Cassin: How is Dr. Lee's minoxidil Working For You?

Logic1

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1.) How is Dr. Lee's minoxidil working for you and why did you choose to use his solution opposed to the others out there?

2.) How long does one bottle last you?

3.) How long does the minoxidil take to dry for you and how long after applying minoxidil are you able to style your hair with hair product?

4.) How does Dr. Lee's minoxidil leave your hair looking opposed to other branks such as Kirkland?

5.) Any positive results to post?

6.) Any side effects and if so how long were you on the treatment before you noticed?

7.) Are you using his 500 Standard 5% minoxidil?

8.) Why is his formula faster drying then others...is it because it has less PPG and what the hell is the purpose of PPG anyways?


Thanks man!
 

Cassin

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Logic1 said:
1.) How is Dr. Lee's minoxidil working for you and why did you choose to use his solution opposed to the others out there?

This is kind of a tough question to answer.

It is working as much as anyone can expect. Regrow a bit, help thicken a bit and help maintain. It is hard to know for sure exactly what it is doing since I am also using Copper-Peptides and Finasteride but I have zero doubt it is effectively helping me.

I tried Rogaine and 2 other generics and I am now using Dr Lees because I had a severe negative reaction to standard minoxidil. It caused me massive itching to the point my scalp was in pain all day. Dr Lees has much less PPG (propylene glycol ) so it drastically reduced my irritation. Either I am allergic to PPG or my scalp doesn't like the 4 hour long exposure to the product. I am guessing it is simply the PPG.

I am ultra sensitive to anything that goes into my body so typically anything I take will work but with a few of the typical side effects.

Logic1 said:
2.) How long does one bottle last you?

The bottles are slightly bigger than regular bottles by one or two mls. But I have been using Minoxidil long enough to where I feel I can use it once a day effectively so they last me about 2 months.

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3.) How long does the minoxidil take to dry for you and how long after applying minoxidil are you able to style your hair with hair product?

10 to 15 minutes. My hair is about 1 inch long so I can style it right after it is dry.

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4.) How does Dr. Lee's minoxidil leave your hair looking opposed to other branks such as Kirkland?

Standard Minoxidil left white powdery residue on my scalp and hair. Most people mistake this for dandruff.

Dr Lees will sometimes leave a slight residue but it is easily wiped off.

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5.) Any positive results to post?

See answer 1.

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6.) Any side effects and if so how long were you on the treatment before you noticed?

Dr Lees or Standard Minoxidil?

Dr Lees; Very very small. Sometimes my scalp will still get a slight itch. It's no big deal.

Standard Minoxidil; Right away, about one or two weeks.

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7.) Are you using his 500 Standard 5% minoxidil?

Yes. As much as I like Dr Lees, I would maybe try someone elses brand were they to come out with a similar product. But it's so cheap maybe it wouldn't be worth the risk.

I really wish another company would make a similar product!

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78.) Why is his formula faster drying then others...is it because it has less PPG and what the hell is the purpose of PPG anyways?

I believe it is dual purpose. A preservative and it moisturizes the scalp.

Dr Lees has much less PPG and much more alcohol. Bryan posted a story once that showed higher levels of alcohol make a better delivery vehicle for the minoxidil so I believe Dr Lees is a superior product.


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Thanks man!

No problem. Let me know if you need anything else.
 

ANDREW_J_I

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i may get on this as its fast drying.
 

techprof

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andrew,
you might want to try the rogain foam. dries faster than Lee's minoxidil
 

Logic1

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Thanks Cassin! That was a ton of useful information and I appreciate the detailed replies.

As far as more questions...Sometiems I'm skeptical of Dr. Lee....especially with how he's constantly pushing his most expensive Xandrox solution it seems to everyone that inquires about hair loss with him...

Have you ever recieved your shipment of his 500 minoxidil 5% and wondered if you got exactly what you paid for or perhaps a watered down solution so taht he can cut some corners and save money?

How does he create his solutions...do you konw if he creates everything he sells in his own lab by himself?

Thanks
 

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Logic1 said:
Thanks Cassin! That was a ton of useful information and I appreciate the detailed replies.

