads to eventual miniaturization and possible death. Hematopoietic PGD2 is produced by these cells. H-PGD2 causes a gene called NRF2 to activate. NRF2 causes sebaceous gland hyperplasia and hair follicle regression via hyperkeratosis (why I believe the hair follicle miniaturizes and can, eventually, die). TGF-beta via androgen receptor/DHT causes NRF2 activation.


NRF2 is extremely important. It is an anti-inflammatory activator and its product is LIPOCALIN PGD2 SYNTHASE (L-PGD2s). Whenever nrf2 is exposed to any type of pgd2, it will keep producing L-PGD2S, hence the vicious PGD2 cycle. What happens when Prostaglandin H2 from COX2 is converted to L-PGD2? It eventually produces 15D-PGJ2.



15D-PGJ2 is a PPAR GAMMA receptor agonist. What does PPAR GAMMA do? It is for ANTI TUMOR protection. Interestingly it can cause anti inflammation or inflammation. PPAR GAMMA still needs to be studied more, however from research I found out that 15D-PGJ2 inhibits the proliferation of CD200.


CD200 is one the the two type of progenitor cells that are lacking in balding hairs. It is involved with self protection, causing production of IL10 and IL12 to down regulate inflammation against the host (hair). follicle) and involved with melanocytes (low cd200 positively correlated with graying hair). My theory is that PPAR gamma has anti tumor effects and that the hair follicle is being viewed as a tumor, hence the depletion of CD200 in order to removed the tumor(hair). PPAR gamma is needed in order to prevent scarring alopecia as it maintains functional stem cell compartment. Like I said, PPAR gamma in studies have been shown to causes inflammation or the opposite probably due to which ligand /receptor is activated and needs to be studied more.
Stem cell factor is decreased in androgenetic alopecia, so a decrease in all progenitor cells and loss of CD34 (mast cells) and CD200 (15D PGJ/ppar gamma)


Inflammation is not all bad. Certain types of inflammatory processes are needed for hair growth, but they need to be done in a certain time and manner which is not being allowed in androgenentic alopecia. This topical should be discussed further.


Here is some information of products used for hair loss:


Lithium: This should be the number one used topical for all hair loss suffers. It inhibits GSK3 beta, so it should totally inhibit the androgen receptor; EVEN IF DHT IS ATTACHED! It increases B-catenin and the wnt canonical pathway by inhibiting gsk3 beta, so it can increase anagen in hairs. It also inhibits TGF-beta which causes hair loss.


Minoxidil: It is a PGH1 synthase activator. This means more prostaglandins production. It will cause an onset of inflammation due PGE2 causing enhanced function of IgE on mast cells and increase IL-6 in those cells. Also, don’t forget PGD2 and other products from cox2 that cause inflammation. Hence, the initial shed using minoxidil and it can cause thinning of existing hair (inflammation,pgd2 increase). However, due to its ability to create capillaries in dermal papilla and E2 increase, it causes regrowth of hairs and minoxidil dependent growth of hair by being a canonical wnt pathway weak agonist.


Azelaic Acid: It decreases p53 and p21 causing a decrease in apoptosis. It decreases nf kappab which is overexpressed in hair loss but is needed for anagen. It also is an anti inflammatory by apparently activating ppar gamma which explains why it is used for skin lightening (decrease melanocyes due to a decrease of CD200). PPAR gamma plus p53 causes apoptosis, hence Azelaic acid is anti-apoptotic. Also, combined with high levels of vitamin b6, it decreases DHT production.


Retinoic Acid (tretinoin, all trans retinoic acid): It can possibly cause skin cancer and this is good for hair generation. Remember that hair is being targeted as a tumor/cancer even though it is not, so we need something that can reverse/balance that anti tumor effect and RA is that something. RA inhibits canonical wnt pathway(bad for hair anagen) via tcf2 but upregulated noncanonical wnt pathway. This is good for stem cell generation. RA also inhibits NRF2 (Decrease L-PGD2s and L-PGD2). RA also activates the ERK2 pathway which is different than the ERK1 pathway. ERK2 is involved with cell angiogenesis and ERK1 is involved with apoptosis.
[h=1]Fenugreek contains Trigonelline and it inhibits NRF2 to downregulated lipocalin pgd2s and l pgd2 and does not effect wnt pathway.[/h] Luetolin inhibits NRF2 but also inhibits the canonical wnt pathway.


