Face And Hair Is Everything - Is It?

[cantara]

It's what I've always thought, especially in countries that do well economically.

Now there is that guy at my office. Handsome face, mixture of Norwegian and Iranian genes, a slightly better version of Jake Gyllenhaal (as he loves pointing out himself - he is right about it though), full head of hair. However: he's rather short, over 30 now and "just" a paralegal. When he first started working here, I was convinced girls would drool over him, the ambitious, hot female lawyers included. Well, they do acknowledge his good face and nice hair, but they don't consider him as options, neither for cheating on partners, let alone as a partner. "Too short". "But...he's a a paralegal!" He himself complained about those "elitist" girls, that he has it way easier with less academic women, also stressing that he could have got himself a law degree and take the bar exam. It was somehow satisfying to see for me that other, more handsome guys have disadvantages to deal with as well, just that they (or at least this guy) prefers some sort of self-deception, somewhat similar as if I were to tell myself: I could be a 9 if I just wanted it enough!
Interestingly, heis now dating a girl, quite pretty - and a nurse. There is so much truth in the match-theories, but it's not restriced to the looks-area, as it seems, at least in surroundings where women are very concerned with prestige and attribute considerable status to themselves (not that I'd find that likeable per se, but I see it happen...).

 

[Roberto_72]

It's what I've always thought, especially in countries that do well economically.

Now there is that guy at my office. Handsome face, mixture of Norwegian and Iranian genes, a slightly better version of Jake Gyllenhaal (as he loves pointing out himself - he is right about it though), full head of hair. However: he's rather short, over 30 now and "just" a paralegal. When he first started working here, I was convinced girls would drool over him, the ambitious, hot female lawyers included. Well, they do acknowledge his good face and nice hair, but they don't consider him as options, neither for cheating on partners, let alone as a partner. "Too short". "But...he's a a paralegal!" He himself complained about those "elitist" girls, that he has it way easier with less academic women, also stressing that he could have got himself a law degree and take the bar exam. It was somehow satisfying to see for me that other, more handsome guys have disadvantages to deal with as well, just that they (or at least this guy) prefers some sort of self-deception, somewhat similar as if I were to tell myself: I could be a 9 if I just wanted it enough!
Interestingly, heis now dating a girl, quite pretty - and a nurse. There is so much truth in the match-theories, but it's not restriced to the looks-area, as it seems, at least in surroundings where women are very concerned with prestige and attribute considerable status to themselves (not that I'd find that likeable per se, but I see it happen...).

Looks matching is real, as is career-matching.
How short is this guy?
As for the paralegal thing, however, maybe the real reason why this man is not liked is because he does not convey any sexual subcontext in his conversation. This, added to the short stature, makes him very inadequate in front of these very exigent women.

And: no, hair is not sufficient for romantic success. Imagine though how sufficient baldness is

 

[cantara]

Looks matching is real, as is career-matching.
How short is this guy?
As for the paralegal thing, however, maybe the real reason why this man is not liked is because he does not convey any sexual subcontext in his conversation. This, added to the short stature, makes him very inadequate in front of these very exigent women.

And: no, hair is not sufficient for romantic success. Imagine though how sufficient baldness is

He says he is 5'8 (so he may be slightly shorter than that) and he is popular with the secretaries here and he does well on Tinder without height indication. At least that's what he says, and I believe him, his face is exceptionally handsome, especially for a guy in his (early) thirties. It 's interesting to me, because I've always been of the opinion that face>hair>height>money>career/prestige. I'd say he is not particularly eloquent/charming (also makes quite a lot of spelling mistakes in his preparation emails, even when writing in his native language), but still smarter and more playful than many men (you can tell he's not inexperienced with women) in interacting with girls and I'd have thought that would be enough to be more succesful, when I first saw him.

 

[jasonstatham]

Its so easy to know how to get girls but most men are just delusional.

What you need to be good with women from important to "less important"

-height
-physic (not skinny, not skinny fat, not fat, not obese, a good chest and strong arms and you go)
-face
-hair (you are tall and do bench press 3 times a week? you can shave it off if you balding Ohh you are small and skinny fat? --> hair transplant tomorrow)

Other stuff:
-don't be a pussy (stop liking girls pictures on any social media sh*t, stop writing to women all day even your girlfriend and especially a girl you haven't even fucked...Jesus)
-stop care if you get rejected (most men do in 2018....even Chads get rejected just less than you)
- be interesting (if you spend 4 hours a day on hairlosstalk like me instead of going to the GYM or running etc etc...well xD)

 

[jasonstatham]

And cantara, do not forget we are both from Switzerland. Its the most hardest country to please women and thats not just me talking. I could get girls in greece/germany/spain even with my balding sh*t hair. In Switzerland its hardcore mode to even get a 5.

 

[cantara]

Its so easy to know how to get girls but most men are just delusional.

