Fake propecia from Cipla?

zackb

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Guys I started taking the generic Proscar from INhouse Pharmacy a while ago. It is from Cipla, which is India. When I started it, I was out of regular Proscar, and began to shed some when I started taking the Indian stuff. My hair looks like garbage right now, and I wonder if it's because I have been taking a fke pill for the last 10 months. Should I spend the extra $ and get some Proscar from the US and see if I shed. If I do, then maybe I am on fake meds. Any thoughts?
 

Radio

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Yes, stick with stuff from the US, the US is free from crime and any products bought off an American internet site will be guaranteed to be made within the US.

Also CIPLA are a tiny, mostly illegal company, staffed by ex-criminals and as you point out are based in India, which is renowned for fake finasteride products.

You say you are shedding on these fake pills, this is further proof that they have no active ingredient in them and are just chalk.
 

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Radio said:
Yes, stick with stuff from the US, the US is free from crime and any products bought off an American internet site will be guaranteed to be made within the US.

Also CIPLA are a tiny, mostly illegal company, staffed by ex-criminals and as you point out are based in India, which is renowned for fake finasteride products.

You say you are shedding on these fake pills, this is further proof that they have no active ingredient in them and are just chalk.

You have moved to a greater sphere of irony after Tynan died. This touches the realm of inverted reality.
 

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Radio said:
Also CIPLA are a tiny, mostly illegal company, staffed by ex-criminals and as you point out are based in India, which is renowned for fake finasteride products.
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RUBBISH! Cipla are a huge company! They produce generic versions of most medications available in the UK. In fact they recently spent millions of dollars producing generic versions of medications developed to help treat AIDS. They hoped that they could provide AIDS medication to African countries who cannot afford to buy from pharmaceutical giants based in Western countries. This is an article produced by the WHO about Cipla and its generic AIDS medication:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/rel ... 4/pr87/en/

Also Cipla are also a major player in developing treatment for the much feared Bird Flu. See the link below for the full story:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/051014/137/60kbm.html

I am not saying that Finpecia or Fincar work aswell as Propecia and Proscar but the company Cipla is a pharmaceutical giant, who I believe deserve a lot of respect for their determination to produce cut-priced medication to countries unable to afford to treat their own people.
 

Radio

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Dear trentender

I was joking.
 

zackb

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Fake Proscar.

I only shed hairs the first few day6s I took them. Oh well, I'll assume thwy are fine. Thanks.
 

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Re: Fake Proscar.

zackb said:
I only shed hairs the first few day6s I took them. Oh well, I'll assume thwy are fine. Thanks.

I think they are fake. Look at the way you type.
 

biff

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They should be fine. Like others have said Cipla is a big company and In House Pharmacy are also reputable. India is now one of the largest drug producers in the world. They are also the largest producer of fake drugs but most of these end up in Africa.
 

Britannia

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Radio said:
Dear trentender

I was joking.

Sorry didnt realise! On a serious point though, Ive always been against buying generic finasteride in favor of the real deal but Im not sure why. The more I think about it the more I think that buying Cipla may not be such a bad idea. After all they dont seem to have the money making greed possessed by companies such as Merck. Has anybody here had documented success with generic finasteride?
If you bought Fincar and split it into 5ths, you could reduce your finasteride bill to about £5 a month! Thats something to consider.
 

Radio

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My proscar bill comes to about £5 (UK) a month.
 

Petchsky

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I've used 2 different generics including Cipla, and real Propecia. Judging from the sides I get, there's no difference, besides the price. Plus my hair isn't falling out anymore.
 

joseph49853

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As much as Radio's comments were meant to be satiric, trentender really hit the mark with his post. Good job.
 

Dinzy

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C'mon. All joking aside, someone needs to point out the fact that a shed right after starting something cannot be related to that event. The original poster seriously doesn't understand what is going on in his scalp. Hair takes up to 3 months to shed and the ammount of hair you shed fluctuates with time. So an increased ammount of shedding is usually just a random fluctuation and will probably only last for a few days. A shedding due to the treatment will take a couple of months to occur.