Hypoxia causes NRF2 inhibition: Neogenic and ciclopirox


Some information about signaling:


The JAK STAT pathway is key in regulating hair loss. There is a report that a JAK STAT inhibitor was used on a patient with alopecia totalis and all his hair grew back. We know that Androgenetic Alopecia and Alopecia Areata/Totalis are different, but are similar in their pathways.
IL-6 is the problem with Androgentic Alopecia that causes inflammation, hair thinning, fibrosis, and a pathway that leads to NRF2/PGD2. IL-6 is involved with the jak stat pathway, particularly with stat3. If we can inhibit STAT3, we can solve the IL-6 problem. This should shut down the IL-6 mast cell instigation of microinflammation around the hair follicle. There are natural and synthetic JAK STAT inhibitors available. I found one topical that should contain a stat3 inhibitor, but I will not dicuss the product so that we can focus on other important matter written here and I don’t want to have to defend myself from being called a shill.


The possible cure:


We first need to realize that if the hair follicle is not there (dead) nothing will grow in its place except for transplanted hair. Second, we need to affirm that fibrosis of the hair follicle is most likely present and is the reason why hair regrowth will be difficult. This is why there needs to be in place a new wounding method. My idea is a non roller, but stamp like process that has needles about the fourth of the width of current dermarollers that go 3-4mm deep. Small width micro wounds that go deep enough to break up the fibrotic plaque, heal, and protect existing hair follicles as much as possible. I do not recommend doing this by yourself. Having a trained physician do this would be ideal.


From this article: http://www.nature.com/ncb/journal/v13/n7/full/ncb2267.html

What I understood from it is that stem cell regeneration is possible. The process involves tcf3 and gsk-3 inhibition. We already have a way to do both. Retinoic Acid (tretinoin) creates tcf3 and lithium OR Estradiol is a gsk-3 inhibitor. These two used together in theory should regenerated stem cells and cause the regrowth of hair. I could be completely right or wrong on this, PLEASE DISCUSS!!!!


About the Big 3:


Minoxidil from what I described above causes inflammation, exacerbates andogenetic alopecia (Increase various PGs), but has its own unique pathway to grow hair; which is why hairs become minoxidil dependent. Finasteride/Dutasteride inhibits 5 alpha reductase and reduce DHT, but our bodies are adaptive. Androgen receptors will become more sensitive/increase with time and DHT can be produced by other pathways such as hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzymes. Other androgens can cause DHT like effects, for example in prostate cancer; and I don’t see why this can’t be true for hair as well. As for ketoconazole, it is good to get rid of the inflammation that scalp yeast causes that can cause the onset of androgenetic alopecia. However once that cascade starts, it will not stop it (PGD2 vicious cycle). Also, it is a NRF2 (PGD2) agonist. This is why I believe some people notice hair becoming straw like/thin.


I am not against the Big 3. The reason all three work together well is because the pros outweigh the cons. However, in time it will fail.


Please discuss and add to this. There are too many references for me to put up.
 

frenchy

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Thx for the info, never heard about lithium tho
 

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Sounds good to me but I wish someone would come out with a daily routine for this. For example, Monday apply this and that two times a day, this many milligrams. The way to mix it with vehicles and general best practices. This is mainly theory and we need the practice. I am never fond of seeing something produce cancer in any way, but it does make some sense.
 

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15D-PGJ2 is a PPAR GAMMA receptor agonist. What does PPAR GAMMA do? It is for ANTI TUMOR protection. Interestingly it can cause anti inflammation or inflammation. PPAR GAMMA still needs to be studied more, however from research I found out that 15D-PGJ2 inhibits the proliferation of CD200.


