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Right guys don't get me wrong, balding sucks. Despite being a NW1 going to 2, I am shitly scared just as you all are, and I really hope that I do not suffer from an aggressive form of male pattern baldness until a much later date in life. And by then I hope HM comes out!

Now with that in mind, I would say pre hairloss I was pretty good looking, a juvanile hairline REALLY helped me to instantly attract girls. Literally back in the day, women approach me without any work, or tried and snog me drunk. Often I would be complimented by being called "handsome", part of that was probably because of the way my hair framed my face perfectly. I looked a bit like David Scwimmer. It is only now with a bit of recession I have realised it has become a lot harder (and my recession isn't even bad then say UM). I get far less compliments for example, the only one I get now is "you are a charmer" - nothing about my looks.

Now, with that said - for a long while I had trouble getting laid in my earlier years despite my chances...I really was that pathetic, I literally turned down girls asking to sit on my lap, or asking me to kiss me because I felt "uncomfortable" - to give you a rough idea of how much of a retard I was. (Deeply regret all the f*** ups till this day) Recently though, the tables seem to be turning (I would say the last 6 months) which incidently coincides with my hairloss. I got laid, have girls flirting with me, get girls qualifying themselves to me, making much of an effort etc etc. I would say despite having a lot more to learn, I am getting better with women from experience and practice. Having to rely on my personality a lot more then before has forced me to become better. This has also forced me to be more clever socially, as I am now a big fan of reverse psychology, by playing their game back with them. Incidently, from being a dork 2 years ago, I am now percieved as a guy that is "cool" and "classy" in my social circles.

Anyway where am I going with this:-

I am starting to wonder if looks is everything. For example a scienario which we all can relate too: Have you ever been in a situation where for example you meet a girl that you are NOT initially attracted too, but once you get to know her she turns into a girl that you end up thinking to yourself that "yeah you would consider dating?", simply because you both just get along really really well? Well who says it cannot happen the other way round?

This has happened to me a sh*t load of times. Bringing this back to myself, chicks treat me differently these days - and I am starting to wonder if it is for the same reason, because the way I convey myself - with the ones that don't find me attractive initally? So with that in mind, maybe it could be the same deal with you guys, if you worked on being sexy in terms of the way you convey yourself out there? By sexy that doesn't mean talking random BS, it means knowing when to flirt, knowing when to be funny, able to dance; plus showing people what makes you a unique individual - as opposed to someone faking it maybe that would help. In other the words the way you convey yourself is not manufactured, the way you flirt/sense of humour and your sensitive side is how you would do it.

Maybe if a girl sees that, it could knock us all up by 5 points on the attraction scale. And in the same way you'll find yourself attracted to a girl that you wouldn't be into initially prior to getting to know her, could work in your favour with girls after they get to know you - once they feel that connection.

Anyway some food for thought. Will be interesting to hear your responses.
 

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"NW1 going on NW2" - what the hell does that even mean? No hair loss to speak of, but unnecessary worrying that you might someday develop a mature hairline? The horror!

Anyway, your entire post is basically stating the obvious. Of course personality has a lot to do with attraction - particularly from a female's point of view. I'd put personality about third in terms of importance, though - definitely after status (money, how other people view/respect you) and looks. Personality can only get you so far. They say girls make up their minds within the first 5 minutes of meeting a guy whether or not they will ever f*** him, and generally personality doesn't come into play that quickly.

It's more......is this guy an alpha male or is he very physically attractive. At least that's how it is to attractive females with lots of options.
 

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Probably depends on the ages of the women but I'd say it comes down to this:

Looks can get a girl instantly while personality can win over a girl over a much longer period of time.

Also got to agree with T+T NW1 - NW2 !?! You poor bugger! :smack:
 

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It's charm + good looks that gets them into bed, and sometimes - the charm. One night when I was out drinking downtown there was this girl that was so taken with me that she just walked up to me and told me I was beautiful. Mind u I had my trusty beanie on but she was acting like puddy in my hands so we went back to her place and we did the full monty. When it came down to it I turned the lights down REAL low and bent her over so she couldn't see my head. After I came I'm pretty sure she could tell I was bald and she hastend me out so quickly saying something like "Now get going before I start day dreaming about you." but in a sarcastic tone. None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man. :$ If I didn't have my beanie on that night chances are she would have ruled me out.
 

