Anyone used topical mixture of finastride and minoxidil?

[londonhairlossvictim]

Anyone used this successfully?
I seen a few brands now selling this, I'm just wondering is it as effective as the pill?

For example this one - https://sons.co.uk/products/topical-finasteride-minoxidil-spray

 

[londonhairlossvictim]

DoctorHouse is using proxiphen which i believe contains both minoxidil and finasteride topically.

I don't get what you mean - is that the name of a user lol

 

[DoctorHouse]

DoctorHouse is using proxiphen which i believe contains both minoxidil and finasteride topically.

@Descending Dog Proxiphen does not contain finasteride.

 

[DoctorHouse]

@jazz1 is the one that uses topical finasteride and minoxidil combo.

 

[irishdub]

Anyone used this successfully?
I seen a few brands now selling this, I'm just wondering is it as effective as the pill?

For example this one - https://sons.co.uk/products/topical-finasteride-minoxidil-spray

Be careful, this is one of the only topics I reply to in this section because I would not want anyone to go through the horrible situation I did.

Long story short, I was on oral finasteride for the guts of 20 years and last summer was thinking of quitting but decided to try topical finasteride and I endured horrendous sides which saw me on a journey seeing my GP many times, getting brain MRI, muscle wastage, and more

About 90% recovered but topical finasteride was lethal for me, I would add though absolutely amazing for my hair.

I am now completely off finasteride just about a year, the drug should come with the big warnings like you see on cigarette packs

For 90% of the time I used minoxidil as the vehicle for my topical finasteride and remaining time Trinov.

 

[debyne]

Be careful, this is one of the only topics I reply to in this section because I would not want anyone to go through the horrible situation I did.

Long story short, I was on oral finasteride for the guts of 20 years and last summer was thinking of quitting but decided to try topical finasteride and I endured horrendous sides which saw me on a journey seeing my GP many times, getting brain MRI, muscle wastage, and more

About 90% recovered but topical finasteride was lethal for me, I would add though absolutely amazing for my hair.

I am now completely off finasteride just about a year, the drug should come with the big warnings like you see on cigarette packs

For 90% of the time I used minoxidil as the vehicle for my topical finasteride and remaining time Trinov.

Why did you quit oral finasteride after 20 years? Sides?

 

[irishdub]

Why did you quit oral finasteride after 20 years? Sides?

Yep!

And being off it one year made me realise that even on oral Finasteride I had sides that I was unaware aware of, I had been on it for practically my whole adult life.
And after what the topical version did to me it made me realise in my opinion the drug is poison.


And I certainly don't believe it should be prescribed by doctors for cosmetic reasons

 

[user394587]

Yep!

And being off it one year made me realise that even on oral Finasteride I had sides that I was unaware aware of, I had been on it for practically my whole adult life.
And after what the topical version did to me it made me realise in my opinion the drug is poison.


And I certainly don't believe it should be prescribed by doctors for cosmetic reasons

What side effects did you have that you were unaware of?

 

[irishdub]

What side effects did you have that you were unaware of?

What side effects did you have that you were unaware of?

Now balls and dick are bigger, especially my penis when flaccid
Semen quality
Penal sensitivity increased
Mood and my sleep, spent most of my life adult life accepting I just had bad sleep pattern, completely improved when off the drug.

Also bloating, my face is lot trimmer and I look fitter.

And after the horrendous sides I then got on topical finasteride, if anyone ever asked me now about finasteride, I would tell them to stay away.

Have a brother late 20's and I have warned him not to touch it within an inch of his life if he ever felt his hair was deteriorating.

After the topical experience, I had to go see doctor many times, a urologist, and get a brain MRI to check my pituitary gland.

So anyone thinking of making the transition from oral to topical finasteride and you get less sides, the opposite was for me.

 

[user394587]

Now balls and dick are bigger, especially my penis when flaccid
Semen quality
Penal sensitivity increased
Mood and my sleep, spent most of my life adult life accepting I just had bad sleep pattern, completely improved when off the drug.

Also bloating, my face is lot trimmer and I look fitter.

And after the horrendous sides I then got on topical finasteride, if anyone ever asked me now about finasteride, I would tell them to stay away.

Have a brother late 20's and I have warned him not to touch it within an inch of his life if he ever felt his hair was deteriorating.

After the topical experience, I had to go see doctor many times, a urologist, and get a brain MRI to check my pituitary gland.

So anyone thinking of making the transition from oral to topical finasteride and you get less sides, the opposite was for me.

Do you recall what the concentration of the topical finasteride was? The fact that you experienced such extreme side effects on the topical and not on the oral form of administration doesn't make much sense to me unless the concentration of finasteride in the topical solution was very high.

Anecdotally, people I've spoken to have experienced less side effects on the topical, or more commonly, it's taken them longer to experience side effects. Not that I'm dismissing your experience, this is just the first time I've heard of someone reacting worse to the topical form of administration.

 

[irishdub]

Do you recall what the concentration of the topical finasteride was? The fact that you experienced such extreme side effects on the topical and not on the oral form of administration doesn't make much sense to me unless the concentration of finasteride in the topical solution was very high.

Anecdotally, people I've spoken to have experienced less side effects on the topical, or more commonly, it's taken them longer to experience side effects. Not that I'm dismissing your experience, this is just the first time I've heard of someone reacting worse to the topical form of administration.