Personally I use Cipla finasteride and since I am only 5 months in, I have no real results to report yet. I got some sides that later vanished and did shed alot in months 2-4, but now things feel better and I think I am maintaining. Why waste money on the brand name crap? If you stay on generic finasteride over the real propecia for a long time you will have saved enough money to put a good downpayment on an hair transplant if you end up wanting one. I pay about 7 bucks a month for my finasteride.
 

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FWIW I took Cipla brand proscar from inhousepharmacy(a couple years ago, mind you) and after 3 or 4 months my shedding never quit. I always suspected the pills were hinky, as when I'd split them they'd basically explode into pieces, rather than just split like the brand name proscar I'd been using previously. Now a couple years after being off treatment, I'm back to generic proscar, this time from pharmacygeoff.com and made by dr. reddy, and I'm very pleased with the results. So far so good, hair loss seems to definately be down, the pills don't explode when I split them(not very scientific I know), so I'm sticking with them for the time being. Good luck.
 

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generic Proscar from Dr. Reddy

Just trying to generate more of people's opinions/experience here.

I'm a newbie, considering getting Finast (generic Proscar from Dr. Reedy) from UnitedPharmacies.

Anyone else want to add their opinion on generic versus brand name? I'd appreciate it.

Also, I think the "pill exploding" when you split it - maybe that doesn't matter too much. The inactive ingredients are what gives the pill the consistency, so maybe they use a different process/different cement material, but the active ingredients could still be there?

Anyways, hope to get more opions. Is Dr. Reedy and Cipla pretty much the same in terms of quality? Yeah, I know, no one really knows for sure...but some testimonials would help!
 

barnabas

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I thought Dr. Reddy's was actually made by cipla and just packaged distributed by them (him?)? I might be wrong, but I remember someone saying something like that.
 

joseph49853

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Re: generic Proscar from Dr. Reddy

sprint3 said:
Just trying to generate more of people's opinions/experience here.

I'm a newbie, considering getting Finast (generic Proscar from Dr. Reedy) from UnitedPharmacies.

Anyone else want to add their opinion on generic versus brand name? I'd appreciate it.

Also, I think the "pill exploding" when you split it - maybe that doesn't matter too much. The inactive ingredients are what gives the pill the consistency, so maybe they use a different process/different cement material, but the active ingredients could still be there?

Anyways, hope to get more opions. Is Dr. Reedy and Cipla pretty much the same in terms of quality? Yeah, I know, no one really knows for sure...but some testimonials would help!

All anyone could offer are opinions, and some experience in this case. For Indian generics, I would probably give Cipla a much bigger edge; simply because they are the overall larger more respected company with far greater capitol.

And you're correct about the inactive ingredients or filler. Without them being added to our medicines, even a 5mg finasteride pill would be super small, and not uniformly capable of being split, much less being held firmly in hand.

As for generic fakes, these pills are sold for pennies on the streets of India. It would probably cost someone far more to counterfeit them than simply sell the real thing. Or at least, I've never once felt my finasteride from Cipla was ever fake, in 4+ years of using the generic version.
 

barnabas

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What money is there in counterfeiting a dirt cheap generic version of a drug that most western customers don't even get access to anyway? I'd think that any fake finasteride would be sold as propecia or just generic propecia, not try and pretend to be an indian brand that few people in the US have heard of that costs a ton less than propecia.
 

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Guys Cipla and Dr. Reddy's are very reputed companies. Generics is a huge market and I think they would not risk their reputation by making fake drugs to make some quick bucks.

However I will not rule out the possibility of some small companies making fake drugs and selling them under Cipla or Dr.Reddy's brand, this is where the place from where u buy the generics becomes important. Hence buy your generics from trusted sources.
 
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