Baldness - how common is it?

Oknow

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Since noticing my own hairloss, I have become much more aware of it when walking the streets of any country. It seems as if guys in their mid twenties + are hit with it, its so common that I am beginning to think - sh*t I never realised.

Question here is: does every guy get hit with hairloss as they age? Either way, it is pretty scary seeing some of the mops out there.
 

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Oknow said:
its so common that I am beginning to think - sh*t I never realised.

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Very much worth remembering - I honestly dont think other people nearly obsess about how much hair others have as we do (until it happens to them,, of course).

Cant remember the stats but its about 30% of guys in their 30s and up to about 70% of men at retirement age.
 

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Nashville Hairline said:
Oknow said:
its so common that I am beginning to think - sh*t I never realised.

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Very much worth remembering - I honestly dont think other people nearly obsess about how much hair others have as we do (until it happens to them,, of course).

Cant remember the stats but its about 30% of guys in their 30s and up to about 70% of men at retirement age.

The figure must be higher then that , I swear every 1/2 guys I saw last night at least had a receeding hairline, or templer loss. They looked like they were in their 20/30s.
 

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Hmm I definitely think we have different definitions of loss ...OK, about 80% probably have a mature hairline by late 20s ...as for what average poeple call 'balding' - heavy recession and bald spot - I'd say its only 20% to 30%
 

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Oknow said:
Since noticing my own hairloss, I have become much more aware of it when walking the streets of any country. It seems as if guys in their mid twenties + are hit with it, its so common that I am beginning to think - sh*t I never realised.

Question here is: does every guy get hit with hairloss as they age? Either way, it is pretty scary seeing some of the mops out there.
Lateley Ive noticed a LOT more bald guys, especially in their 20's

I dont know if there are more now, or that I never noticed before.
Im in london by the way.
 

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Well... i think compared to 20-30 years ago, there are by far more bald men around, and i've asked some 'older' relatives of mine, they all agreed + men are geting bald in their 20s which is something "new" .. thats all i've managed to dig from these older folks.... cant back this with facts tho..
 

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Age related thinning and aggressive male pattern baldness are two different things but are hopelessly confused for eachother. Sure, most people without male pattern baldness do experience a relatively minor to moderate amount of hairloss as they age which is how those misleading figures originated... with the intention of making it seem like substantial hair loss is common but they don't account for those who go NW5 in their twenties which is far less common. Truth is young bald men are still in the minority despite whatever gradual trends occur. Look at it this way, are there enough bald people out there that it seems like full heads are rare? There you go.
 

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like said before - more baldies around than ever in our days,
sadly in my opinion - still not enough ;)

If science will take us to the right direction - maybe in the next decades balding will be a part of history.
 

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I have always thought that some of the hair-loss statistics are far too conservative compared to what I see in the real world. Men who suffer from complete baldness (NW5+) are still in the minority, but it seems like a perfect head of hair is very rare in men 23 and up. It is probably because I notice minor hair-loss that a normal person wouldn't see. But needless to say, a small amount of hair-loss in a young person can turn into bad news very quickly.

I am 21. I have 11 guys who I would consider close friends. All of them are under the age of 30. 3 of them have full heads of hair. Obviously, this may not be an accurate estimation of the general public. But it would be interesting if those of you who have a good eye for male pattern baldness surveyed some of the people around you. You might be surprised.

The bottom line: Normal people don't notice hair-loss like we do. And I'm guessing that the people who write up these male pattern hair-loss statistics don't either. My theory is that the vast majority of men in America experience some level of male pattern baldness in their life.
 

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Depends what you term as hairloss to me slight thinning or NW2 is nothing it should'nt be counted. This is just a normal adult head of hair.
But as for the full nw6/nw7 chrome dome, thats still rare especialy in men under the age of 40 I'd say its only about 20% who's follicles are completley non resistant to DHT.
Plenty of times in my late 20's I'd be in a room of about 10 - 15 other guys my age and be the only baldy. And even alot of 30 yr old NW3's will never have to experience what it is to fully lose everything ontop.
 

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s.a.f said:
Depends what you term as hairloss to me slight thinning or NW2 is nothing it should'nt be counted. This is just a normal adult head of hair.
But as for the full nw6/nw7 chrome dome, thats still rare especialy in men under the age of 40 I'd say its only about 20% who's follicles are completley non resistant to DHT.
Plenty of times in my late 20's I'd be in a room of about 10 - 15 other guys my age and be the only baldy. And even alot of 30 yr old NW3's will never have to experience what it is to fully lose everything ontop.

