being NW2 is MUCH harder than being NW7

[whymewhynow]

Strange but true.

I shaved off my head to get the experience of a bald man (maybe this day will come so I'm going to be prepared). It felt so freeing.

Not having to worry about the wind or jumping into the sea. You hair stays the same because it's so short. I felt amazing. The world thing about hair loss is the uncertainty not the hair loss inherently. Men who are bald have certainty. NW2s like me don't.

Now I know one argument that will come "why don't you just shave off you hair"... well I can't , I don't want to, I want my hair. BUT if it did come to the point my time with hair is over I would accept it and move on. This is my advice to bald men , take it or leave it, but it's true and logical. I can think of a comparison: two men , one is completely paralyzed, the other is only paralyzed 30% but this partly paralyzed man his condition is slowly getting worse, maybe 1% more each year. Of course the partly paralyzed man should fight his condition. The fully paralyzed man should accept he is "aging" or getting older like hair loss sufferers...

I think bald men have a vanity problem, they are selfish for wanting what they can't have.... I know this my sound bad , bald men are not "evil" or "bad" they are just incorrect or egomaniac for wanting hair ( i don't know how to phrase this...). No doubt balding makes you look older and less sexy, how can this kill you??? Smile and move on from your loss. What purpose does a man who is already past NW6 thinking about hair still. Vanity my friend.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Phht. Just Phht. Not even going to dignify this one.

 

[XXXXXXX]

We've been robbed of our identity. We were crippled right from the get go and weren't even given an equal opportunity in life.

Why should the guy next to me be able to have a thick full head of hair and I cant ? What did we do to deserve this ?

Yeah sure shave your head and get on with life, but at the end of the day you still never forget what you lost.

 

[whymewhynow]

We've been robbed of our identity. We were crippled right from the get go and weren't even given an equal opportunity in life.

Why should the guy next to me be able to have a thick full head of hair and I cant ? What did we do to deserve this ?

Yeah sure shave your head and get on with life, but at the end of the day you still never forget what you lost.

I hope this is not true.

On the weekend -last Saturday- my friends and I went to a club. One of the guys i was with , we were joking around making fun at each other.... then he told me "you're going to go bald when I get older" (i don't think he knows about my receding hairline , just he thinks my hairline is high.). He kept poking me about it. I could tell he wasn't serous but he knew it would hurt me a bit.

People seem to treat balding as a trump card to prove their superiority. NW1 > Norwood 2> NW3 a human value hierarchy.

It's like people think they are better than you for having a better hairline , they didn't work for it.... why should they celebrate something that is genetic?

My response to uncomfortable man:
I have read your posts before so I know you're NW6 or close... well you still didn't answer my position: how is dwelling over your hair loss , something that can't be changed , how is that worth doing? Give up your lust for a perfect hairline.
Let's be real here you don't want to be "accepted' you are a ego driven...




I honestly envy bald men in some ways... their battle is over.... they can move on.... it must be so peaceful. It's guys like me who struggle-the NW2's- we deserve so much more consideration than we are given.

 

[uncomfortable man]

It's not vanity, a**h**. It's conformity. I don't want to stick out like a sore thumb and be looked down on for something beyond my control. I want to blend in with everyone else and look fuhking normal. Grasp that! You are so full of contradictions... you envy bald men, yet want to keep your hair. Screw you. If you were real you would get electrolysis all over your head so you can have your "peace".

I wish I could travel through the bandwith information highway and strangle you through your computer for being so awful.

 

[XXXXXXX]

^^

I love everything you post. :salut:

 

[whymewhynow]

It's not vanity, a**h**. It's conformity. I don't want to stick out like a sore thumb and be looked down on for something beyond my control. I want to blend in with everyone else and look fuhking normal. Grasp that! You are so full of contradictions... you envy bald men, yet want to keep your hair. Screw you. If you were real you would get electrolysis all over your head so you can have your "peace".

I wish I could travel through the bandwith information highway and strangle you through your computer for being so awful.

ok ok maybe you are different... the bald men I have seen all are arrogant and want hair for vain reasons.... why do you think in movies bald men are seen as the egomaniac? generalizations have a basis in reality...

I see we are not going to ever agree. I hope you do see my point and give my some sympathy , more than you have given in the past.
This is my view (take it or leave it):

On one side of the spectrum you have NW0 on the other side you have NW7.
To be a hair loss sufferer you need to have hair to lose. Bald men have no hair so they are not sufferers. They suffered. Past tense. See the difference? I hope you can move on one day, find you peace instead of chasing hair.... for me I can't im in the middle of a exhausting fight to keep my hair, I know you see me as a pussy who ins't in a bad position but I've been through so much now, whatever man. Good luck and all.