CD200 is one the the two type of progenitor cells that are lacking in balding hairs. It is involved with self protection, causing production of IL10 and IL12 to down regulate inflammation against the host (hair). follicle) and involved with melanocytes (low cd200 positively correlated with graying hair). My theory is that PPAR gamma has anti tumor effects and that the hair follicle is being viewed as a tumor, hence the depletion of CD200 in order to removed the tumor(hair). PPAR gamma is needed in order to prevent scarring alopecia as it maintains functional stem cell compartment. Like I said, PPAR gamma in studies have been shown to causes inflammation or the opposite probably due to which ligand /receptor is activated and needs to be studied more.
Stem cell factor is decreased in androgenetic alopecia, so a decrease in all progenitor cells and loss of CD34 (mast cells) and CD200 (15D PGJ/ppar gamma)

Tofacitinib, aka Xeljanz... I think I remember reading about it promoting CD200. This in combination with other stuff could work wonders. I also think I read somewhere that it suppresses DKK1.

The JAK STAT pathway is key in regulating hair loss. There is a report that a JAK STAT inhibitor was used on a patient with alopecia totalis and all his hair grew back. We know that Androgenetic Alopecia and Alopecia Areata/Totalis are different, but are similar in their pathways.
IL-6 is the problem with Androgentic Alopecia that causes inflammation, hair thinning, fibrosis, and a pathway that leads to NRF2/PGD2. IL-6 is involved with the jak stat pathway, particularly with stat3. If we can inhibit STAT3, we can solve the IL-6 problem. This should shut down the IL-6 mast cell instigation of microinflammation around the hair follicle. There are natural and synthetic JAK STAT inhibitors available. I found one topical that should contain a stat3 inhibitor, but I will not dicuss the product so that we can focus on other important matter written here and I don’t want to have to defend myself from being called a shill.

This would be Tofacitinib ;)

And I do think it could produce some serious results against Androgentic Alopecia... too bad not a single doctor has gotten off his/her *** to do a case study. Fvcking aggravating as hell.
 

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Someone explain this as it's confusing me :

http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/S0923-1811(98)00048-6/abstract

Minoxidil increases 17β-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase and 5α-reductase activity of cultured human dermal papilla cells from balding scalp


But wouldn't both these enzymes result in MORE T and DHT in the scalp? minoxidil you confuse me!

Edit: Oh you actually wrote in the OP that Minoxidil exacerbates male pattern baldness but then has it's own way of growing hair too. Interesting.
 

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Great post op. I agree with most of what you stated. I think advances will really start to roll in once we are able to test vast arrays of potential drugs/ therapies using lab grown and sustained follicles. There is a german group who are close to completing this goal.
 

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First off, really great post. You did an awesome job.

Now some notes from my side: I also thought that fibrosis squeezes follicles and somehow hinders them operating correctly. Not so sure about this anymore since the findings which showed that the whole apoptosis/inflammation cascade also affects DSC and DP cells which are killed by it. As DP cells are the hair producer, I wouldn't say that fibrosis in itself is the perpretrator here. Maybe it's a contributing factor. But the loss of DP cells plays a bigger role, I personally think.

Regarding the wounding methods: The reason why wounding will have some limited effect is not, as some speculated, because of tissue regrowth or regeneration from scratch, but probably due to growth factor release as the body's response to trauma (or its a cause of both). Same reason why well-prepared PRP works. This trauma provides the body with substances that human adults usually lack, like FGF and VEGF. That being said, as the primary beneficial effect of wounding seems to be the release of such growth factors - or so I think - then PRP in conjunction with your proposal could make a lot of sense. But only if its well prepared, i.e. high platelet concentration and proper activation.
 

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2))) Androgen receptors create a cascade of growth inhibitors like TGF-beta to cause cell death and IL-6 expression in the hair follicle.
IL-6, Stem Cell factor (in follicle), and CD34+ progenitor cells(follicle) cause the differentiation of CD34 cells into mast cells
. This is my theory as to what is happening to the CD34+ cells and why there is a depletion of them. Mast Cells are being produced and the types being produced are large, filled with ILs, chymase (involed with atherosclerosis/fibrosis), and histamine. This is important to understand the itching, tingling, burning, and inflammation on the scalp. The yeast on the scalp is reacting to the change of fatty acids produced by sebaceous gland hyperplasia (I will explain this later). This causes the allergen reaction, IgE activation of these mast cells, and the eventual cascade of microinflammation involving lymphocytes(th2), basophiles, and eosinophils. This will a create a vicious PGD2 cycle, miniaturization, and fibrosis.

