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garthbrooks

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I've seen lots of people mention that they don't think diet can really help hairloss in any way, but there's studies such as this one that show that certain diets can lower testosterone. if testosterone is lowered then won't that result in a lower amount of DHT?



Over the past few years, there has been growing evidence of a link between high levels of testosterone and the risk for developing prostate cancer. Recently, scientists at the University at Buffalo contributed to this area of research when they found that plant-based fats may reduce the levels of testosterone in the blood, as well as certain enzymes that metabolize testosterone into more active forms.
  Specifically, the scientists discovered that by feeding rats a diet rich in phytosterols-the type of fat found in plants-they were able to reduce testosterone in the bloodstream by 33 percent.
  In addition, they found that the levels of two enzymes, 5-alpha reductase and aromatase, were reduced by 44 percent and 55 percent, respectively, which is significant because these enzymes metabolize testosterone into end-products that also are implicated in the development of prostate cancer.
  The study was led by Atif Awad, PhD, head of the nutrition program in UB's Department of Physical Therapy, Exercise and Nutrition Science, whose work was supported by a $45,000 grant from the Allen Foundation. Awad and his colleagues have been trying to understand the mechanisms responsible for vegetarians' lower rates of hormone-dependent cancers and for the lower mortality rate from prostate cancer in Asian countries, where populations eat little meat. Because fats are known to play a role in the development of several cancers, his group has been focusing on the phytosterols for possible answers.
  The objective of the current study was to examine the influence of vegetable fats on the metabolism of testosterone in liver, testis and prostate tissue in rats. During metabolism, interaction with the enzyme 5-alpha reductase changes testosterone into more active forms, while interaction with the enzyme aromatase converts it to estrogen, also considered a possible risk factor for prostate cancer.
  Knowing that prostate cancer doesn't develop in men castrated before puberty or in men who have low levels of 5-alpha reductase suggested to Awad's group that suppressing the action of the enzyme might be useful in preventing prostate cancer in high-risk groups.
  To determine if high levels of phytosterols could inhibit these enzymes, the researchers fed one group of rats a standard diet; a second, control group ate the standard diet plus cholic acid, which stimulates the absorption of vegetable fats. A third group ate a standard diet enhanced with a mixture of phytosterols, plus cholic acid.
  Results showed that rats fed the phytosterol diet had between 33 and 48 percent less testosterone than the animals that received no additional phytosterols. There was no difference in serum testosterone levels between the basal and control groups.
  The enhanced diet reduced the activity of 5-alpha reductase by 44 percent in the liver and by 33 percent in the prostate but did not affect the enzyme's activity in the testis, results showed. Phytosterols reduced the activity of aromatase by 57 percent in the prostate but had no effect in the liver or testis.
  Awad says his research team is continuing to examine exactly how phytosterols bring about these changes, but he believes one pathway involves the "fluidity" of the membranes that harbor the enzymes. "Every enzyme requires a specific fluidity in the membrane in which it resides in order to be activated," he says. "If the membrane is too fluid, the enzymes may not function properly."
  Other options include the possibility that phytosterols compete with testosterone and its products of metabolism for the enzyme's active receptors, or that they reduce production of the enzymes themselves. "Either way, the combined effect of reducing levels of testosterone and the activity of its two main enzymes suggests that a diet high in foods containing phytosterols could help reduce the risk of prostate cancer," Awad says.
 

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Very interesting indeed. I wonder though if there were any notable sexual effects of the phytosterol diet?

And what plants exactly contact these fats?

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foods Highest in Phytosterols

first number is position (obviously)
second number is mg/200 Cal

Ignore the missing numbers (5,10,17...etc), theses are gone because I couldn't be bothered re-numbering every thing once I had got them in to their Phytosterols containing order.


