Beyond The Normal Male Pattern. Retrograde A Clue For Us All

[EndlessPossibilities]

When it comes to hair loss most people seem to bald with the normal hair pattern. They end up with hair on the back and sides.

This isnt the case for many of us tho.

I myself dont just have the typical male pattern baldness but i have thinning on the nape i have thinning above my hears and in front of my ears.


I basically have what they call retrograde alopecia. My blood works is all fine. My thyroid is all fine.


I have seen many men have similar hair thinning patterns like me.

I stumbled upon this anatomical photo. The areas of white are tendon tissue and these are basically the exact areas i have happened to thin our in!

notice the small tendon material near the nape.


Its clear to me that tendon tissue and androgenic alopecia. Whatever happens to the tendon tissue or whatever the tendon tissues environment has some overlapping cause to our hairloss.

how else would you explain retrograde alopecia matching the white pattern perfectly.

@ChemHead @Squeegee 2.0 You guys wanna take a stab at this and guess why this happens? Does the tendon tissue thicken ? I know tendon tissue get stiffer as we get older. Seriously a mystery



just fyi I am not advocating for scalp tension rather the anatomy of tendon sheaths and their environment may have a profound influence on why hair is lost there.


simply put we could chalk it up to the fact that tendons usually have lower blood flow than muscles and thats why these areas are first to go as we age.

 

[EndlessPossibilities]

Check this anatomy photo out. I wonder if the emissary vein has anything to do with hair growth

 

[DAVAT]

Did you get anywhere with this line of thinking?

 

[EndlessPossibilities]

i did find documented cases of hypothyroid men with what appears to be retrograde alopecia. Hair loss above the ears.

 

[DAVAT]

So high prolactin is thought to cause hairloss and especially dupa or retrograde alopecia explaining why attacking dht doesn't work for some. Could this be the cause, were you tested for prolactin levels in your thyroid bloodwork

 

[EndlessPossibilities]

So high prolactin is thought to cause hairloss and especially dupa or retrograde alopecia explaining why attacking dht doesn't work for some. Could this be the cause, were you tested for prolactin levels in your thyroid bloodwork

I was bit tested for prolactin. However i can tell u even if hr thyroid blood work comes back nornal it does not mean ur good at all.

i found case studies of children with back hair. Once their hypothyroidism resolve back hair went away.

hairline. Temples.
Lower sides and back

Its likely their are two different causes with sumilar manifesting condtion of miniaturizing hair.

How bad is ur hairloss?

 

[DAVAT]

Nw3 but thin all over top, dry brittle hair, retrograde at the nape of neck and thin above ears. I can pull hairs out everything I run my fingers through hair.
Nothing has worked min finasteride dutasteride. 2mg dutasteride + 1mg finasteride combo did nothing. I'm thinking it must be thyroid or specifically prolactin although like you my panel came back with no issues

 

[EndlessPossibilities]

Nw3 but thin all over top, dry brittle hair, retrograde at the nape of neck and thin above ears. I can pull hairs out everything I run my fingers through hair.
Nothing has worked min finasteride dutasteride. 2mg dutasteride + 1mg finasteride combo did nothing. I'm thinking it must be thyroid or specifically prolactin although like you my panel came back with no issues

if duta didnt work. Then its highly unlikely to be Androgenetic Alopecia. Duta is so strong it can even lower total steroidgenesis output

What was ur TSH? Dry or oily skin?

 

[DAVAT]

3.05 mIU/L

Skin smooth not dry

 

[EndlessPossibilities]

3.05 mIU/L

Skin smooth not dry

Thats absolutely horrible. Tsh values. U want 1.5 and below. My tsh was .9 at my optimal and my health was excellent. When my tsh went to 4 something my hai started getting demolished. Absolutely destroyed. Shedding everywhere.

the doctor will tell u normal. Ya normal that u arent suffering from severe side effects. But other side effects.

however how old are u?

 

[DAVAT]

Thats absolutely horrible. Tsh values. U want 1.5 and below. My tsh was .9 at my optimal and my health was excellent. When my tsh went to 4 something my hai started getting demolished. Absolutely destroyed. Shedding everywhere.

the doctor will tell u normal. Ya normal that u arent suffering from severe side effects. But other side effects.

however how old are u?

Yeah as you say, the doctor marked that down as in normal range. I'm in my mid 30s.

How am I going about bringing that down?