Bryan, why is dutasteride weaker in the temples?

CCS

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I don't know if I saw two small hair loss studies with dutasteride, or if one of them was the abstract and one of them showed the details. Both said dutasteride doses of 0.5 and 2.5mg/day grow more hair total than proscar does, but it is mainly in the crown and top, and that these high doses grow less hair in the temples. And 0.1mg/day dutasteride is almost identical to proscar except for the high half life. Some people said it grows more in the sides, making the temples look thin, but I know in the studies they actually counted hairs instead of just judging cosmetically.

Since DHT is so much more potent than testosterone, and the high doses have a large scalp DHT inhibitioin, why would the temples regrow less hair with high dutasteride doses than with high finasteride doses? If I somehow make a topical that gives my scalp a high dose of Dutasteride, will I be hurting my hair line and temple hairs? This makes no sense. The difference I see is that dutasteride inhibits 5ar1 at these higher doses and has more testosterone, which is much weaker than DHT and would have been DHT if 5ar was not inhibited. I wonder of 20 mg finasteride would do for the temples, or where I could see a study comparing section by section hair growth of finasteride 0.2mg/day, 1 and 5mg/day.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
I don't know if I saw two small hair loss studies with dutasteride, or if one of them was the abstract and one of them showed the details.

There's only 1 study on dutasteride for male pattern baldness, and that was the "in-house" trial done by Glaxo. It was never published in any medical journal.

collegechemistrystudent said:
Both said dutasteride doses of 0.5 and 2.5mg/day grow more hair total than proscar does, but it is mainly in the crown and top, and that these high doses grow less hair in the temples.

There was no comment about temple hair in that study. At least, I'm about 99% sure of that! :)

collegechemistrystudent said:
And 0.1mg/day dutasteride is almost identical to proscar except for the high half life.

The half-life of dutasteride at 0.1 mg/day is on the order of maybe 2 to 3 days or so.

collegechemistrystudent said:
Since DHT is so much more potent than testosterone, and the high doses have a large scalp DHT inhibitioin, why would the temples regrow less hair with high dutasteride doses than with high finasteride doses?

I don't know that it does.

collegechemistrystudent said:
If I somehow make a topical that gives my scalp a high dose of Dutasteride, will I be hurting my hair line and temple hairs? This makes no sense.

I agree: it doesn't make any sense. I've heard those anecdotes, too, about dutasteride harming the front hairline of some users, but I don't know what to make of them.

Bryan
 

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I wish I had saved the link. I saw the tables and charts on my computer screen. lots and lots of raw data. i think the study was done in a different country, but i don't know where. there were about 50 or more participants. i don't know if it was fake, or who would have a motive to fund a study for a drug that is not theirs. i'll try to find it again.
 

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CCS, are you saying that Finasteride is better for the temples and hairline than Dutasteride, and if so why do you think that would be?
 

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I gave up trying to find it a while ago. Just copy and past any sentence or fraction of one from this post into google and you will see how hopelessly weak google is. That being the case, there is no way I'll find that study except by a stroke of pure luck.

That said, you guys should just go with Bryan's advice. As for me, I see my lower dutasteride dose as a way of saving money so I can pay for RU and other topicals.
 
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