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badgenetics

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I've been reading posts for a while, and even though I haven't really lost that much hair yet I figured I should ask everybody's advice about my situation. As you can tell from my username, I have really bad genetics. I'll start with my mom's side.

My mom has 3 or 4 uncles on her mom's side, all of whom are completely bald (they were bald by their late twenties). She also has a few brothers - each one started balding in their teens and by age 21 or 22 they were completely bald (the one who had it the worst was completely bald by age 19). Her dad is completely bald, although he was terribly sick in his 20's and his hair fell out from his disease, which makes sense since his brother still has some thin hair (Norwood 3 or 4) at age 70.

My dad's side is nowhere near as depressing. All of my dad's uncles were probably about Norwood 3's, and my dad is that too. His dad was also that...I think pretty much all the males on my dad's side are around a Norwood 3.

So, onto me. I am 20 years old, and I haven't really noticed any signs of balding. My hairline isn't that different from my hairline from when I was in 2nd grade (I have a picture and compared), although it has matured slightly and and my right temple seems to have receded/thinned slightly. I know that serious balding will hit eventually - either from my dad's side or my mom's. I was hoping that some of you could tell me how much hair I've lost from the pictures I've gathered, and whether I need to start doing something about my hair.

Right Temple
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Left Temple
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Front of head (I've always had that large of a forehead)
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Back with flash
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Diaster

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Well im far from a expert,but dude,your hair looks great and from what iv read up on thinning will occur anyway was you get older,wish my hair was as good nick as yours,and if you are under attack by male pattern baldness,then you've caught it very very very early,but like i said im no expert,theres heaps of ppl here with loads of experience that can help,good luck
 
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I am not sure about you having male pattern baldness either. It still looks normal, especially if we keep in mind that you took these pictures with Flash. Maybe see a doctor and ask him about his opinion. At worst you are in the very early stages. Then I would recommend you Finasteride. You really don´t need minoxidil. If you are being told that you have no male pattern baldness then take monthly pictures of your hair so that you can spot a deterioration very early and step in immediately.


Good Luck, mate!
 

badgenetics

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Thanks for settling my fears!

I guess I have an insane fear of going bald since my family teased me since I was like 10 because they claimed I would be bald by now. I'll keep a watch on it for now and if I notice any changes in monthly photos I'll post again to see what I should do then.
 

dietcola

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dude your hair may never change. but due to your family history i would keep an eye on it, if you see it happening you'll know where it's going and you can treat it. don't spend your time dealing with hair loss if you don't have to, it's really depressing.
 

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badgenetics said:
Thanks for settling my fears!

I guess I have an insane fear of going bald since my family teased me since I was like 10 because they claimed I would be bald by now. I'll keep a watch on it for now and if I notice any changes in monthly photos I'll post again to see what I should do then.

You are going bald. You have male pattern baldness. Your temples have recessed and you have an early horse-shoe pattern forming. You know what? When I first started going bald, my straight hairline developed mild bald spots on my temples and a slight U shaped pattern just like you.

Others on this forum hope you do not catch your male pattern baldness early so you will be in the same boat they are.
 

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badgenetics, you may indeed be starting to lose your hair, but at this point it's undetectable. hairlines mature, that doesn't mean you are balding. keep an eye on it.

world of warcraft, you're an idiot. no one here wants him to lose his hair, do you think that would make us all feel better about ourselves? and since when are you a hair loss expert? i mean, you must be the best, you can see into peoples futures and predict their future hair loss even when they are showing very few signs of hair loss at all.

"my hair looked like that before so yours will fall out like mine now" yes very good reasoning skills you have here, did you take a critical thinking class in college?
 

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dietcola said:
world of warcraft, you're an idiot. no one here wants him to lose his hair, do you think that would make us all feel better about ourselves? and since when are you a hair loss expert?

my hair looked like that before so yours will fall out like mine now" yes very good reasoning skills you have here, did you take a critical thinking class in college?

Attention hypocrital moron. You are the same dumb bastard that thinks protien powder causes erectile disfunction. Yeah, I called you out on it. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and you are here to piss your pants for revenge I guess. Pssst.. guess what? I heard putting your left shoe on first in the morning causes a loss of libidio (you will probably believe this wont you)

You mentioned mature hairlines. Saying someone has a mature hairline is nothing more than saying he has mild male pattern baldness you fool. How do you think peoples hairlines mature, you think the hairs die from old age, idiot? Well you are wrong. Mature hairlines are hairlines with slight male pattern baldness kicking in. Its still DHT killing off hairs. If the male pattern baldness stops early, at about a Norwood 2, then its a mature hairline.

Here is a fact for you moron, his hairline is U shaped because DHT has caused him to lose hair in his temple region. You can be an idiot and say his hairline is maturing and its not hairloss, as if when your hair gets older it decides to magically reshape hitself, but that doesn't change anything.
 

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dietcola said:
"my hair looked like that before so yours will fall out like mine now" yes very good reasoning skills you have here, did you take a critical thinking class in college?

First off you clown, don't misquote people. Quote what I said, don't edit my quotes to make me say things I never said you troll fuckwit.

Secondly, the fact that my hair looked like his when it first started falling out was meant to be a testament to the fact that if I would have shown you a picture of my hair back then, I would get idiots like you telling me not to worry and that my hair just magically matured and decided to re-arrange its apperance (As if mature hairlines are not DHT killing of hair follicles in the temple region)


Think before you post.

p.s. Did you read his family history you idiot? "My mom has 3 or 4 uncles on her mom's side, all of whom are completely bald (they were bald by their late twenties). She also has a few brothers - each one started balding in their teens and by age 21 or 22 they were completely bald male pattern baldness is a major part of his family history."