I took 0.75mg quantity of finasteride per dose per night in my minoxidil

That is a low dose and I got horrible sides

I would add I was getting incredible results, never really got great results on oral but on topical finasteride my hair was thickening so much and my sparse crown filling in

 

[Scott Ryan]

@irishdub I would agree with you regarding the effects ofboral finasteride, bloated face, willy very small when flaccid.. but I'll tell you, it kept my hair on my head and that alone was cause for celebration because the alternative would have been baldness - I found that lots of cardio excersize and a low calorie diet helped with sides. Can I ask you a question Sir, oral Propecia is not working for me now after 6 years, I have tried oral Avodart for a week and getting very good initial results. Can I ask you : what is your daily medication routine now? And if you don't mind me asking what is your age? I am 48 and now taking 1x Avodart once a week with 2 X Propecia every 12 hours for 6 days + Regaine foam Every 12 hours. Thanks in advance (Propecia not working but afraid to come off it just in case)

 

[irishdub]

@irishdub I would agree with you regarding the effects ofboral finasteride, bloated face, willy very small when flaccid.. but I'll tell you, it kept my hair on my head and that alone was cause for celebration because the alternative would have been baldness - I found that lots of cardio excersize and a low calorie diet helped with sides. Can I ask you a question Sir, oral Propecia is not working for me now after 6 years, I have tried oral Avodart for a week and getting very good initial results. Can I ask you : what is your daily medication routine now? And if you don't mind me asking what is your age? I am 48 and now taking 1x Avodart once a week with 2 X Propecia every 12 hours for 6 days + Regaine foam Every 12 hours. Thanks in advance (Propecia not working but afraid to come off it just in case)

After about 10 years, I tried avodart as an add on, just once a week and then actually everyday in replacement of finasteride but didn't really see much difference. I got my avodart on holidays in Spain easy in the chemist but when ran out my Irish Doctor back home would only prescribe finasteride, so went back on that. Avodart gave no real difference

I am 42 and would never take finasteride or avodart again, I take nothing that could alter androgens, my body is very sensitive now, had to even come off weak anti androgen Trinov.

Along with muscle wastage on topical finasteride I also got gyno, shrunk penis and shrunk balls, weight gain, joint pain, fatigue, just not worth it for more hair on my head.

Gyno is mostly recovered but not all, thankfully balls & dick fully recovered. Still some joint pain. And muscle 90%

As for my body muscle, still cannot get all my forearm muscle to return, my wrists are thin and neck muscle still not fully recovered, the rest has, muscle wastage was all over body, legs too.

Now my routine is just rogaine, derma rolling and head massage but of course lost ground in last year quitting finasteride


Oh and I mentioned this in a previous post, topical Finasteride for me in terms of hair was far far superior than oral but as you can see the sides it gave made it impossible to continue and I used relatively low dose

 

[Scott Ryan]

That's very informative - thank you. I would agree with everything you are saying in relation to your sides. Ive got the same issues. Ive lost the crown totally but holding on to the front - it seems a lot of pain for the trade off ... No problem if not, do you have any pics of your crown regrowth during your topical finasteride period?
Hope Dublin is ok, heard you can't have a sit down cup of coffee without "showing your papers"

 

[jazz1]

Anyone used this successfully?
I seen a few brands now selling this, I'm just wondering is it as effective as the pill?

For example this one - https://sons.co.uk/products/topical-finasteride-minoxidil-spray

I am from London and been buying my mixture from America Murray Avenue Apothecary compound pharmacy, you can customise the formula and they ship to most countries.

My lotion i customised contains:

15% minoxidil
0.1% finasteride
5% azelaic Acid
0.25% progesterone
0.025% tretinoin
0.1% hydrocortisone.

See the thread below I created should you be interested in custom compound mixture with Finasteride or Dutasteride.

See here:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/topical-minoxidil-finasteride-mixture-check-here.126633/

 

[Scott Ryan]

Thanks Jazz ... Sheesh that's a lot of mixing! Is it working for you?

 

[jazz1]

Thanks Jazz ... Sheesh that's a lot of mixing! Is it working for you?

Yes I been using the same mixture from different compound pharmacies since 2010, I currently buy from the above compound pharmacy Murray Avenue Apothecary.

 

[debyne]

Yep!

And being off it one year made me realise that even on oral Finasteride I had sides that I was unaware aware of, I had been on it for practically my whole adult life.
And after what the topical version did to me it made me realise in my opinion the drug is poison.


And I certainly don't believe it should be prescribed by doctors for cosmetic reasons

Did you ever try a lower dose? I was on 1mg daily for 12 years, dropped to 0.5mg four months ago, and I noticed a significant improvement in my sex drive and mental clarity. I feel great. My dick is still small though but that's not finasteride's fault

 

[Hair_Gods_Don't_Like_Test]

I took 0.75mg quantity of finasteride per dose per night in my minoxidil

That is a low dose and I got horrible sides

I would add I was getting incredible results, never really got great results on oral but on topical finasteride my hair was thickening so much and my sparse crown filling in

What results did you get i.e Temple regrowth, diffusion coverage estimated % etc?

Hasson and Wong had a Topical, then they pulled it. Noteworthy.

Did you have blood levels checked before Topical usage or during?

 

[Hair_Gods_Don't_Like_Test]

I am from London and been buying my mixture from America Murray Avenue Apothecary compound pharmacy, you can customise the formula and they ship to most countries.

My lotion i customised contains:

15% minoxidil
0.1% finasteride
5% azelaic Acid
0.25% progesterone
0.025% tretinoin
0.1% hydrocortisone.

See the thread below I created should you be interested in custom compound mixture with Finasteride or Dutasteride.

See here:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/topical-minoxidil-finasteride-mixture-check-here.126633/

Any side effects?