Are propecia side effects less likely if...

[themaniac]

you naturally have a lot of testosterone?

im nearly 18, started propecia and im a diffuse thinner, i take 1mg a day

i have very high libido, im hairy as hell, got a full beard, got a lot of muscle naturally, got a deep voice and my skin is oily

does this mean that im less likely to get the sexual side effects of propecia because my testosterone is already so high?

 

[Ende]

If anything, you're probably MORE likely to experience side effects, as testosterone converts to estrogen. It's elevated estrogen level which causes side effects from finasteride. Anyway, the only thing I believe that really matters when talking about risk, is body fat. Fat cells contains a lot of aromatase enzymes...

 

[themaniac]

If anything, you're probably MORE likely to experience side effects, as testosterone converts to estrogen. It's elevated estrogen level which causes side effects from finasteride. Anyway, the only thing I believe that really matters when talking about risk, is body fat. Fat cells contains a lot of aromatase enzymes...

im currently at 26% bf, would getting it down be better?

 

[Ende]

I believe so, yes. Use zinc if you run into trouble. A low dose every day could be taken as a precaution, but don't use anymore than RDA. Adjust to 50 mg a day if you get sexual problems.

 

[themaniac]

I believe so, yes. Use zinc if you run into trouble. A low dose every day could be taken as a precaution, but don't use anymore than RDA. Adjust to 50 mg a day if you get sexual problems.

Ahh that's good, because I was just about to start my workout routine on monday, this gives me extra motivation gonna get to down to around ~13%

 

[Ende]

Sounds good. I'm working on reducing the weight too. Research ketogenic diet, if you don't know what it is. It's very effective.

 

[GeminiX]

Sounds good. I'm working on reducing the weight too. Research ketogenic diet, if you don't know what it is. It's very effective.

As someone who has tried pretty much every weight loss plan ever published, I am in no rush to ever go back to one of the many Ketogenic diets (Atkins, Lighter Life, LGI etc. etc.).

While they do have very fast results, they can also easily cause your body to consume lean muscle all the while they make most people feel like utter crap

Also (and by far the worst part), they seem to have the highest yo-yo rate where people pile on the lbs they lost very quickly if they slip up.

All that said, I'm 41 and have been "dieting" all my adult life, so I clearly have will power issues too

 

[themaniac]

Sounds good. I'm working on reducing the weight too. Research ketogenic diet, if you don't know what it is. It's very effective.

yeah im part of a bodybuilding forum

im not gonna get my carbs as low as keto, but im gonna keep my carbs less than 100g a day, fats around 60g a day and protein around 180g a day

then on weekends i do carb-up, where i have like 300g+ clean carbs

time to get to action, if you have more muscle and less fat that's better when taking propecia and better all round right?

 

[Ende]

I don't see how muscle wasting is possible on a ketogenic diet, as muscles are maintained by proteins. Initially (a week or so), you may feel like you have a little less energy, and nothing you eat seems to satisfy the craving for carbohydrates, but then it gets better. You feel like you're eating too much, and you're never hungry. Your energy is good. My body switched to ketosis today, and I don't feel bad at all, but I do have some experience with it. I had a course over 2 months earlier this year, and lost 12 kg. I went up 2 kg the months after, and the weight was stable until I started building muscles. Anyway, you just have to find something that works for you. Motivation is one thing. There are periods where most people eat untill they're stuffed - every day, for several days - christmas for instance. You'll probably put on some weight, and if you do, run a ketogenic diet for a week, and it's gone... it's all about maintenance.

It's very important to drink a lot of water while in ketosis, or you will feel really bad.

 

[Ende]

time to get to action, if you have more muscle and less fat that's better when taking propecia and better all round right?

Yes, I don't care to explain now, but less body fat means less estrogen, and your body can use the 30% of DHT which it's still producing while you're on finasteride, to maintain tissue which is dependent on it, instead of countering excessive estrogen. It'll eventually deplete your DHT level and cause a lot of severe problems.

 

[themaniac]

time to get to action, if you have more muscle and less fat that's better when taking propecia and better all round right?

Yes, I don't care to explain now, but less body fat means less estrogen, and your body can use the 30% of DHT which it's still producing while you're on finasteride, to maintain tissue which is dependent on it, instead of countering excessive estrogen. It'll eventually deplete your DHT level and cause a lot of severe problems.

Ahh that'd good

does whey protein have any affect on hair?

ON Whey

 

[Ende]

I've no idea. I suggest you make a new thread for that question.

 

[HT55]

Very simple Keto diet for a 200 lb person.

Meal 1:
6 omega 3 eggs: 420 calories/27fat/6carb/36protein
9 fish oil capsules: 81 calories 9g fat

Meal 2:
8 oz grilled chicken breast: 220 calories 5fat /46 protein
40g raw almonds: 186 calories 16g fat /6.9g carb / 6.9 protein

Meal 3 pre workout:
50g whey isolate: 183 calories 45g protein
2 tbsp natural peanut butter: 380 calories 32g fat/14g carb/16g protein

Meal 4 post Workout:
50g whey isolate: 183 calories 45g protein
2 tbsp natural peanut butter: 380 calories 32g fat/14g carb/16g protein

Meal 5:
8 oz Top sirloin steak: 260 calories 9gfat/44g protein
1 cup of broccoli
1 tbsp of olive oil

Meal:6
28g Macadamia Nuts 201 calories 21gfat/4g carb/2g protein

Total so far:
2,266 calories
133.0 fat
37.6 carb
240.9 protein

 

[GeminiX]

HT55, I travel a lot; I spend at least half the week away from home and often I'm out of the country all together.

Do you have a similar plan which is easily portable which I can prepare on the weekend and take with me?

 

[HT55]

HT55, I travel a lot; I spend at least half the week away from home and often I'm out of the country all together.

Do you have a similar plan which is easily portable which I can prepare on the weekend and take with me?

I guess you would have to stay in hotels with mini kitchens and cook a lot in advance.

Let me tell you this diet works and you will keep your muscle but it's a pain, I spend a couple hours 2 days a week cooking the food and I heat it up.

It's the basic diet pro bodybuilders use , google Dave Jumbo Palumbo as he wrote it but it has been tweaked a little

If you are under or over 200 lbs you need to adjust it a little

 

[Ende]

Just one question; the total amount of carbs allowed each day is typically around 15g. Are you in ketosis all the time with those meals?

 

[HT55]

Just one question; the total amount of carbs allowed each day is typically around 15g. Are you in ketosis all the time with those meals?

You can but stips OTC at your pharmacy that you pee on and will tell you if you are in Ketosis.


Don't forget most chicken breast is LOADED with sodium, check the label you want ~ 40MG per serving tops