 

[DoneWithIt]

ok ok maybe you are different... the bald men I have seen all are arrogant and want hair for vain reasons.... why do you think in movies bald men are seen as the egomaniac? generalizations have a basis in reality...

I see we are not going to ever agree. I hope you do see my point and give my some sympathy , more than you have given in the past.
This is my view (take it or leave it):

On one side of the spectrum you have NW0 on the other side you have NW7.
To be a hair loss sufferer you need to have hair to lose. Bald men have no hair so they are not sufferers. They suffered. Past tense. See the difference? I hope you can move on one day, find you peace instead of chasing hair.... for me I can't im in the middle of a exhausting fight to keep my hair, I know you see me as a pussy who ins't in a bad position but I've been through so much now, whatever man. Good luck and all.

I. DON'T. EVEN.

I'm joining Uc.Man on this one, right now I wanna knock some sense into that head of yours!

1. If a bald man/woman is "arrogant" because he/she is bald/balding, it's NOT out of vain reasons you a**h**. It's because all they want in this world is to feel normal again, because they have given everything that they have to give to fight something that they completely lost against. It's depression, it's anxiety, it's exhaustion, it's life being slowly stolen from you day by day until there is nothing left.

2. Bald men are often villains in movies because, balding is ugly. Villains are evil, they are ugly. The hero almost always has a full head of hair. He's the knight in shining armour, the handsome one. It's how society works.

3. There is a BIG BIG BIG difference between being a buzzed NW2 and NW5+ !!! For one, NW2 or less have the OPTION of choosing their hairstyle. If they want it buzzed, great. Wanna grow back? Great. Aggressive male pattern baldness leaves you no choice and you need to keep it completely shaved down or else the horse show will appear. Now I'm a woman as some of you probably know but I can't believe you dare ask men for some sympathy when all you do is put those who are clearly suffering, down. You can't be a very good person. I think you are the one who needs to show some sympathy for other people who are less fortunate.

4. "Bald men have no hair so they are not sufferers" .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... !!!!!!!!!! .... .... .... .... !!!!!!!!!! oh lord. This. Makes. Me. Furious.
Some people including myself lost everything with the hair. I'm still fighting, so should I just look forward to the day I no longer have any hair left so I can stop suffering? I'm losing my identity. When it's all gone, should I just be happy then???? Prick. Get lost, seriously. Go live your life cause you clearly don't know what truly suffering bc of hair loss is, not even close. If you did, you wouldn't be saying these things. Come back when you're a NW5+ and tell us how happy you are with your life.

 

[DannyBoyy]

Again where DO you guys live? stick out like a sore thumb? what? you the only guys who are bald/balding or something?...here you cant go through the day without seeing a bald/balding guy so in that sense i AM blending in...and the fact you guys dont feel "normal" is a shame you seriously been hanging round the wrong people or something no MATTER how you look you are NEVER abnormal.

 

[VeprSuper]

Lot of anger here at the guys just starting to thin. Can't both be bad?

 

[DoneWithIt]

Lot of anger here at the guys just starting to thin. Can't both be bad?

of course, but he is telling that a bald man is not a sufferer cause he lost all his hair and that hair loss is a vain problem. to some it is not, to some it is devastating and life altering. he should just have some respect. also being nw2 is not much harder than nw7. i'm not nw7 but im gonna end up there someday, perhaps sooner rather than later. and i can tell you, the higher the norwood gets, the higher the anxiety and depression gets cause at nw2 there is still hope for the hair, but is slowly fades as Norwood rises.

 

[VeprSuper]

of course, but he is telling that a bald man is not a sufferer cause he lost all his hair and that hair loss is a vain problem. to some it is not, to some it is devastating and life altering. he should just have some respect. also being nw2 is not much harder than nw7. i'm not nw7 but im gonna end up there someday, perhaps sooner rather than later. and i can tell you, the higher the norwood gets, the higher the anxiety and depression gets cause at nw2 there is still hope for the hair, but is slowly fades as Norwood rises.

Excellent point. No one should belittle the suffering of others based on their own. It's poor form for sure.

 

[SDK]

It becomes your defining characteristic. That's the problem.

 

[talmoode]

Of course the partly paralyzed man should fight his condition. The fully paralyzed man should accept he is "aging" or getting older like hair loss sufferers...

omg....this doesn't make sense at all... being paralyzed has hardly anything to do with getting older! :thumbdown2:

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I hope this is not true.

On the weekend -last Saturday- my friends and I went to a club. One of the guys i was with , we were joking around making fun at each other.... then he told me "you're going to go bald when I get older" (i don't think he knows about my receding hairline , just he thinks my hairline is high.). He kept poking me about it. I could tell he wasn't serous but he knew it would hurt me a bit.

People seem to treat balding as a trump card to prove their superiority. NW1 > Norwood 2> NW3 a human value hierarchy.