01 507 Lettuce, green leaf, raw
02 417 Capers, canned
03 269 Oil, vegetable, rice bran
04 255 Pickle, cucumber, sour

06 249 Seeds, sesame seeds, whole, dried
07 240 Asparagus, raw
08 219 Oil, vegetable corn, salad or cooking
09 218 Asparagus, cooked, boiled, drained

11 200 Lettuce, iceberg (includes crisphead types), raw
12 196 Oil, sesame, salad or cooking
13 191 Beet greens, raw
14 187 Seeds, sunflower seed kernels, dried
15 187 Cucumber, with peel, raw
16 159 Margarine, regular, hard, corn (hydrogenated)

18 159 Spices, cloves, ground
19 157 Margarine-like spread, (approximately 40% fat), corn (hydrogenated and regular)
20 155 Pickles, cucumber, dill

22 155 Spices, sage, ground
23 155 Okra, raw
24 149 Lemon peel, raw
25 144 Cauliflower, raw
26 141 Bamboo shoots, raw
27 133 Spices, oregano, dried
28 125 Oil, wheat germ
29 122 Celtuce, raw
30 121 Spices, paprika
31 120 Lemons, raw, with peel
32 119 Egg substitute, frozen

34 118 Margarine, regular, hard, sunflower and soybean (hydrogenated) and cottonseed (hydrogenated)
35 118 Spices, thyme, dried
36 116 Beets, raw
37 112 Brussels sprouts, raw
38 110 Margarine-like spread, (approximately 40% fat), soybean (hydrogenated)
39 103 Grapefruit, raw, white, all areas
40 100 Oil, vegetable safflower, salad or cooking, linoleic, (over 70%)

42 100 Mung beans, mature seeds, sprouted, raw
43 100 Tomatoes, red, ripe, cooked
44 98 Oranges, raw, navels
45 97 Salad dressing, mayonnaise, soybean and safflower oil, with salt
46 95 Margarine-butter blend, 60% corn oil margarine and 40% butter
47 92 Pumpkin, raw
48 92 Cabbage, raw

50 92 Cabbage, common (danish, domestic, and pointed types)


Looks like it's Lettuce and caper salad for everyone tonight!
I for one am glad to see that 'Egg substitute' just misses out on the top 30.

Ty

P.S. because lettuce is almost devoid of calories I think you would have to eat a couple of farms worth to notch up 200 Cal !!!
 

bombscience

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Very interesting post. Most of these foods are very healthy for you as well. It wouldn't be bad to change up the eating habits a little.
 

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Very interesting indeed.

(Finishes triple cheeseburger from wendy's with a 32 ounce coke)
 
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garthbrooks said:
here's a good article that talks about this:

http://members.aol.com/EM02HA/diet_hair_loss.htm

it says to eat sizeable portions of fruit, but later says to try and avoid sugar. so the sugar from fruit is fine? the human body confuses me.

Garthbrooks

The sugar in fruit (fuictose) enters your blood stream much slower so causes a much less pronounced inslulin response, which is good, refined sugar gets rapidly into your blood and causes:

'pancreatic mayhem'© ty2003

which is bad for you.

ty
 

bombscience

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Good thing I had that double quarter pounder with chees and large fries from Mickey D's yesterday. Oh yeah but I DO have more monopoly pieces now!
 
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I'm not sure why people are surprised that a good diet can help your hair's condition. It's pretty well established that a good diet can help your general hair health. And given all the benefits of a good diet why not eat healthy anyways?
 

garthbrooks

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LactoseFactory said:
And given all the benefits of a good diet why not eat healthy anyways?


If you look at the link it mentions a way of eating that involves cutting out starches such as breads, and potatoes. those are tough things to give up.
 

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Hey BOMB! I will trade you st charles place for what ever you got on the Mcdonalds monopoly game! How are we suppose to not order the damn supersize... god damn it, especially when they offer you game pieces!
 

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Early Baldness May Result From Insulin Resistance


There exists a proven association between male-pattern baldness and serious cardiovascular events, but the mechanism of action is unknown.

Now, a new study has shown a strikingly increased risk of insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, and insulin-resistance-associated disorders in men with early onset of male-pattern baldness (alopecia), supporting the theory that early male-pattern baldness could be a clinical marker of insulin resistance.


Researchers performed a practice-based case-control study on 154 subjects (aged 19-50 years) with early-onset male-pattern baldness (onset prior to 35 years of age) and age-matched controls.