So, according to your theory AR/Androgen complex after binding to nucleus of the cell activates certain androgen genes and pathways which in turn cause known or unknown cascade effects of various growth inhibitors?

These inhibitors (TGF-beta or whatever) are produced only locally in hair follicles? Or maybe in tissue near hair follicles in close proximity of hair root ?



3))) Mast cells and lymphocyte created PGD2. This is due to the DHT/androgen receptor IL-6 production. These cells also produce various ILs. IL-6 is one of them that cause the microinflammation around the follicle which leads to eventual miniaturization and possible death

Is there any possibility, microinflammation in affected tissue caused by mast cell overproduction, can cause thinning and miniaturisation of "healthy hair follicles", for example those transplanted from donor zone, which are not susceptible to DHT as internal cause of miniaturisation - .

I've always wondered can various growth inhibitors spill over and cause degradation of neighbouring follicles? If some hair follicles extracted from donor zone(and thus DHT resistant) are transplanted near balding follicles. Can growth inhibitors produced in a balding follicles affect those "healthy follicles"?
 

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makes me wonder a bit about the connection of alopecia areata and androgenetic alopecia.

I remember reading that Alopecia Areata is related to autoimmune response. A quick read on JAK-STAT receptor pulled up this interesting line:
Many JAK-STAT pathways are expressed in white blood cells, and are therefore involved in regulation of the immune system.
 

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HELLOUSER - weren't you waiting for these products to come through through customs. And are you planning to apply these topically? if so, how with which vehicle ?

I can get my hands on These products too
 

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HELLOUSER - weren't you waiting for these products to come through through customs. And are you planning to apply these topically? if so, how with which vehicle ?

I can get my hands on These products too

Tofacitinib yes, been waiting on it for two months. Canada customs seized it and sent it out to a lab for testing.. I'm pretty pissed off. I was/am planning on using topically in a 70/30% ratio of ethanol/pg, just like RU58841.
 

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Tofacitinib, aka Xeljanz... I think I remember reading about it promoting CD200. This in combination with other stuff could work wonders. I also think I read somewhere that it suppresses DKK1.



This would be Tofacitinib ;)

And I do think it could produce some serious results against Androgentic Alopecia... too bad not a single doctor has gotten off his/her *** to do a case study. Fvcking aggravating as hell.

Have you heard of anyone having results with it? Did you get the tablets or API (powder)
 

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Let's get a protocol ready for a community trial, Benj, mind doing this?
 

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Python- let's come up with a mixture that we think would work. I still believe that if we were to have a compounded solution it will work better than any stand alone med
 

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Python- let's come up with a mixture that we think would work. I still believe that if we were to have a compounded solution it will work better than any stand alone med
I agree, but I am not the best on doing this sort of stuff. We would need one of the forum chemists to step up :D
 

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An update to my op Critical Read: http://ac.els-cdn.com/S009286741100...t=1415266024_afbb1972942da163e9f8076dab7fe2c2

CD34 stem cells: I found out that they are correlated with lef1 and TCF7. Activating tcf7 will produce the deficient CD34 progenitor cells. We need to find out how to activate TCF7.

CD200 stem cells: This is important. We need to find the pathway for its production, so we can find out how to restore it in the hair follicle.

Androgen Receptor:

Senescence: p53, p21, and p16 initiated by the androgen receptor. P53 and p21 is decreased by azelaic acid, however p16 has its own pathway and so far I do not know how to inhibit it. P16 is key to Androgenetic Alopecia!

GSK3 alpha and beta are used in androgen receptor activation. Lithium, from lithium chloride only (no information on other types of lithum salts) will inhibit both types of gsk. GSK 3 alpha and beta blockers and androgen receptor inhibitors are used in prostate cancer for increased inhibition of androgen receptor transactivation.

