Any Users That Succefully Switched From Oral To Topical Finasteride Due To Sides?

BigOl'BaldingHead

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Topical finasteride is said to be a 'safer' alternative than oral. But I don't know how that can be true since even with an 0.1% formulation and 10% absorbtion rate, 0.1mg will still go into the bloodstream. Which will have about the same effect on DHT serum as 0.25mg or 1mg finasteride.
So how is it possible to have a reduced chance of (severe) side effects on topical than on oral finasteride? Is it mainly psychological? Or are there any other reasons apart from a reduction in DHT serum for side effects? For example dutasteride reduces DHT serum by more than 90% while still having about the same safety profile.

So this kept me wondering whether there are actually people that switched from oral to topical finasteride due to sides from oral, and actually had a reduction in side effects. Has anyone also ever tried lipomosal finasteride?

This old thread also explains how topical finasteride is basically pointless: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...de-microdosing-as-additional-treatment.98373/
 
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Switched to topical at minimum dosage "Mazzarella" formulation, from more than a decade of 1mg finasteride.
Using minoxidil as well, after 3 months, no sign of side effects of any kind (and i experienced low libido for sure in the last period of 1mg)
Just make sure not to drop the pill cold turkey, hormones are in delicate balance
 

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Has no one any experience with this?
Topical is no where near as effective as the pill. Plus the topical still goes systemic. Why not stop reading these bullshit forums, man up and take the pill and see if it works for you? It can take up to a year or more to work. If you don't want to commit, move on and go bald
 

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I have tried topical finasteride in various vehicles at various dosages

It’s very hard to dose properly and there is a constant paranoia that you are not using enough. Then again I have partially finasteride resistant hairloss so I’m not the best person to tell the difference
 

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I made a similar post but i really think that this forums is kind of dead also, like the other ones that i know about...

From what i saw you can take Morr-F from India that everybody uses and i saw some reports of low libido and some "aging face" from the minoxidil in it, or there is a site Minoxidilmax that has a variety of combination between finasteride, minoxidil and azelaic acid.... Different combos and concentrations...

From the studies i have saw and are available they say that with 5% minoxidil and 0.1% finasteride is the best combo and the sides were reduced drastically...
I don't know exactly how it works and if it's really that big difference between swallowing that pill or taking the topical route ( in terms of sides ), but from what i have read it really is a difference and i even saw a reputable doctor on the bald truth forum that says:

" Topical finasteride with minoxidil is the best solution I've seen so far and without the side effects so that is great " - John P. Cole, MD

Sincerely i would try that Morr-F from India because it's the only place where they make it, you can even check for it's authenticity, it's not that expensive and i did not see any side reports except some low libido ones...

But Minoxidilmax has some interesting stuff also, that azelaic acid is well known for it's potential and they have different vehicles that could reduce absorption....

I'm very confused and undecided but i guess it's a general state of mind especially if you don't want to take Propecia directly....

The problem is that other studies conclude that even a very small dose of finasteride will inhibit the same amount of DHT serum as 1mg finasteride. So it will probably cause the same side effects.
 

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Topical is no where near as effective as the pill. Plus the topical still goes systemic. Why not stop reading these bullshit forums, man up and take the pill and see if it works for you? It can take up to a year or more to work. If you don't want to commit, move on and go bald

No topical is almost even better since it supresses more scalp DHT.
 

BigOl'BaldingHead

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As you said, "probably"... But the anecdotal reports of people say the contrary, and even some doctors... Most barely if they have any libido issues, at least from what they are reporting...

And i really think it depends a lot on the vehicle and i really think it has a big chance of going more systemic if you dermaroll before and apply it after like the majority does ....

Finasteride has a very big nocebo effect. So when you are applying it topically, you feel safer which results in lesser sides. But these sides were never caused by finasteride to begin with, but by your brain. A big portion of the sides from finasteride is caused by the reduction of DHT serum, which is both the same on the oral and topical form. So they will both cause the same side effects if you are sensitive to the reduction.
 

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Ohh so we should stop reading these bullshit forums but before we do that, we should read your comment and take your "advice" for granted correct ?

Why the f*** people feel the need to stick their opinions "with force" on somebody else's mind, i really don't get it... It's maybe because you are frustrated that you take it and want to take it for the rest of your life and want other people on that journey with you ?
Or what's the f*****g reason of this stupid incel comments ? Is this how you "tell yourself that you made the right decision" or what ?

Read the f*****g question that the post was made on and if you don't have any answers just don't answer, it's that simple.....

Who the f*** are you to tell somebody to "man up" when in fact it's "be prepared to transform yourself into a women, or at least a semi-one" or to tell somebody when they should go bald ?

If he asked something like this, it's clearly that he is looking for an alternative, it's not like you are the only one who knows about the pill, the whole globe has it in every pharmacy, if somebody wants to take it or just accept baldness, it's their decision not yours, imagine being that dumb in taking somebody's advice from a forum for granted, and basing your decision on their comments and opinions...

f*****g incels, it's full of them, on every corner of the internet....
And who are you to include your input? You started and ended your comment like a ranting toddler. If people don't want others opinions then they shouldn't post questions. And if there were better alternatives it would be all over the news.
Maybe you prefer others to take complete androgen blockers and female hormones which will transform you into a woman. Pffft
 

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And who are you to include your input? You started and ended your comment like a ranting toddler. If people don't want others opinions then they shouldn't post questions. And if there were better alternatives it would be all over the news.
Maybe you prefer others to take complete androgen blockers and female hormones which will transform you into a woman. Pffft
He's ranting but he has a point. For a reason or another, the balding finasteride users try to hide their insecurities by bashing anybody that has doubts about the use of fina or report various sides...
 

shidoin

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He's ranting but he has a point. For a reason or another, the balding finasteride users try to hide their insecurities by bashing anybody that has doubts about the use of fina or report various sides...
Who is balding and has doubts or sides? Were you addressing me? You don't even take the meds! I've stated before I've been on for 20 years and have kept a Norwood 3 while the rest of my family is a Norwood 7 and the only way to know for sure if it's going to work is to take it.
 

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Who is balding and has doubts or sides? Were you addressing me? You don't even take the meds! I've stated before I've been on for 20 years and have kept a Norwood 3 while the rest of my family is a Norwood 7 and the only way to know for sure if it's going to work is to take it.
No, I wasn't talking about you but if you scan the threads around here you'll see what I mean. Also, congrats on your results.
 

shidoin

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No, I wasn't talking about you but if you scan the threads around here you'll see what I mean. Also, congrats on your results.
Thanks! Don't be afraid to try things out. nothing has been scientificly proven to be permanent as far as sides
 
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