dad's story - (31 years old, virgin, hair loss)

[dad]

Guys,

I am shaking as I write this, so now on with my story and what I am thinking of as my next step.

I am 31 and still a virgin. I am depressed and moved away from home for various reasons when I was a teenager. I have a well paying and very stable job, and other then hairloss that triggers my depression my health is perfect. Maybe that last sentence didnt make all that much sense, but you guys know what I mean. My body is in tip-top shape, he77 without the gym/work, I would never leave my house. I do not need to tan, as my skin is already tan. You guys get the point, I have been a lurker for a long time, so there is no need to tell me to put on muscle and get a tan.

Since 24 I have been battling male pattern baldness, I started with Propecia and then after 3 yrs I got on Avodart. Also, I have been using Rogaine since 26. I will not talk negative about these products, as they maintained and got me through the 7+ yrs. I am a NW3/4 (if you want to use the chart). Within the last year i started to Fusion my head because products only prolong the battle, they do not cure male pattern baldness. What a good feeling it is to hide hairloss through the razor; however, now I am losing the stuble battle and the shiny shadow is taking over, good ol' ring around the head.

Hopefully I didnt lose anyone yet. If curiousity kicks in guys, let me know, and I will go deeper into my personal life, but for now, here is where I need some of your guys opinions. Yes, some of you guys are actually very knowlegable(sp?)
I have been researching a drug called CYPROSTAT. I can honestly say, the side effects do not scare me, other then "b**ch Tits". It seems this drug has reversed hairloss in the men who have taken it. Even though they were not taking it for that specific reason.
Okay, here is where I start to breakdown guys...

I do not plan on having sex anytime soon(he77, I went 31 yrs, so whats another 31), or ever even reproducing, so, why am I not a candidate to take this drug now? What ever happened to living for today and not thinking about the tomorrow. If I am not happy today, tomorrow will not be any better, as I am batteling a fight that I now know I will not win, male pattern baldness. I do not want to look good to get a girlfriend or so to say, I want to look good for MYSELF! Hair does make a drastic imporvement on how an indivdual looks and feels. Hair can overcome so many of our physical flawes. I feel so lost without being able to style my hair that it makes me sick.

What makes it worse today is society mocks it. I look at the TV, and thats all you see now is a commercial mocking bald men or looking at a Bosley or MHR commercial. It feels like being bald is unacceptable to society, so, if that is the case, why doesnt society and technology give us a choice by supplying us with a CURE? The only options we have are socially unacceptable.

hair transplant= you need enough donor hair, and then MAYBE we can operate and it will look natural

Piece= yeah, let anyone find out you are wearing one and your whole life will come crashing down. if this wasnt the case, all our so called hero celebrities would come clean and say they are wearing one.

Medicine= like I said earlier, it only prolongs our dilemma, it is not a cure

HM= keep counting our blessings

I feel for all you guys that are younger then me, I can only imagine what some of you are going through. I would like to say it gets easier as you get older, but it doesnt. Some of us accept it better then others, some of you will end up with a blazing girl that doesnt care about male pattern baldness, and you will think she was your cure, some wont, and will continue to live like I do, in hoping you can once again look into that mirror and see the locks you once had and actually be able to style your hair the way you use to, and be able to do it to male YOU feel better about yourself.
Ring around the head just doesnt look right, honestly. That shadow looks rediculous.

Okay, do I feel better? Good question......NOT
So can you guys look into Cyprostat and provide me with any positive/ negative feedback.

Feel free to continue to keep in touch, I will try and post here more often.

 

[Guest]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

From Inhouse's site:

What is Androcur commonly prescribed for?

In most countries Androcur (cyproterone acetate) can only been prescribed by a medical specialist.

Androcur or cyproterone acetate is an anti-androgen which is prescribed to treat androgen dependant conditions.

Cyproterone acetate is used for women who have too much androgen production and/or seem to be overly sensitive to androgen activity in their bodies. Cyproterone acetate is used for acne and/or overactive oil glands and hirsutism as well as androgen dependent hair loss.

In men, cyproterone acetate is used for prostate cancer treatment, to reduce sex drive in men, for the treatment of sexual aggression, and for use by male to female transsexuals in conjucntion with estrogen supplements.
What are the effects of taking Androcur?

Androcur is an antiandrogenic hormone preparation. It inhibits the influence of androgens which are also produced - to a slight extent- in the female organism, and also exerts a progestational and antigonadotrophic effect.

Cyproterone acetate inhibits competitively the effect of androgens at androgen-dependent target organs, e.g. it shields the prostate from the effect of androgens originating from the gonads and/or the adrenal cortex.

In the man, under treatment with Androcur, sexual drive and potency are reduced and gonadal function is inhibited. These changes are reversible following discontinuation of the therapy.

In the woman, hirsuitism is reduced, but also androgen-dependent alopecia and elevated sebaceous gland function are reduced. During treatment, ovarian function is reduced.
Dosage

The extreme range of dosage comes from input that some people find 10mg/wk sufficient to induce total impotence, and yet others take as much as 200mg/day with no obvious short-term adverse effects. Given this range, it would seem prudent to start on the low side and work your way up only if necessary. More than 100mg/day is generally considered excessive.

There are some reports of depression when the dosage is too high for a given individual. There appears to be a causal relationship because the depression evidently disappeared as soon as the dosage was reduced, according to those reports.