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Every now and then we get a deluded norwoder wondering from the "success stories" section (where everyone praise finasteride for giving them back their full heads of hair after suffering from a devastating baldness at the rate of nw0-1) into the impact section...

Oknow, get the f*** back to the success stories, and i wanna see your "wisdom" after you hit nw4.....

uncomfortable man said:
None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man.
I thought you are more intelligent then that... :shakehead:
 

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uncomfortable man said:
It's charm + good looks that gets them into bed, and sometimes - the charm. One night when I was out drinking downtown there was this girl that was so taken with me that she just walked up to me and told me I was beautiful. Mind u I had my trusty beanie on but she was acting like puddy in my hands so we went back to her place and we did the full monty. When it came down to it I turned the lights down REAL low and bent her over so she couldn't see my head. After I came I'm pretty sure she could tell I was bald and she hastend me out so quickly saying something like "Now get going before I start day dreaming about you." but in a sarcastic tone. None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man. :$ If I didn't have my beanie on that night chances are she would have ruled me out.

Interesting.

I am just wondering UCMan, has it ever occured to you that maybe she clocked on that you were bald just by the fact that you were wearing a beanie religiously?
 

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uncomfortable man said:
It's charm + good looks that gets them into bed, and sometimes - the charm. One night when I was out drinking downtown there was this girl that was so taken with me that she just walked up to me and told me I was beautiful. Mind u I had my trusty beanie on but she was acting like puddy in my hands so we went back to her place and we did the full monty. When it came down to it I turned the lights down REAL low and bent her over so she couldn't see my head. After I came I'm pretty sure she could tell I was bald and she hastend me out so quickly saying something like "Now get going before I start day dreaming about you." but in a sarcastic tone. None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man. :$ If I didn't have my beanie on that night chances are she would have ruled me out.

my God..you're so full of sh*t....the truth is...you HAVE NO CLUE what she was thinking, or if she noticed you were bald but you state it as a f*****g fact that "she was ashamed to have slept with a bald man." The truth is...the MIGHT NOT have cared either way, but you don't actually know. Stop trying to make factual statement out of completely subjective things.

You also don't take into account that the reason you get a bad reaction (if in fact you ever do) from women you meet after they see you're bald when you had a hat on before is because it is a tell-tale sign of insecurity if they always saw you with a hat before.

Seriously U-man...I realize now nothing I say will change your mind...the sad fact is, you have BDD severely and your views are so distorted. You have the perfect excuse not to succeed in life because your problem is one that you can't control or fix...so all the responsibility is taken away from YOU.

Honestly..if you had a realistic outlook as to why you don't wanna be bald (such as...I feel older and that my youth is gone etc) then that would be one thing. But the fact is, your "beef with bald" is that you literally think most people you see are staring at you and mocking you EVERYWHERE you go as if you were some total reject and nothing you can do will change their minds about you. That shows that you are not a psychologically sound human being at this point in your life...THAT is the f*****g issue you should be addressing. And I say that out of concern...because if you have BDD then even surgery won't fix your problems. It is a SEVERE psychological disorder that affects people the same way...even really beautiful people with BDD think they are hideous and that people are mocking them everywhere they go. You aren't different! Its really sad you don't see where you should be trying to fix your actual problem...baldness is a mild social handicap at worst....with your mindset...it is the be all and end all of existence. See the discrepancy?
 

uncomfortable man

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I've never seen her before that night so there was no way for her to assume I was hiding my baldness. And I'm sorry Qball, I forgot that you were there with me in the same room that night while I was f*****g her so you already know what really happened. :shakehead:
 

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uncomfortable man said:
I've never seen her before that night so there was no way for her to assume I was hiding my baldness. And I'm sorry Qball, I forgot that you were there with me in the same room that night while I was f****ing her so you already know what really happened. :shakehead:

i love how UM b****s about his shitty life and that people shun him for being bald, yet still takes home random skanks like it's no big deal.

ya, your life sounds really shitty (not).
 