As far as more questions...Sometiems I'm skeptical of Dr. Lee....especially with how he's constantly pushing his most expensive Xandrox solution it seems to everyone that inquires about hair loss with him...

Have you ever recieved your shipment of his 500 minoxidil 5% and wondered if you got exactly what you paid for or perhaps a watered down solution so taht he can cut some corners and save money?

How does he create his solutions...do you konw if he creates everything he sells in his own lab by himself?

Thanks

I question Dr Lee myself as far as his Xandrox solutions are concerned (ie, the claim that azelaic acid inhibits DHT by almost 100%), but I in no way think he would purposely sell items that don't contain exactly what they are supposed to. Granted, he is a businessman to the core, but he is also a well respected professional in the hair loss field and I doubt he would jeopardize that by selling less than adequate products. I believe his #500 minoxidil is the best I've used. It's at least as effective as the commercial brands and definitely more cosmetically acceptable. I'm not sure about how he produces his products, but it is claimed that he bottles each order himself.
 

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Logic1 said:
As far as more questions...Sometiems I'm skeptical of Dr. Lee....especially with how he's constantly pushing his most expensive Xandrox solution it seems to everyone that inquires about hair loss with him...

I have spoken to Dr Lee and the new guy Dr. Clifford (who I think is taking over) a few times times and he truely believes his product is effective and useful, so you can't fault him for talking about it.

I am skeptical of Xandrox's complete effectiveness to, I wish there wore more studies. But think on this, there is one or two studies on it's effectiveness. Yes it was done in a test tube and not on humans, Bryan :).

Click here for a study



Also, people complain about products all the time and I read a lot of people using it and I really haven't seen every many people complain about anything besides the price. I haven't seen very many " Xandrox doesn't work" threads at all and I have looked on a lot of forums. That doesn't prove it works, but it helps.

Besides, I am sure he gets quite a bit of positive feed back from his customers.

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Have you ever recieved your shipment of his 500 minoxidil 5% and wondered if you got exactly what you paid for or perhaps a watered down solution so taht he can cut some corners and save money?

Absolutely not. This stuff is not that expensive to make as nothing in it is patented and hard to come buy. Dr Lee is an honest businessman in my opinion and I have been using his product (item #500) for a couple of years, sure critics can throw in misguided but not crooked. He makes more money by being honest as a good word passed along sells much more than dilluting products. Besides, he has been around for a long time, 20 years! He would have been busted a 100 times over by now if he did that. You can last that long if you screw your customers.


Logic1 said:
How does he create his solutions...do you konw if he creates everything he sells in his own lab by himself?

He has a manufacturer that does it for him I believe. I have no idea if he owns them but I am sure he oversees quality control and it is close to his office.


There are three main people who make hairloss treatments outside of Pfizer and Merk who over the years who people on these sites have latched onto. They are all doctors and all have their own hair loss products. They have all been in the business a LONG time. I would love to see more studies on all of their products, but they at least have some proof via studies. I wouldn't ever use a product unless their is science to back it up.

Dr Lee; The maker of Xandrox
http://www.regrowth.com

Dr Pickart; The maker of folligen
He deals with much much more than hair loss products but has a few products.
http://www.skinbiology.com/

Dr Proctor; The maker of Proxiphen
http://www.drproctor.com/

Anyway, your skeptical, thats a good thing...stay that way about everything with hair loss products. Make sure you see studies on the products and question everything.
 

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Cassin said:
I am skeptical of Xandrox's complete effectiveness to, I wish there wore more studies. But think on this, there is one or two studies on it's effectiveness. Yes it was done in a test tube and not on humans, Bryan :).

Click here for a study

Just that one, actually.

Of course, there are also other studies on topical azelaic acid which didn't directly measure DHT production, but they suggest that androgens weren't being affected.

Bryan
 

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:D
 

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If anyone were to use Lee's products, I would suggest the regular minoxidil (#500) and the minoxidil without ppg (#530 or 540 I believe) only. These products only as muc as rogaine and cost more then generics.

My guess and belief is that rogaine foam will replace #500 for the AM application for may users.
 
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