Anyone afraid to take Dutasteride?

Damn Wind

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I have been on Avodart for a couple of years then stopped treatment because I switched jobs and no longer had insurance. I have recently began treating my male pattern baldness with Dr. Reddys DUTAS and wonder if I am putting myself at risk for serious health problems down the road because of this drug. Any thoughts?
 

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teahills said:
In my opinion , yes you are at the same risk as finasteride users. I am afraid finasteride will screw up my hormones. Hnec I stuck to the naturalis topical. On it for at least a year with regrowth and no side effects.

STOP SPAMMING THAT NATURALIS CRAP!!!! YOU'VE BEEN TOLD BEFORE ASSWIPE! EVERY DAMN POST YOU'VE EVER MADE ON ANY FORUM HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT CRAP!! GET OUT!!
 

YoungAndThin

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I've seen alot of Avodart commercials on TV recently. Advertising to older men who have overactive bladders.

It mentions rare side effects like swelling or tender breasts may occur.
 

Damn Wind

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I can't find anything regarding long term negative effects. I just wonder why the phase III trials we're cancelled.
 

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Damn Wind said:
I can't find anything regarding long term negative effects. I just wonder why the phase III trials we're cancelled.

I believe they were cancelled due to a lot of internal politics at the time...I think a merger was happening with the drug companies. Also they began to think it wouldn't prove profitable especially with all the negative publicity given to propecia side effects...all over inflated of course...and then to introduce a similar drug with perhaps a higher instance of sides....probably wouldn't go over well with the masses (excluding the desperate :) ) All purely business reasons of course....I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with side effects.
 

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nativeremedies said:
Thats quite the theory. Did Mulder And Scully help you with that?

Actually, no...I actually believe I read it on this forum wiseass. In fact it was from something written by Dr Sawaya a leading dr in hairloss research who would probably know better than any of us as to why the phase 3 trials were cancelled.
 

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Damn Wind said:
I can't find anything regarding long term negative effects. I just wonder why the phase III trials we're cancelled.

The word at the time was that the Glaxo bigwigs didn't feel that their drug was more effective enough or stood out enough from Propecia for them to make much more money, so they dropped the pursuit of hairloss as an extra indication.

Bryan
 

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I guess those who are afraid are just afraid of the unknown, and this is a very logical fear. Its a new drug so i guess we just don't know if there will be any effects down the line. Its been readily available for around 4 years now i think and i haven't read of any evidence of serious consequences from sustained use of the drug, so I actually feel pretty happy to start on it.

finasteride on the other hand has been shown to be safe for a long long time. People still worried about finasteride are just being irrational or scaremongering. way too much of that goes on here.
 

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I'm not affraid to get on dutasteride. i'm affraid to get off my real, prescribed proscar, when some people on this site are telling me that half the drugs are placebos or diluted. I'm figuring out how to test it without actual dutasteride standards. i'm going to use other chemicals to ball park it and set limits and make sure it is at least 75% what it claims. I have some homework to do on it, though. if my wee-wee complains, then I will know to reduce my dose. Until then, my goal will be 0.5mg twice a week. cheap and safe. that will take care of 95% of type 2 5ar and leave 85% of the type 1 in my brain alone.
 

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I'm afraid of the price. Even the generic stuff is running about $40 monthly, right?
 

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Damn Wind said:
It's about a dollar a pill.

I guess that's not too bad it it'll do the trick. I blow much more than that on vitamins every month.
 

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Damn Wind said:
So the general consensus is not to be afraid. Good to hear.
NO, there was never a study on the effect of younger males taking this specifically, yes there was a phase II, but fine tuning the dosage and a large scale experiment was never done

college: so dutasteride is like a birth control pill, in that some are not real because of the longer half life, just so you will take it every day and not mess up?
 

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finasteride is scarier than Dutasteride. Your body balances any effects in about a month or two of use, you only need very low doses, and everything is chill. When I read about side effects of Finasteride it's as if taking that sh*t makes you less of a man...guys report feeling much weaker during the day, much calmer, no sex drive at all.

I like Dutasteride because it will fight hair loss and it won't take anything away from the way you feel on the inside. It's good to counter dutasteride or finasteride with an androgen such as L-Arginine or Men's Passion Booster (vitacost.com).

