finastererecovery.com

[Prop]

"You're About To Learn My Private Story of How I Fully Recovered from Finasteride"
Give me just 16 minutes to watch my private video "My Finasteride Journey" covering my 6 years on the drug and my 2 years of recovery from its drastic effects on my health. Be inspired to make the journey to recovery yourself

http://www.finasteridereovery.com/

it sounds nasty bullshit to me ...
some that wants to get money from people's suffering

 

[Wuffer]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

I'm sorry but i'm lol'ing. Not to poke fun at the people experiencing problems, but it's crazy how fast people decided to start profiting from this as soon as it hit the media.

Anyone want to try buying this? Im interested to see what it says!

 

[Prop]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

it's crazy how fast people decided to start profiting from this as soon as it hit the media.

yes, that's life.
it's like new age treatments for illiness without solutions

when u r in despair u try everithing,
and sh*t people is ready to tell (and sell) what u want to hear

Anyone want to try buying this? Im interested to see what it says

probably copy-paste some from prophelp

 

[Prop]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

:woot: :agree:

 

[Wuffer]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

Is that what you get when you spend the $89 at this site? I'm cured!

 

[Prop]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

Is that what you get when you spend the $89 at this site?!

i dunno, why dont u try to buy

 

[Mew]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

That site is a scam, it's an e-book/spam marketing site. We've already been through it with the founder of that site on PropHelp, as he was trying to promote it there.

Just do a search for "finasteriderecovery" on the PH forum and you'll see. If it were that easy to recover from persistent Finasteride side effects, there wouldn't be academic articles being written about the problem, and this clown wouldn't be charging $ if he was truly suffering and willing to help people.

 

[Wuffer]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

Be that as it may, I am still very interested to see what this person's videos and/or documentation actually suggests as a treatment.. Or do you pay the $89 and not get anything in return?

 

[Mew]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

You get some phony sales-pitch type marketing videos designed to sell you supplements and an excercise regime, from what others have told me.

Good luck if you feel like parting with your hard earned cash for basic information that is already available for free everywhere on the web, and which has little if any bearing on reversing persistent Finasteride side effects, hypogonadism and damaging effects of the drug across numerous hormonal and metabolic pathways throughout the body.

 

[Wuffer]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

Be that as it may, I am still very interested to see what this person's videos and/or documentation actually suggests as a treatment..

Why? You just started finasteride, and you don't believe in persistent side effects?

Dude, can we drop this? I never said that! I'm tired of arguing. For the record, I DO believe persistent side effects occur in a limited number of men. That's not what I was grinding at in the other threads; I was simply stating that during the finasteride trials, no men were ever found to have these symptoms, and that people need to consider BOTH sides of the fence when considering to go on the drug. I also believe that a large number of these men are experiencing psychosomatic symptoms, and another group of them experience 100% real ones, caused by finasteride. I was also pushing that these men need to consider alternate causes for these symptoms before. It's not acceptable that these guys are being convinced that virtually any and every symptoms they experience during and after finasteride is being caused by post-finasteride syndrome.

Mew, for example, is pretty good at NOT doing this; he generally recommends people seek other causes of their symptoms before self-diagnosing with post-finasteride syndrome. However, many of the others don't do this; they make it their life mission to convince guys, as well as dissuade them from seeking medical attention for these symptoms.

There absolutely needs to be a large-scale, placebo controlled study that can identify when people experience these persistent symptoms, and what exactly is causing it. This would rule out the 'nocebo' factor entirely (again, something I still think plays a role in a percentage of these cases), and hopefully lead to information that these people could use for treatment.

It's frustrating that you label me as ignorant, simply because I believe the evidence you have presented to me is not conclusive enough. I know how to work with and consider information; I hold a degree in information systems, and have worked in the industry for over 5 years. I weigh out, compile and analyze information on a daily basis. I am being as unbiased and neutral as possible in considering the data I have.

 

[Wuffer]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

Also, i'm constantly reminded of a very crude, yet fitting saying:

Arguing on the internet is like running at the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

 

[Mens Rea]

Re: finasteriderecovery.com

I am being as unbiased and neutral as possible in considering the data I have.

I spoke with Professor Bouloux today about this. Himself and I both agree that its just so difficult to compile the data to verify that thousands of men are experiencing and saying. We both agreed that Irwig's study was far from ideal.

At the end of the day, the burden of proof is on the sufferer (unfortunately) and this makes it so difficult. Not to mention most people don't even like to partcipate in bloods at the best of times.

Get this - there's only been 90 offically registered cases of complaint of persistent sexual problems from propecia to MERCK. I'm sure almost noone on PH has even registered their complaint. This is the nature of things, really.

With something affecting a small percentage of patients, esepcially in such a parsonal and difficult to subtantiate area, it's always going to be difficult. The medical community has ALOT of ground to make up in this area. Sexual health is SUCH a complex thing but you shouidl also appreciate that it's very strongly connected with hormonal health. Most people's sides just won't be taken that seriously given the lack of real expertise in this area generally.

I accept this. But people should respect that sexual health is such an intricate thing that often there is underlying endoctrine disruption causing problems but since people's bodies are so finely balanced its just so hard to diagnose and its so easy to dismiss as mental. This very thing (not necessarily finasteride related) drives guys mad (no pun) when they know for a fact they are mentally just the same as they were when they were in good sexual health. It's a tough area in all respects, really.

 

[Wuffer]

I really couldn't have said it better myself, and I agree with you completely. EVERYBODY who believes they are experiencing post-finasteride symptoms needs to report them to the proper channels (i'm not sure exactly which, but i'm sure Mew has information). This is the first step in getting some momentum behind this issue and working towards a resolution. The human body is extremely complex, and we don't even have an understanding of a fraction of what actually goes on. I agree also, that finasteride is a relatively new drug, and doesn't have many long-term (20+ year) studies to prove it's safety. I think that these studies could potentially open the window for treating others with sexual dysfunction, which would be just fantastic.

I can appreciate where you guys are coming from, being in your unfortunate situation. I sincerely hope that some progress is made soon in discovering the cause of these symptoms. I am more than willing to help. If at any point in the future I decide to quit finasteride, I would be happy to offer before and after blood test results as to possibly offer some insight into how the body is responding to coming off of it. Especially since it's all free in Canada!