What you need to be good with women from important to "less important"

-height
-physic (not skinny, not skinny fat, not fat, not obese, a good chest and strong arms and you go)
-face
-hair (you are tall and do bench press 3 times a week? you can shave it off if you balding Ohh you are small and skinny fat? --> hair transplant tomorrow)

Other stuff:
-don't be a pussy (stop liking girls pictures on any social media sh*t, stop writing to women all day even your girlfriend and especially a girl you haven't even fucked...Jesus)
-stop care if you get rejected (most men do in 2018....even Chads get rejected just less than you)
- be interesting (if you spend 4 hours a day on hairlosstalk like me instead of going to the GYM or running etc etc...well xD)

As for your "other stuff": less important, but all true, I agree. However, won't get noticed either way if the physical requirements are not met. Nothing new.
"New" to me though that for some, very good face and hair (plus, say, "decent enough" job) won't do, the important factors are cumulative and the job-.thing is added on top. Maybe I've been led to deduct too much from my own taste: to me, a pretty face in a girl is half the battle at least, i.e. I'm a very face-oriented person. Interestingly guys I find handsome aren't that popular with women, it's more the ones I find to be "brutish", rugged and, well, tall.

 

[cantara]

And cantara, do not forget we are both from Switzerland. Its the most hardest country to please women and thats not just me talking. I could get girls in greece/germany/spain even with my balding sh*t hair. In Switzerland its hardcore mode to even get a 5.

There is a chance everybody thinks that about their territory. However, I do find it easier with for example German or British girls who live here than Swiss girls. Considerably easier, actually.

 

[jasonstatham]

There is a chance everybody thinks that about their territory. However, I do find it easier with for example German or British girls who live here than Swiss girls. Considerably easier, actually.

Its a reason why I see so many short men in the GYM on a friday night instead being on a date or bang a girl. You simply have to be jacked as a short man. At least with hairloss you can do some stuff. Short men are fucked.

 

[Roberto_72]

he is popular with the secretaries

so basically it all seems to come down to this:
- Women like his physical traits
- Career-oriented women don't like him
I would be happy with this.

 

[cantara]

so basically it all seems to come down to this:
- Women like his physical traits
- Career-oriented women don't like him
I would be happy with this.

It‘s definitely a question of perspectives, yes. I‘d take his looks-package for sure, although the secretaries are way below his league looks-wise. He still has is easier than me in general with girls, but I would have expected it to be much easier for him.

 

[George7]

I am in a similar situation as your colleague. I have received a lot of complements over the years for being cute, good looking, you can get anyone etc. My face is good, I am still a Norwood 2 with slightly thinning crown (On finasteride thanks god).

Height is super important. I am 165cm and it is a nightmare. My male friends say: You look good you should have no problem? It is the same as a Norwood 1 person saying to a Norwood 5 person it is just hair, be confident.

Girls checking me out smiling while I am sitting lose all interest when I stand up. Matches on Tinder: “Hey really liked your photo” (Yes, I usually just have one selfie and still get matches in Scandinavia where people in general look good). When I mention my height they either erase me or avoid answering.

Height is however relative. The taller the better basically, but I would say you still can do well as long as you are approx. 173-175cm or above (As your colleague). Then you are taller than most girls and I have seen from others I know this seems to be the threshold even in Scandinavia. Of course, you will still be at disadvantage especially online where 180cm seems to be the magic number or 6 feet in the States. You also still need to look good enough have a decent job etc, but shorter than 170cm is like Norwood 5 and above I would say.

Height is also difficult to do something about. Growth hormones must be taken before 18 so Your parents must fix this for you and after that you only have limb lengthening and that is 100 000 $ and about a year of work so not doable unless you are rich.

With hair you can make your own decision to stop the progress at least for almost everyone. Finasteride stops hair loss in 90%, if you are unlucky and it is not enough you can use dutasteride and it works for 99%. Hair transplants although expensive are still doable for most people with a bit of savings and hard work. In Turkey you can go to top surgeons for good prices. You also only need 1-3 weeks of work before being back to normal depending on how comfortable you are with redness on your head.

I am waiting for Shiseido at the moment and will have that since it seems like a vaccine that stops the progress for a minimum of 5 years maybe for life (Replicel safety trial). Excited to see their results this year, but I am in need of long term maintenance more than massive regrowth. After that my plan is Erdogan to get a dense Norwood 1 again and be finished with this cap forever.

If I am getting nowhere in my life with a perfect head of hear in my early 30s with a top tier education and good face I will most likely sell my apartment to fund limb lengthening. A lot of guys my age have some sort of hair loss and are letting themselves go. If I with a full package except height is still doomed I see no other way.

 

[davesmith420]

A friend of a friend of mine is friends with some girls in my program.

Apparently I was brought up in conversation once and one of the girls said "Anon is cute but he would be a lot hotter if he was taller" and a few others agreed.

