Anti-androgens really suck and i'm feeling the difference as i'm recovering from them
- Thread starter Caillou
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I will take baseline pictures the day i start taking it and will document any regrowth i receive by taking new pictures and comparing them to the baseline ones
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how old were you when you got on the anti androgen? you said it was dutasteride right? did you try a low finasteride dose like .25 mg?
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i'm the opposite, i regret not getting on finasteride earlier, i was on 1 mg everyday and had zero issues
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did you stop?
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Get on dutasteride it makes you horny. More unconverted T floating around, you’ll be an androgen beast
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i dont like taking finasteride but then i see my friends balding and feel thankful i got on last year.
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I'm in the same boat. I even reduced my dosage to 0.25mg. Feel like you can't win with this situation.
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Good luck. Start with a low dose and don't exceed 5mg (unless you really feel your body can take it and/or are desperate)
There are concerns with it possibly inhibiting collagen synthesis, but in studies those effects were only noticed at a much higher concentration. Regardless there are many accounts of people claiming a noticeable, and sometimes irreversible, increase in wrinkling.
Then there's the potential issue of LV hypertrophy — the one that personally worries me the most.
Personally, I've been on it for 3 years. I've had my heart checked thoroughly and so far no irregularities. I also don't even have the faintest of lines on my face.
In the end, just like finasteride, it's not something you take to be healthy. ( I couldn't stomach AAs myself; they gave me an odd feeling of depression, bordering on depersonalisation)
Pick your poison
EDIT: despite emphasising the side effects ( I don't want to bullshit you ) there's enough indication that it's well-tolerated in conservative dosages. In Asia it has been a less obscure/controversial option for decades in the fight against hairloss. Dr Pathomvanich for example, one of the most renowned surgeons in SEA, has written extensively on the benefits of low-dose oral minoxidil/loniten in patients with androgenic alopecia. He himself has also taken it for over a decade, so the man stand by his words. Shouldn't be hard to find his notes on it floating on the net
There are concerns with it possibly inhibiting collagen synthesis, but in studies those effects were only noticed at a much higher concentration. Regardless there are many accounts of people claiming a noticeable, and sometimes irreversible, increase in wrinkling.
Then there's the potential issue of LV hypertrophy — the one that personally worries me the most.
Personally, I've been on it for 3 years. I've had my heart checked thoroughly and so far no irregularities. I also don't even have the faintest of lines on my face.
In the end, just like finasteride, it's not something you take to be healthy. ( I couldn't stomach AAs myself; they gave me an odd feeling of depression, bordering on depersonalisation)
Pick your poison
EDIT: despite emphasising the side effects ( I don't want to bullshit you ) there's enough indication that it's well-tolerated in conservative dosages. In Asia it has been a less obscure/controversial option for decades in the fight against hairloss. Dr Pathomvanich for example, one of the most renowned surgeons in SEA, has written extensively on the benefits of low-dose oral minoxidil/loniten in patients with androgenic alopecia. He himself has also taken it for over a decade, so the man stand by his words. Shouldn't be hard to find his notes on it floating on the net
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i haven't done my research but i wouldn't think oral minoxidil would work long term without AA?
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It's a valid remark. It does seem like treating the symptom and ignoring the underlying condition. But this stuff is potent. Perhaps its vasodilation effect is strong enough to 'outpace'/break through the stranglehold DHT has on the follicles. It works for me and many others.
(Some of them who didn't stabilise on AAs. And yet recovered so much hair they later could undergo surgery)
Your mileage may vary. Essentially everything we do is trial and error
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yea i was on it for 2 years, it kept a few super thin spider web hairs around and thats all so i quit. that "norwood 6 at 21" thread i made was after being on it for 2 years, i quit right around the time i posted that
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wow i'm surprised theres a way to safetly take f*****g blood pressure medication loll. rogaine gave me palpitations and lightheadedness though, so i doubt i would be able to take it orally. i've even found studies showing rogaine f*****g up your circulatory system. but i mean, wrinkles? just the fact that its f*****g blood pressure medicine? you cant blame people for not taking it
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do you notice your face looking more bloated / less sharp on oral min? i'm definitely quitting topical again and already recoering from the pufiness and wrinkling ( i hope those issues were cause by the vehicle and not minoxidil itself). i'm jumping on oral once again instead and i really hope it's not going to f*** my face up
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I remember being on finasteride for about a month, then I couldn't get my dick hard one day. I stopped taking it immediately - luckily everything returned to near normal after a couple months
I'm on 10mg oral minoxidil a day - drinking Kirkland liquid , I've noticed a big decrease in shedding nearly 4 months in
I'm on 10mg oral minoxidil a day - drinking Kirkland liquid , I've noticed a big decrease in shedding nearly 4 months in
Try this site if you don't want to drink the liquid: https://www.reliablerxpharmacy.com/
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oral minoxidil may have sides :/
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does it ship to europe?