/sarcasm, you are right dietcola dumbass, with great genetics and family hisotry like his, how could I even think he could become bald.

Hell, his only hope is to become a NW3 like his dad. NW3s look like "balding people" to me. What if he doesn't want to become an NW3?
 

dietcola

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i never once said protein powder could cause impotence, we were talking about a completely different supplement, go back and read the thread. thanks for calling me out tho. ooo ahhh.

he never asked if he had male pattern baldness, he even admitted that he was aware it was going to affect him. i said hairlines mature, i never said that wasn't a part of male pattern baldness, ramble on all you want.

if you want to go to all the new members and tell them how screwed they are and how terrible it gets because your hair was just like theirs before, and tell them that everyone here wants them to fail and lose all their hair, expect people to think you're a douche.
 

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dietcola said:
i never once said protein powder could cause impotence, we were talking about a completely different supplement, go back and read the thread. thanks for calling me out tho. ooo ahhh.

he never asked if he had male pattern baldness, he even admitted that he was aware it was going to affect him. i said hairlines mature, i never said that wasn't a part of male pattern baldness, ramble on all you want.

if you want to go to all the new members and tell them how screwed they are and how terrible it gets because your hair was just like theirs before, and tell them that everyone here wants them to fail and lose all their hair, expect people to think you're a douche.

Here is a mind blowing idea, how about the OP gets on propecia and keeps his great head of hair, rather then having him wait to see if he goes bald.

Lets say he waits, and starts to notice his temples are being shot. Now he has to battle male pattern baldness with less hair. Norwood III is balding (dads side). His best bet is to become a NWIII, if his mom's genetics kick in, he will be slick bald. Why do you think his name is badgenetics?

p.s. Don't call me out on critical thinking when I can find posts you make that make great leaps and bounds about weight lifting suplements and libido that, in my opinion, are totally baseless. It makes you look like a hypocrite.
 

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Badgenetics dont listen to wow ur hair in my honest opinion is in extremely good conditon i know ppl who are 19 and suffer from more drastic forms of male pattern baldness which is to say if you even have it,be thankfull for being 22 years of age your hair is fantastic but dont get me wrong u may have male pattern baldness and about this "U" or "V" hairline,dont read to much into it and get all worried,many people develop a "mature" hairline and it sticks with them for along time,yes wow people can get a mature hairline and keep it with them,it doesnt allways mean that baldness is just around the corner,i dont know what your problem is but this guy has come here for help and opinions,granted your entilted to yours but dont go trying to scare the sh*t out of him by saying "You are going bald. You have male pattern baldness" seriously dude,i dont know if your bitter about your hairloss and have to vent it out here but lay off abit,being honest about telling your perspectve on anothers hairloss is one thing,but thats going to far.
 

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Wow I didn't mean to cause all these arguments. I guess I should have more explicitly stated my concerns. Here's my two main concerns:

1. Is it possible that I could end up with a better hairline than other males in my family? My older brother, who is two years older than me, has just about the same hairline and thickness as I have. We've both been waiting to go bald for some time now, so I was just hoping to find out if it's possible that the balding skipped our generation and that we might not have dramatic hairloss (remember, my mom's dad wouldn't have gone bald if he hadn't had the disease in his 20's. Although his brother has a N3 now, he is in his 70s. For a man his age, I find that very impressive).

2. If any of you notice any balding signs from my pics, let me know. I don't want to be in denial, but I don't want to be a hypochondriac and get worried over something that isn't there. That's why I posted pics, I wanted the most honest opinions from everybody, especially from guys who have experienced hairloss and know what to expect.

WoW, if I am going bald as you say, what should I do about it? I checked a video I made about 5 years ago when I was 15 and my hairline looks the same as it did then. That might mean I have a mature hairline that will stay the same for a while, or I might be in a slow period before a drastic hairloss period. I was hoping with the information on my family I could be given a good guess from those who have experienced hairloss.

Once again, sorry for causing arguments. I appreciate those who defended my hairline, and for those who believe I am going bald please give me constructive advice for what to do about it.
 

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no need to be sorry hairloss is a sensitve topic and can cause a uproar very easily.


1. From what i have seen from my family and friends with hairloss yes it is possible to keep what you have for a while but dont read into that to much male pattern baldness is a bastard,might keep your hair for years to come or might go downhill very quickly.


2. Will do,safe to say everyone here is honest when it comes to opnions about others hairloss and i can understand what you mean about overreacting about your hairloss that you may not have,if you let it get to you to much your mind and eyes will play tricks on you when your looking at your hair in the mirrior and lead you to think your worse of then you are.


3. Getting on finasteride (propecia) would be your best bet if..IF you are suffering from male pattern baldness,i dont know what the deal is weather u can take it now to stop any hairloss from occuring or weather it would be best to wait to take it untill you see some loss first,personaly i'd wait it out but thats me so yeah ,ask around the forums for some input. Good luck :D
 

badgenetics

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Thanks for your input!

That's basically the conclusion I've come to at the moment, to wait until I can say with good confidence that I'm losing my hair. I really don't want to start doing anything to stop my hairloss before I'm sure it's happening.
 

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no problem happy to help but keep in mind im no expert so i would still ask around first on what to do want to make sure you go through all your avalible options first wether it indeed be to wait and see what happens or go for the pre-emptive strike and start on meds.
 

dietcola

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what to do: if you continue to be concerned about it, see your doctor or a dermatologist. they will examine your hair and tell you the truth of it.

what not to do: start treating hair loss "in case" you are going to lose hair, like what WOW was suggesting. just because you have a family history of losing hair, doesn't mean you should take medication with possible side effects "just in case".

just because you have balding males on both sides of your family, does not mean it will happen to you.
 
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