It's like people think they are better than you for having a better hairline , they didn't work for it.... why should they celebrate something that is genetic?

I honestly envy bald men in some ways... their battle is over.... they can move on.... it must be so peaceful. It's guys like me who struggle-the NW2's- we deserve so much more consideration than we are given.

omg!! this doesn't make sense at all either!! so your thread is about being a NW2 much harder than being a NW7 but what you are saying is that people will treat others differently according to their hair loss, like NW1 > NW2 > NW3 > ......NW6 > NW7........right? so it's obvious that if you are a NW7, you will be treated like as s h i t as you can get and ... ... you are contradicting yoursel!!

 

[Quantum Cat]

@ this whole thread

 

[hellouser]

It's not vanity, a**h**. It's conformity. I don't want to stick out like a sore thumb and be looked down on for something beyond my control. I want to blend in with everyone else and look fuhking normal. Grasp that! You are so full of contradictions... you envy bald men, yet want to keep your hair. Screw you. If you were real you would get electrolysis all over your head so you can have your "peace".

I wish I could travel through the bandwith information highway and strangle you through your computer for being so awful.

It's neither vanity or conformity. It's RESPECT AND ACCEPTANCE.

If society didn't cripple, demonize and laugh at balding men, it wouldn't be a problem. SOCIETY is what needs to be cured of its incredible stupidity.

 

[slipy]

Worst Thread Ever. (the tittle alone sums up the ridiculousness of it)

op while you may have disstressing thoughts over the fear of loosing the rest of your hair, but tell me does anyone besides you or maybe close friends you've told about this notice your Norwood 2? do you have a hard time fitting in with your peers and feel alienated because of your minor hair loss?

as oppossed to someone with a horseshoe who continuously gets tortured by an external factor he has no chance to overpower (society), just because he doesn't meet the criteria set by this society on how a normal person should look like?

 

[DoctorHouse]

The perspective of a NW2 is never going to be the same as a NW6 or 7. This thread is no different than previous threads stating its so much harder for an older guy to accept hair loss than a younger guy. Bottom line is hair loss really sucks for anyone. The more hair loss you have the worse the situation. Like I said a million times, if someone judges you for your Norwood, those people are insecure about themselves.

Its like a NW1 short guy happy to see a NW5 tall guy and mocks him for it. Or a NW5 guy happy to see a fellow NW7 and says I am glad I am not that bad. I see a NW3 or worse and I get scared(INSECURE) that I could be heading that way and actually feel sorry for that person that he is suffering. However, I won't lie to you and say when I see someone extremely good looking with a great physique who is balding or bald, I feel more comfortable around them than someone who looks the same with perfect hair. Its all about our insecurity.

Obviously, the OP is basically saying he has to live in fear of going bald while the NW6/7 is saying he has to live in fear that people will mock them because they are bald. DoneWithIt is in a category of her own that is the worst case scenario but she can conceal it with a wig which most guys would be afraid to do. But if DoneWithIt chooses not to conceal it, its a much worse situation than a YOUNG bald man because balding young WOMEN is very rare. Yet from a perspective of a NW6/7 male they can easily argue from THEIR PERSPECTIVE(insecurity) that she can use a wig and look normal in public but a male wearing a wig is totally unacceptable by society.

My point is everyone has a perspective based on their experiences in life. For UCM, his balding is a curse. For the OP his NW2 is a burden that requires constant use of treatments to hold on to something he could lose at any time without notice. For the movie producer who choses to have a bald man play the villain, he may have been a bald man himself and feels he had always been treated like a villain so why not have a bald actor portray one in his movie. Or maybe the producer is not bald but feels the villain deserves to have a flaw like a bald head so he can be more believable because he became an angry villain due to his balding.

From my OWN personal perspective, having hair most of your life and seeing it go gray and thin out is hard to accept when I see people my age or older with better hair and not going gray. From my perspective, I missed out on the genetic hair lottery because I am INSECURE of what I do have. Unless you can accept YOURSELF as you are and as you age, you will never be happy. And just realize, NO ONE is better than anyone else with or without hair. So although I understand the perspective of the OP, creating threads like this in a forum full of INSECURE men or women losing hair or who have lost hair is no different than playing with fire and not expecting to get burned.

 

[DoneWithIt]

FAT PEOPLE THAT ACT HAPPY SECRETLY WISH THEY WERE FIT
BALD PEOPLE THAT ACT HAPPY SECRETLY WISH THEY HAD PERFECT BEAUTIFUL HAIR
SHORT PEOPLE THAT ACT HAPPY SECRETLY WISH THEY WERE 6'2''

SPOT THE PATTERN

Yep, except fat people can always lose weight.
Balding is much harder to fix, unless with a wig, and no one f*cking wants that.

 

[Exodus2011]

@ this whole thread

PERFECT response

considering the whole norwood 7 state of mr. stewart