If anyone is worried about long-term effects on their liver for dutasteride and/or finasteride, just purchase a container of Bio Greens:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/b ... id=VS-1468
Daily dose is 3 teaspoons, but you only need 1...mixed with any liquid. Keeps your liver running great and conatins many vegetable extracts that are good for the body not found in many salads.
 

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Shielded said:
finasteride is scarier than Dutasteride. Your body balances any effects in about a month or two of use, you only need very low doses, and everything is chill. When I read about side effects of Finasteride it's as if taking that $#iT makes you less of a man...guys report feeling much weaker during the day, much calmer, no sex drive at all.

I like Dutasteride because it will fight hair loss and it won't take anything away from the way you feel on the inside. It's good to counter dutasteride or finasteride with an androgen such as L-Arginine or Men's Passion Booster (vitacost.com).

If anyone is worried about long-term effects on their liver for dutasteride and/or finasteride, just purchase a container of Bio Greens:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/b ... id=VS-1468
Daily dose is 3 teaspoons, but you only need 1...mixed with any liquid. Keeps your liver running great and conatins many vegetable extracts that are good for the body not found in many salads.
wow, where do we start here....

your body "balances" off dutasteride in a month or two?? Where did you make that crap up? Seriously, if it "balanced" it off, then it would not longer work. The lower dosage is partially because the compound has a longer half life and stays within the body longer... that's part of how a dosage is determined

If anything, dutasteride has more side effects and they will take longer to go away, this is backed up by the medical trials (BHP)

nice try on green tea for "long-term effects" on the liver too... thats genius
 

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shielded is starting to p^ss me off with his lies.

in response to hair_tomorrow, take US generic Proscar at your local pharmacy with a prescription, 1/8 pill, every other day. That will guarantee you get 85% the strenght of propecia for $60 per year or less, depending on the generic price. I'm basing that on $80.

Then buy dutas or whatever you think is real at http://www.unitedpharmacies.com or http://www.inhousepharmacy.com or http://www.elitenetpharmacy.com. I can't vouch for any of these being real until I complete my tests after the experienced posters mail me their samples. Take 2 capsules per week. That is $8 per month for dutas and $24 per month if you get Avodart at a US pharmacy with a prescription. If you do the US route, you can drop the proscar. So you are looking at two drugs and $16 the overseas route, or one drug and $24 if you can get a doctor to prescribe it here.

My plan is to do the test, if it passes, buy a few dutas strips and one of each of the other brands to see how many fakes are out there, and if they all pass, I'll buy many dutas strips for a 4 year supply for my brother and I, and test one capsule out of every 30. If they all pass, I'll drop the proscar and be happy with my $8 per month dutas twice per week supply.

Just so you all know, go to http://www.register.com, click on "whois", and you can see where every web site is hosted. inhouse and elite are hosted from panama, and united from hong kong, and eucapil from berlin, and wallgreans in the US. To have a web site, a computer's hard drive must have the site for people to access it. That has an ISP address which can be traced. So if there is a reason not to have the computer in a country, getting a foreign computer to host the site is an answer, since customs won't go over there.

I wonder why these sites can't be hosted in Britain or India. Either politics means Britain and India don't want to p^ss off the US or Merk and GSK, or GSK and Merk don't want to get in trouble with the US, or these countries don't like the internet pharmacy. My question is how do these pharmacies get the drugs from the factories, and which ones, and how good are the drugs, and how much do governments control who manufacturers sell to, and how much do manufacturers control who pharmacies sell to. Everyone wants to increase there sales, but no one wants to get sued or get in trouble. So it is possible these drugs are real, and possible they are not, and possible that many web sites could pose as the good ones. Register.com will tell you how long the domain name has been owned.

Cipla is a shining star company without question. my question is do these sites get there products from Cipla. Cipla did not respond to my email, probably because they don't know if I'm a US customs official. Cipla does ignore US patents and make AIDS drugs cheaply for poor countries.

Like I said. Don't be affraid of dutasteride. Be affraid of getting off your prescription, store front bought drug, until I get my results back. And I'll stock up before I post my results, so I don't get back ordered.
 
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