ATTENTION: Hormones / Sperm quality before/after Finasteride

amsch

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Hey there.
Here are the values of a german user (born 1984) who used Finasteride from April 2005 till June 2007. (age of 21-23)

Hormones

Hormone-Test early 2007 (on propecia for 2 years, still on it)

Testosteron: 4,69 ng/ml (3,5-8,6)
Prolactin: 14,10 ng/ml (<15)
SHBG: 34,90 nmol/l (13-71)
DHT: 271 ng/l (250-1000)
FSH: 2,72 mlU/ml (1-7)
LH: 4,07 mlU/ml (1,5-9,3)
DHEAS: 3,0 mg/l (1,6-4,5)

Hormone-Test early 2009 (about 2 years after quitting)

Testosteron: 6,66 ng/ml (3,5-8,6) -> 42% INCREASE!
Prolactin: 147 mU/l (<354) ->equals 6,94 ng/ml (<15) -> 50% DECREASE!!!
FSH: 2,9 mlU/ml (1-7)
LH: 3,3 mlU/ml (1,5-9,3)

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Spermiogram

Spermiogram early 2007 (2 years finasteride, still on it)
- 40 Million sperm/ml (Norm >20 Mio/ml, average ca. 60 Mio/ml)

- mobility:
12% fast progressive sperms (Category A)
8% progressive (Category B)

Attention: This is seen as a pretty BAD Mobility!


Spermiogram early 2009, (2 years after quitting finasteride)
- 78 Million sperm/ml

- mobility:
23%: fast progressive (Category A)
6%: progressive (Category B)

Urologe says mobility still not ideal, but shouldn't make problems now anymore.


Summary:
- Testosterone raised a lot after quitting, prolactin decreased strongly -> Good for Libido.
- Spermiogram showed MUCH BETTER values AFTER quitting, almost doubled amount, Highly increased Mobility.

So there you have it folks. Propecia can affect the sperm quantity AND quality /mobility.

Of course, somepeople will show up and say "Look this is 1 case in a million". Yeah right. This is about the first case that someone has done a before and after spermiogram and posted it into a hair loss-board, and it's coincidence that he's one of the 1.000.000 who had decreased sperm count and bad hormonal balance right?



Check this out too.
 

imlosinit

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This is a serious topic for those who wish to have children.

I'm assuming the sperm count bounces back after withdrawing from finasteride.
 

dougfunny

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Wow, actual scientific data. I can hardly believe my eyes! Good job.

What prompted you to get testing? Were you having trouble conceiving?
 

Belmondo

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Yes it's definitely true, finasteride can affect the quality of sperm. I've been taking proscar everyday for 14 years and my sperm looks like crap. It doesn't bother me much, as long as it can preserve my hair.
 

dougfunny

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Belmondo said:
my sperm looks like crap.

How do you know what your sperm looks like? Have you been studying it under a microscope?
 

Shma

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dougfunny said:
Belmondo said:
my sperm looks like crap.

How do you know what your sperm looks like? Have you been studying it under a microscope?
Most human beings have 2 of those so called "eyes" which can make you see things. :smack:
Watery semen= crap.
Thick, white semen= good.

Don't act stupid.
 

dougfunny

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Shma said:
dougfunny said:
Belmondo said:
my sperm looks like crap.

How do you know what your sperm looks like? Have you been studying it under a microscope?
Most human beings have 2 of those so called "eyes" which can make you see things.

Well OK, Superman. Most of us actually require a microscope that magnifies sperm to 500x it's normal size to see it since it is only about 2 micrometers in width!

What I think you mean, and suggest you start saying if you don't want to sound like an idiot, is that your semen looks like crap.

Semen is not sperm. And watery semen does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with your sperm.

There are lots of men with great semen that have zero sperm, and the other way around.
 

Shma

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dougfunny said:
Well OK, Superman. Most of us actually require a microscope that magnifies sperm to 500x it's normal size to see it since it is only about 2 micrometers in width!

What I think you mean, and suggest you start saying if you don't want to sound like an idiot, is that your semen looks like crap.

Semen is not sperm. And watery semen does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with your sperm.

There are lots of men with great semen that have zero sperm, and the other way around.
Well, you could have thought that he was talking about his SEMEN. :shakehead:
 
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