So, using CB or RU and lithium topically will completely inhibit androgen receptors. Some may say lithium does not work, that is because lithium chloride needs to be used. Also, I have read that lithium increases bcl 2 which is already increased in balding hair follicles. BCL 2 is anti apoptotic but hidners growth. This is fine as long as retinoic acid is used as it decreases bcl2 in a time and dose dependent manner. Retinoic acid also increases p53 and p21, but azelaic acid decreases it. It is all about balancing out the cons, so that the pros can work.

Retinoic acid: Binds to ppar alpha and beta for hair follicle growth, possibly counteracting ppar gamma activated by Platelet derived growth factor and azelaic acid.

Wounding:
Think of the fibrotic plaque around the hair follicles as the plaque being formed in arteries. When it is clogged, no/low blood flow, heart attack, and cell death can occur. So it is similar around the hair follicles. Wounding to remove and repair the fibrotic plaque needs to be done in order to allow fat cells to surround hair follicle for optimal growth and thickness of dermal papilla.

When the scalp is wounded, Lhx2 is activated. Lhx2 inhibits Lgr5 which regulates bulge and secondary germ stem cells. Inhibiting Lgr5 will keep hair in anagen by inhibiting stem cell activation. So, creating a new hair in anagen in the follicle will not be possible. Lhx2 stimulates sox9 and tcf4, which is needed for hair follicle progenitor cells. So in short, wounding regenerates stem cells but also inhibits their activation for new growth in a certain time period. How to induce wounding and cycling(time) is the key.

Link for wounding article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4067271/

Platelet Dervied Growth Factor:
Is needed for hair regrowth. Hypoxia should increase its production. Also, it is the main factor in PRP therapy. It also activates ppar gamma via akt-something to look into. Maybe this explains why PRP needs to be done often to work due to the inhibitory effect of ppar gamma.

About hypoxia: http://www.rndsystems.com/cb_detail_objectname_SU07_HIF1.aspx

Arrector Pilli: There is a study stating that since it attaches to the bulge stem cell area of the hair and that it is destroyed in the process of Androgenetic Alopecia, that miniaturized hair will not/only slightly regrow. It may be an old topic but let us get this cleared up. In a hair transplant, the arrector pilli is not destroyed correct? Is there some way the AP muscle has some neural or other pathway to stimulate the bulge stem cells? From the link I posted about hair follicle stem cells, it stated that neighboring hair follicle stem cell niches also secrete regulatory factors, allowing one hair to couple with neighboring hairs. This can possibly mean that the Arrector Pilli is the route for allowing the coupling, hence hair losing the connection to the arrector pilli will cause a difficulty for regrowth. Let’s find out if the destruction of the arrector pilli does have to do with the lack of regrowth in Androgenetic Alopecia.

We need to find out the pathway for CD34 and CD200 progenitor cells and the noncanonical and canonical wnt pathway explained in terms for hair.

Regimen to halt Androgenetic Alopecia, thicken thinning hair, and regrow vellus/minizurized hair:

Topically: Minoxidil, lithium chloride, azelaic acid, ru58841/cb, retinoic acid, hypoxia inducer, finasterde/dutasteride, jak stat (stat3) inhibitor, and wounding.

Internally: Finasteride/dutaseteride (if not topically and if you have no side effects from them).

Not much of a revolution as I hoped for. However, there should be other drugs, herbs, and ways to cycle procedures that can reverse miniaturization. We need to learn more about how the hair follicle grows via stem cells, wnt pathways, receptors involved, the inflammatory pathway, so we can recreate the climate to regrow miniaturized hairs---we need to start looking outside the box.

Interesting: http://meridianvalleylab.com/testosteron-metabolite-3b-adiol
Scroll down and read what it says about lithium, retinoic acid, nadh/nad, and coconut oil
 

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I've tried Tretinoin cream for a while on the temples.

Everytime temples shed massively, then grow back when I stop using it for a while.
 

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Is minoxidil worth it in conjunction with finasteride or will it ultimately make my hair fall faster after the initial regrowth?
 
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