Finasteride Gyno Plan - Logical Or Terrible?

[scoobydoobers]

Hey, so I'm 22 and I'm a Norwood 2 approaching 3. I've tried finasteride at 1, 0.5 and 0.25mg when I was 19 and had to stop about 3 weeks in due to nipple pain/ache (my brother also experienced clear gyno symptoms around 3 months in). I decided to try again now and I've got the same issue, so I was thinking this:

Continue taking finasteride, in the event I get full blown gyno, pay the $5-$6k that it is to have the glands completely removed. It appears that gyno is really the only side effect I or my brother have gotten. My reasoning here is that going bald for the next 8ish years and therefore for all of my 20's, then having to shell out $10k or more for transplants that likely won't even restore my hair to current density is far worse than paying the $6k now to have some glands removed. I'm at pretty low body fat so the procedure would be just gland removal, of course this entire plan requires a surgeon experienced with full gland removals while maintaining pec shape (probably the ones that work with bodybuilders that juice).

I could totally have no clue what I'm talking about, and would love any insight on whether I'm thinking about this all wrong. I really value my hair and having thought it over for a few years now, believe that this risk makes sense. Thanks in advance.

(currently on .25mg daily for the past 3 weeks, right nipple ache came in hard so I dropped to .125-ish mg and it's gone down a bit)

Also, is buying CB and/or Seti a reasonable/somewhat proven alternative for at least maintenance? I assume that $5-6k I'm willing to spend would get me through a few years?

 

[Ollie]

I would get bloods before and after going on finasteride to see exactly how much your E has increased. The problem with E going up a lot and thus causing gyno isn't just the problem of gyno, but the fact that if your E really has spiked significantly on the drug then it will over time continue to suppress your T and bring forward even more side effects. What you could do is microdose an AI to bring your E back to your natural baseline.

Before anyone else says how bad an AI is for your bones - im talking an amount of an AI that would allow his E only to be back inline with his norm.

 

[scoobydoobers]

I would get bloods before and after going on finasteride to see exactly how much your E has increased. The problem with E going up a lot and thus causing gyno isn't just the problem of gyno, but the fact that if your E really has spiked significantly on the drug then it will over time continue to suppress your T and bring forward even more side effects. What you could do is microdose an AI to bring your E back to your natural baseline.

Before anyone else says how bad an AI is for your bones - im talking an amount of an AI that would allow his E only to be back inline with his norm.

Agreed, that is also an option. I've gotten my pre bloodwork in and my estradiol came up around 10% above the max range from what I remember. Testosterone though was also quite high so Doctor said it was okay. Planning on seeing endo soon to get the follow up, unfortunately did not check prolactin and such in the pre bloodwork. But I'll see what the Doctor thinks about low dose AI. Thanks for the reply!

 

[Ollie]

Agreed, that is also an option. I've gotten my pre bloodwork in and my estradiol came up around 10% above the max range from what I remember. Testosterone though was also quite high so Doctor said it was okay. Planning on seeing endo soon to get the follow up, unfortunately did not check prolactin and such in the pre bloodwork. But I'll see what the Doctor thinks about low dose AI. Thanks for the reply!

Nice man . Do you have your before and after readings for estrogen ? Would be interested to hear the change .

 

[scoobydoobers]

Nice man . Do you have your before and after readings for estrogen ? Would be interested to hear the change .

Yep, Estradiol at 52.2 pg/mL (ref range 7.6-42.6pg/mL according to labcorp) and Testosterone at 777 ng/dL (264-916 range). Dht at 57 which just says normal

 

[Ollie]

Yep, Estradiol at 52.2 pg/mL (ref range 7.6-42.6pg/mL according to labcorp) and Testosterone at 777 ng/dL (264-916 range). Dht at 57 which just says normal

Interesting. Not erectile dysfunction with that level of E ?

 

[scoobydoobers]

Interesting. Not erectile dysfunction with that level of E ?

I should clarify, that was my pre-bloodwork and I haven't yet done the post; but yes not a hint of ED with that level of E. Pretty weird, I put on muscle mass very easily and have an extremely horny sex drive. (lmao)

Hoping to meet the endocrinologist in a month or so and see what they think of super low dose anastrozole or something of that sort considering my E is high enough even without finasteride that I'd have enough left over after using an AI. If not, I'm also considering going with CB and seti if I could find a decent source.

 

[justbeconfident]

weird sh*t u had such high e before finasteride, the f***

mb u were chuggin too much soy or something

 

[covfefe42]

Hey, so I'm 22 and I'm a Norwood 2 approaching 3. I've tried finasteride at 1, 0.5 and 0.25mg when I was 19 and had to stop about 3 weeks in due to nipple pain/ache (my brother also experienced clear gyno symptoms around 3 months in). I decided to try again now and I've got the same issue, so I was thinking this:

Continue taking finasteride, in the event I get full blown gyno, pay the $5-$6k that it is to have the glands completely removed. It appears that gyno is really the only side effect I or my brother have gotten. My reasoning here is that going bald for the next 8ish years and therefore for all of my 20's, then having to shell out $10k or more for transplants that likely won't even restore my hair to current density is far worse than paying the $6k now to have some glands removed. I'm at pretty low body fat so the procedure would be just gland removal, of course this entire plan requires a surgeon experienced with full gland removals while maintaining pec shape (probably the ones that work with bodybuilders that juice).

I could totally have no clue what I'm talking about, and would love any insight on whether I'm thinking about this all wrong. I really value my hair and having thought it over for a few years now, believe that this risk makes sense. Thanks in advance.

(currently on .25mg daily for the past 3 weeks, right nipple ache came in hard so I dropped to .125-ish mg and it's gone down a bit)

Also, is buying CB and/or Seti a reasonable/somewhat proven alternative for at least maintenance? I assume that $5-6k I'm willing to spend would get me through a few years?

I have gyno from finasteride too and had a similar idea to you, interested in the answer as well

 

[Manochoice]

Surgery seems the best way to go for Gyno