Men were only selected whose hair loss was significant, using an accepted classification method.

Information on diagnoses of chronic diseases and data on current medication, weight and height, fasting total cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL cholesterol, and blood glucose were collected.

Blood insulin levels were measured.
Researchers looked at the following insulin-resistance-associated risk factors:


Elevated lipids (HDL cholesterol <0.9 mmol/L, triglycerides > 1.7 mmol/L, or lipid-lowering medication)

Abnormal glucose metabolism (fasting blood glucose > 6.7 mmol/L twice or antidiabetic medication)

High body-mass index

Elevated systolic blood pressure (> 160 mm Hg).
A "cluster" was considered to be present if at least three of the four variables were simultaneously positive.

The risks for the following were all found to be elevated for the alopecia group:


Nearly 5 times more likely to have clustered risk factors

Hyperinsulinemia risk was increased nearly 2-fold

Moderate obesity was increased nearly 2-fold

Severe obesity was increased nearly 150%.

Use of cholesterol lowering medication was increased more than 4-fold

Use of blood pressure or diabetic medication was more than double
Researchers maintain that there findings "…raise the question whether insulin resistance could be a pathophysiological mechanism or promoting factor in early androgenetic alopecia, which could, in turn, be an early marker of insulin resistance."

In addition, they suggest that men with early-onset male-pattern baldness should be screened for insulin resistance and other cardiovascular disease risk factors.

Lancet September 30, 2000; 356: 1165-1166
 

RalphyWiggum

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Another interesting excerpt from drmirkin.com

"More than three years ago I reported that the present treatment for male-pattern baldness is not very effective and that male pattern baldness may be caused by insulin resistance, and that a diet high in sugar and flour may cause irreversible hair loss. A study in the journal Lancet (1) shows that male pattern baldness may well be caused by insulin resistance. Male pattern baldness means loss of hair on the top and front of the head, but not the sides. Insulin resistance means that a person cannot respond well to insulin causing both men and women to have very high blood levels of insulin. When you eat, your blood sugar level rises.. To keep blood sugar levels from rising too high, your pancreas releases insulin which drives sugar from the blood into your cells. Some people respond poorly to insulin so their blood sugar levels rise too high and then they produce way too much insulin that causes man and women to lose hair."
 

garthbrooks

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RalphyWiggum said:
Another interesting excerpt from drmirkin.com

"More than three years ago I reported that the present treatment for male-pattern baldness is not very effective and that male pattern baldness may be caused by insulin resistance, and that a diet high in sugar and flour may cause irreversible hair loss. A study in the journal Lancet (1) shows that male pattern baldness may well be caused by insulin resistance. Male pattern baldness means loss of hair on the top and front of the head, but not the sides. Insulin resistance means that a person cannot respond well to insulin causing both men and women to have very high blood levels of insulin. When you eat, your blood sugar level rises.. To keep blood sugar levels from rising too high, your pancreas releases insulin which drives sugar from the blood into your cells. Some people respond poorly to insulin so their blood sugar levels rise too high and then they produce way too much insulin that causes man and women to lose hair."

Most of that correlates with the things they recommend in the "diet". Staying away from starches and sugars. Things which make your blood sugar rise. They say that it increases testosterone though, and that is the main cause. Either way they're still saying to do the same thing.
 

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Time Magaize a few weeks ago had a nice artical on what people should be eating. It said that most fish were high in fatty acids that can help reduce the risk of Prostate Cancer. It said you should eat fish about 3 times a week, but some fish like shark, swordfish, and I believe cod should only be eaten 1-2 times a month. Sardines and something else could be eaten a lot more.

If anyone's interested I'll get the correct info on all that from the magazine.
 

RalphyWiggum

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Cal Que Later said:
Time Magaize a few weeks ago had a nice artical on what people should be eating. It said that most fish were high in fatty acids that can help reduce the risk of Prostate Cancer. It said you should eat fish about 3 times a week, but some fish like shark, swordfish, and I believe cod should only be eaten 1-2 times a month. Sardines and something else could be eaten a lot more.

If anyone's interested I'll get the correct info on all that from the magazine.


Hell yeah post it, sir
 
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