P A I N I S S U F F E R I N G

(I'm 5'8 btw)

 

[LastSamurai]

As others have pointed out, this guy's prediciment doesn't seem that bad.

I'm imagining the typical lawyer chick is going to be a pain in the *** and up her own *** for that matter.

The woman is looking for a guy who has sort of a better career then hers or at least matching. It works in the same way as height. I'm not going to look for a girl who is taller then me or taller then me with heels.

And I'm not going to find a girl who is making 100k a year whilst I'm working part time as a freelancer and living at home still. I'm also dating a nurse and she probably sees me as a good catch. In other words, she's in my league.

This guy is pissed off because he can't get women who are in a different league (above him, financially and probably intellectually.) Wake up and smell the coffee and go and get a date with your local waitress.

 

[Saurabhaj]

There are two types of girl.

One type of girl wants their dream guy to be tall.
And one type of girl are okay to even marry guy who is of same height to the girl/slightly taller is also okay.

To know whether girl will like guy of her height is very easy to know if guy have game/tactics.

If she is not in to same height guys and want a taller guy,all efforts taken by guy will go down into drain.


This is applicable when both girl and boy are in same social circle,not for Tinder.
Can be applicable to Facebook also.

 

[Cue Bald]

how tall are you george? i am 5'8 too and have been rejected for being "too small"
i'd probably swap an inch of dick length for an inch of height, maybe even 2 inches

 

[George7]

5.5 in those units. Even if I had limb lengthening in one procedure I would only get you your height 5.8 would make a World of difference for me regardless. Two surgeries would get med to 5.10 aprrox. Hate my height also Wished I started finasteride before. Thinking of dutasteride to max out results and avoid future thinning before a transplant, but will wait and see with shiseido before doing anything. Would do anything basically just to get to 5.8 myself. Plan is shiseido->Roids to optimize body when/if immune to hair loss after shiseido->Erdogan bringing me back to dense norwood 1. If after that life feels bad with top education and looks except height I will have to sell my apartment to do limb lengthening. Trying to start a company now to fund it, but not sure how it will go. Can not wait forever. Will hate my height at 40 and 50 also, but then the return is less since there will be less years to live with increased height and I will never settle down like normal people

 

[Fkdup]

I am 5.9 but I look way longer as per others. Many many people have said so. Like I was standing with one of my friends who is 5.11 and our common friend saw us and said that she thought I was longer than other guy until she saw me with him. This really helps. I have seen 1 or 2 other people with similar body type like me, who indeed look longer than their actual height.

 

[swingline747]

these women have options. they work around lawyers and high level people all day. This guys JJ look wont impress them when they prob all know a Judge who looks like Clooney and theyre busy all getting wet over that.
Reduce their options though and if it came down to you or him they would probably choose him. Wait until a nice x-mas party when everyone is good and drunk.

 

[meetjoeblack]

It's what I've always thought, especially in countries that do well economically.

Now there is that guy at my office. Handsome face, mixture of Norwegian and Iranian genes, a slightly better version of Jake Gyllenhaal (as he loves pointing out himself - he is right about it though), full head of hair. However: he's rather short, over 30 now and "just" a paralegal. When he first started working here, I was convinced girls would drool over him, the ambitious, hot female lawyers included. Well, they do acknowledge his good face and nice hair, but they don't consider him as options, neither for cheating on partners, let alone as a partner. "Too short". "But...he's a a paralegal!" He himself complained about those "elitist" girls, that he has it way easier with less academic women, also stressing that he could have got himself a law degree and take the bar exam. It was somehow satisfying to see for me that other, more handsome guys have disadvantages to deal with as well, just that they (or at least this guy) prefers some sort of self-deception, somewhat similar as if I were to tell myself: I could be a 9 if I just wanted it enough!
Interestingly, heis now dating a girl, quite pretty - and a nurse. There is so much truth in the match-theories, but it's not restriced to the looks-area, as it seems, at least in surroundings where women are very concerned with prestige and attribute considerable status to themselves (not that I'd find that likeable per se, but I see it happen...).

It's classic female hypergamy. He should one up them by 1) acquire top form smv (early side of twenty) 2) actually acquire that partnership pass the bar etc.

Women seek Chad's during top form SMV. It's about resources when Chad's stop calling. I don't think there has ever been female egomaniacs to the extent of the likes in 2018. It coincides with the girl power, you go girl, sh*t don't stink, #metoo when Chad's stop calling.

I like women who think outside the box. Despite the victim movement, women are still dressing sluty, have a hash tag movement for victim narrative, anti sl*t and pro fatty. Promo for being a single mom who can't close her legs. Society celebrating being trashy.

Women in career just means competing with the men for the corner office and sleeping with the ceo. Women dare up. Not down during top form. It's dating down as her dirty 30s and baby rabies hit overdrive.

Said

 

[Feelsbadman]

yes if you actually get off the internet and actually socialise you will realise that a attracting women is not all about face and hair