Fair play, with that said a NW3 looks pretty sh*t. You can't properly style your hair with one because you are far too recessed.
 

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s.a.f said:
Depends what you term as hairloss to me slight thinning or NW2 is nothing it should'nt be counted. This is just a normal adult head of hair.

What?!

I "term" hair-loss as people who are losing their hair. So I would consider nw2/thinning pattern as hair-loss, and so should some of the statistics. A nw2 pattern is normal in the sense that a lot of men have receding hairlines, but I hope you're not trying to say that a man with a nw2 patter hair-loss has hair genes that are completely unaffected by DHT?
 

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timbo said:
s.a.f said:
Depends what you term as hairloss to me slight thinning or NW2 is nothing it should'nt be counted. This is just a normal adult head of hair.

What?!

I "term" hair-loss as people who are losing their hair. So I would consider nw2/thinning pattern as hair-loss, and so should some of the statistics. A nw2 pattern is normal in the sense that a lot of men have receding hairlines, but I hope you're not trying to say that a man with a nw2 patter hair-loss has hair genes that are completely unaffected by DHT?

No but in terms of how the rest of the world sees them a NW2 is not bald or even balding. In the same way that a guy who is 5 - 10lbs overweight is not considered fat or obese by others.
BTW I never at any age had what would be described as a NW1 hairline I started out at NW2.
 

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Oknow said:
s.a.f said:
And even alot of 30 yr old NW3's will never have to experience what it is to fully lose everything ontop.

Fair play, with that said a NW3 looks pretty sh*t. You can't properly style your hair with one because you are far too recessed.

Well NW3 looks pretty sh*t for NW3's but ask the opinion of any NW6/7. They could happily live with it.
 

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s.a.f said:
Oknow said:
[quote="s.a.f":2w2chd78]And even alot of 30 yr old NW3's will never have to experience what it is to fully lose everything ontop.

Fair play, with that said a NW3 looks pretty sh*t. You can't properly style your hair with one because you are far too recessed.

Well NW3 looks pretty sh*t for NW3's but ask the opinion of any NW6/7. They could happily live with it.[/quote:2w2chd78]

Yes well a NW3 is better then a NW6/7. But still with it your styling options are severly limited, no doubt about it.

The whole point of having a good set of hair is so that you can style it. Otherwise you'll end up buzzing it, which is close to being bald.
 

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If you'd ever been bald you'd know that just having anything up there (as opposed to shiney smooth skin) is a blessing.
 

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Fair play, with that said a NW3 looks pretty sh*t. You can't properly style your hair with one because you are far too recessed.[/quote]

Well NW3 looks pretty sh*t for NW3's but ask the opinion of any NW6/7. They could happily live with it.[/quote]

Yes well a NW3 is better then a NW6/7. But still with it your styling options are severly limited, no doubt about it.

The whole point of having a good set of hair is so that you can style it. Otherwise you'll end up buzzing it, which is close to being bald.[/quote]

I disagree, even when I had a thick norwood 1 I buzzed my hair very short to a 2 or 3. Now I'm probably still norwood 2.5 or but I still buzz it all the way down. I never cared about having long flowing locks to style, I just liked the look of a straight line going across my forehead to frame my face. If I could keep a norwood 1 forever but had to buzz it and couldn't let it grow, I'd be happy with that.
 

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Gboy2k8 said:
like said before - more baldies around than ever in our days,
sadly in my opinion - still not enough ;)

If science will take us to the right direction - maybe in the next decades balding will be a part of history.
If you ask me it's diet related. We(North America or the world in general) eat more crap now than ever before.

Animal fats, fast food, fried this, fried that, fried sh*t, chemicals galore in your milk and various other snack food products, etc etc.

In the really olden days people used to be simple eaters, eating off the land. They'd have meat but not loads of it 2 times a day every day and it likely wasn't injected with any type of whatever garbage they hit these animals and their crops with these days. All these fake food snack products didn't exist or did but weren't laced with chemicals.

Think about it.
 

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^ Sorry but you are talking shite. This point has been discussed 1000's of times on here. How do you explain all the bald healthy eaters and the NW1's who eat nothing but big macs then?
Where is your (or any) evidence to show that bad eating leads to baldness?????
 
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