 

[dad]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

Thanks JayMan, but like I said, I have been doing all the internet research, now I wanted your guys opinions. You obviously have read my post, so how do you guys feel about this drug? Basically, I guess what I am asking is, am I crazy for looking along these lines or is this, hey, not a bad find.
Do any of you guys know anybody on this drug, or similar drug? How much better/worse is it actually from Avodart or Propecia?

Thank you

 

[Guest]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

It's way more dangerous than Avodart or Propecia in my opinion

I don't think you'd find a Doctor in the country willing to prescribe it. You are blocking testosterone by taking it for christ's sake! This is what makes you a man! The other ones block dihydrotestosterone which is not really necessary in the body after pubrety but testosterone is huge

 

[DoctorHouse]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

I think you are doing all you can do for your situation. After reading what Jayman posted about the drug, I personally would not take it. I would just stick with your treatments. If your hair loss is really having a dramatic impact on your life and you are losing self confidence you might want to seek some professional help. I understand how you feel as society and the media puts a big emphasis on looks more now than ever before. My only suggestion is to try to keep yourself occupied with things that will keep your mind off your hair. I know its hard to do because I myself try every day too but as long as there is a mirror around its hard not too look and get that sick feeling in the stomach that all the hairs I am fighting to keep maybe lost forever.

 

[dad]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

By doing the internet research, you are correct, (no Dr. in America can prescribe it or only a small % can and do), but whatever the case, they do sell it oversees and ship to America.

I understand the whole test making you a man comment, but why then do they use it for Prostate cancer? I am only playing devils advocate here. Also, it says once discontinued, your system will go back to normal.

I came across this drug and actually didnt think it was that bad. Maybe I think this way because I dont live my life around thinking who will be the next girl I will f***k. I have 1 masters degree and working on another one, just because Im bored. I love looking at women, but thats all I do. I do not have the desire to get involved with a women and maybe thats why I am considering this drug. So where is all my test when I think along those lines?

I am just so depressed and scared right now my head hurts from all this.

 

[Guest]

Re: I very seldom post here, but...

they use it for prosttae cancer because prostate cancer is very serious and they need to take care of it. hair loss is nowhere near that serious

 

[RaginDemon]

I took my time reading your story dude, I personally don't think it's a good idea. I mean it will probabily safe your hair, but you will also go through dramatic body changes that you do not desire, such as man boobs.

 

[dad]

So, I went onto a Eunuch forum and talked to some of them. I am in contact directly with about 2 individuals that have taken this drug, and they say it is no joke. They think I am crazy for wanting to take it for the reasons I do.
Sadly, I am still up in the air on it. Maybe it is just the depression talking, but, I feel I need to do something.

Propecia and Avodart ran their course on me, and they are no longer affective for me. So other then this, my next step is to man up and deal with it, which I am having a hard to doing.

I went to go see a couple of hair transplant Drs. None of them want to operate on me because of my age. I actually apreciate their honesty. They say they would do what they could for my front, but as far as my crown, I am screwed right now.

 

[RaginDemon]

So, I went onto a Eunuch forum and talked to some of them. I am in contact directly with about 2 individuals that have taken this drug, and they say it is no joke. They think I am crazy for wanting to take it for the reasons I do.
Sadly, I am still up in the air on it. Maybe it is just the depression talking, but, I feel I need to do something.

Propecia and Avodart ran their course on me, and they are no longer affective for me. So other then this, my next step is to man up and deal with it, which I am having a hard to doing.

I went to go see a couple of hair transplant Drs. None of them want to operate on me because of my age. I actually apreciate their honesty. They say they would do what they could for my front, but as far as my crown, I am screwed right now.

you are 31 and they dont want to give you a hair transplant? so is your hair loss relatively stablized?

 

[dad]

It has been getting thinner over the last couple of months. You can definatly see the horseshoe pattern. I went to 1 private Dr, and I even went to Bosley and they both said right now I am not a good candidate. Maybe because I shave my head? I dont know the reason, they just told me to wait until at least 35.

I refuse to grow my hair out because I look like a total jacka$$. They wanted me to grow it longer, and I said why? You can see the pattern now, if they cants see it they shouldnt be in buisness.

 

[RaginDemon]

It has been getting thinner over the last couple of months. You can definatly see the horseshoe pattern. I went to 1 private Dr, and I even went to Bosley and they both said right now I am not a good candidate. Maybe because I shave my head? I dont know the reason, they just told me to wait until at least 35.

I refuse to grow my hair out because I look like a total jacka$$. They wanted me to grow it longer, and I said why? You can see the pattern now, if they cants see it they shouldnt be in buisness.

Just do what they told you, I am suprised they were actually being very ethical.

 

[ghg]

Dude, if you have already bic'ed your head your over half-way through this sh*t! Most people can't even do that. I'm 25 and so thin on top that I can't even try and grow my hair anymore... I just have to keep it very short.

 

[DoctorHouse]

dad, get a hair piece like Matty McC, its got to be pretty good if people still are trying to figure out if its his real hair or a piece.

 

[PersonGuy]

wait, if you're a virgin why do you call yourself "dad." I'm not trying to be a dick I'm actually curious.

 

[RaginDemon]

wait, if you're a virgin why do you call yourself "dad." I'm not trying to be a dick I'm actually curious.

lol