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uncomfortable man said:
I've never seen her before that night so there was no way for her to assume I was hiding my baldness. And I'm sorry Qball, I forgot that you were there with me in the same room that night while I was f****ing her so you already know what really happened. :shakehead:

haha..Ok smartass....from what YOU SAID about the situation, you made it seem like she may not have even noticed...and that she didn't say anything directly about you being bald....you just merely ASSUME she noticed, convinced yourself she was acting weird and being sarcastic, and then felt embarassed...the point is, you're completely inferring things based on a hunch and then solely attributing it to baldness.

My point is...since your reality is skewed towards thinking people are always thinking negatively of you because you're bald...you're obviously going to interpret things that way even if they're not the truth. It COULD be the truth...or it could completely false but you have no way of knowing for sure...yet you act like its a FACT that everything bad that happens to you is because of your hair....
 

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uncomfortable man said:
It's charm + good looks that gets them into bed, and sometimes - the charm. One night when I was out drinking downtown there was this girl that was so taken with me that she just walked up to me and told me I was beautiful. Mind u I had my trusty beanie on but she was acting like puddy in my hands so we went back to her place and we did the full monty. When it came down to it I turned the lights down REAL low and bent her over so she couldn't see my head. After I came I'm pretty sure she could tell I was bald and she hastend me out so quickly saying something like "Now get going before I start day dreaming about you." but in a sarcastic tone. None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man. :$ If I didn't have my beanie on that night chances are she would have ruled me out.

C'mon at what point during the procedings did you take off the beanie? Even if it was pitch black she would've instantly realised that you did'nt have hair. And I'd say thay if you see any guy wearing a beanie you know theres a high chance that he has hairloss, most of the skater types who wear them will have flowing locks protruding from underneath.
It sounds to me from the way she approached you like she was just horny that night and wanted a f*** and bald or not when she got it she did'nt want the hassle of the awkward convo afterwards. Or if it went rapidly downhill after you came maybe you just did'nt hit the right spot? :whistle:
This story is the equivilent of a woman with small tits taking off her push up bra and saying "afterwards he felt embarrassed and betrayed that he had just slept with a small breasted woman".
Surely if it bothered her that much she would've gone for a guy not wearing a hat (just to be sure).
 

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s.a.f said:
[quote="uncomfortable man":bk2bfaja]It's charm + good looks that gets them into bed, and sometimes - the charm. One night when I was out drinking downtown there was this girl that was so taken with me that she just walked up to me and told me I was beautiful. Mind u I had my trusty beanie on but she was acting like puddy in my hands so we went back to her place and we did the full monty. When it came down to it I turned the lights down REAL low and bent her over so she couldn't see my head. After I came I'm pretty sure she could tell I was bald and she hastend me out so quickly saying something like "Now get going before I start day dreaming about you." but in a sarcastic tone. None the less she felt embarrassed and betrayed that she had just slept with a bald man. :$ If I didn't have my beanie on that night chances are she would have ruled me out.

C'mon at what point during the procedings did you take off the beanie? Even if it was pitch black she would've instantly realised that you did'nt have hair. And I'd say thay if you see any guy wearing a beanie you know theres a high chance that he has hairloss, most of the skater types who wear them will have flowing locks protruding from underneath.
It sounds to me from the way she approached you like she was just horny that night and wanted a f*ck and bald or not when she got it she did'nt want the hassle of the awkward convo afterwards. Or if it went rapidly downhill after you came maybe you just did'nt hit the right spot? :whistle:
This story is the equivilent of a woman with small tits taking off her push up bra and saying "afterwards he felt embarrassed and betrayed that he had just slept with a small breasted woman".
Surely if it bothered her that much she would've gone for a guy not wearing a hat (just to be sure).[/quote:bk2bfaja]

lol this forum makes me laugh. Best on the net. To add UCman she probably called you beautiful because of your actual physical features - as opposed to the beanie on your head.
 
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