Im having great success with this topical. Been on it three months and imp rovement evident after two months. It is plant and vitamin based, the type of product that most people wouldn't take a second look at. The swirl on the crown has narrowed and improvement in front as well. From 2000-late 2005 I struck out with the copper peptides, spironolactone, nano/proxiphen, propecia (11 month), and others. They have five products on their site that comprise their kit, Im just buying the shampoo, spray conditioner and, root stimulator. Reasonably priced. Its the only product Im using