finasteride side effects

magid

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ive been on finasteride 1mg daily for about a month now and have experienced:

testicular shrinkage - shrunk a little then remained that size
on and off testicle pain - gradually getting better
one testicle seems more pushed forward than the other, and doesnt hang as low
less ejaculate
and most recently --- penis bent to the left (while erected)

the bent penis is really what scares me most.

is this reason to quit? could it possibly get better without quitting?

please help. thank you
 

Wuffer

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While i'm extremely skeptical that being on finasteride for a month would cause your penis to become bent while erect, or permanently alter the orientation of your testicles, the other symptoms you mention were likely caused by finasteride. The testicular pain will go away soon.

Back to your bent penis; is it bent like half way, or does it just point out slightly crooked? Are you 100% sure this is happening and your mind isn't just playing tricks on you?

A number of guys have reported this from Finasteride use, but I haven't personally seen any evidence that finasteride causes this. If you believe that finasteride is causing this, talk to your doctor IMMEDIATELY and show him exactly what's going on. Talk to your doctor first, but I wouldn't continue on finasteride if it's giving you problems like that.
 

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If your balls are shrinking you really need to get off that drug. Seriously, come away from these hair loss forums for a second and think about what your doing? you are still taking a drug that is shrinking your balls and effecting your semen.

I didn't have anything like those side effects ON the drug, apart from watery semen and yet a year after quitting my body is completely screwed up from using it. No more needs to be said.
 

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Wuffer said:
While i'm extremely skeptical that being on finasteride for a month would cause your penis to become bent while erect, or permanently alter the orientation of your testicles, the other symptoms you mention were likely caused by finasteride. The testicular pain will go away soon.

Back to your bent penis; is it bent like half way, or does it just point out slightly crooked? Are you 100% sure this is happening and your mind isn't just playing tricks on you?

A number of guys have reported this from Finasteride use, but I haven't personally seen any evidence that finasteride causes this. If you believe that finasteride is causing this, talk to your doctor IMMEDIATELY and show him exactly what's going on. Talk to your doctor first, but I wouldn't continue on finasteride if it's giving you problems like that.

Its more like there is a bend in it. I will make an appointment with my gp. I believe it is really happening.

I really want to continue finasteride as it has drastically reduced my shedding. I hope i am not forced to quit.
 

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Have your GP verify what's going on.

While it's human nature to jump to finasteride being the cause, can you recall any physical trauma to your penis that may have occurred in the last couple months? The condition you describe is called Pyronie's Disease, and the primary cause is physical trauma. This would be trauma while your penis is erect, so if it was bent during sex or maybe falling on it or whatever, it could cause this condition.

Again, people have anecdotally reported this occurring during/after Finasteride use. It has not yet been verified to have a casual relationship from Finasteride, and neither has shrunken testicles. However, this doesn't mean it's not possible in extremely rare cases; it may just be so rare that it's never been seen in a clinical setting.

But in the end, if your GP thinks finasteride might be causing these physical problems, I wouldn't even consider staying on it. Pyronie's can be permanent, and may require surgery or a prosthetic implant to rectify.
 

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magid said:
I really want to continue finasteride as it has drastically reduced my shedding. I hope i am not forced to quit.

probably ur GP will not consider finasteride as cause of urs symptoms in according with merck statistics

no way to consider others hair treatments?
however i would consider discontinuation just for precaution.
 

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Wuffer said:
Have your GP verify what's going on.

While it's human nature to jump to finasteride being the cause, can you recall any physical trauma to your penis that may have occurred in the last couple months? The condition you describe is called Pyronie's Disease, and the primary cause is physical trauma. This would be trauma while your penis is erect, so if it was bent during sex or maybe falling on it or whatever, it could cause this condition.

Again, people have anecdotally reported this occurring during/after Finasteride use. It has not yet been verified to have a casual relationship from Finasteride, and neither has shrunken testicles. However, this doesn't mean it's not possible in extremely rare cases; it may just be so rare that it's never been seen in a clinical setting.

But in the end, if your GP thinks finasteride might be causing these physical problems
, I wouldn't even consider staying on it. Pyronie's can be permanent, and may require surgery or a prosthetic implant to rectify.


Man you keep talking about GP's. Maybe you know different GP's than I know but most of GP's i know don't have a bloody clue about finasteride. One with any real knowledge on the subject would be very much an exception to the rule...
 

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The bent penis cannot be caused by finasteride. There is no logical reason for the effects of finasteride to cause your penis to suddenly 'lean' to any particular direction.

A lot of people on finasteride complain of less ejaculate, this seems to be pretty common, don't worry about it too much right now.

Testicle ache is another common side effect. You've said it's reduced or seems to be going away, that's good.

I noticed when I first started finasteride my testicles did seem to come "up" a little bit, I was kind of scared they were shrinking, but everything went back to normal over time.

Are you still able to get and maintain an erection? Did you get morning erections regularly before finasteride? If so, do you still get them? These questions are a little better for diagnosing finasteride side effect problems.
 

magid

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thankfully my libido is totally fine. the only concerns i have really are the "curve" and shrinkage. i hope things do go back to normal without having to quit.
 

TheGrayMan2001

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magid said:
thankfully my libido is totally fine. the only concerns i have really are the "curve" and shrinkage. i hope things do go back to normal without having to quit.

I don't understand how finasteride can possibly make it curve to the left or whatever it's doing. There's no logical reason for it.

Everything should start to return to normal, stop worrying about it for now. If you wanted, you could reduce doseage temporarily to say .5 mg and see if that helps.
 

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TheGrayMan2001 said:
I don't understand how finasteride can possibly make it curve to the left or whatever it's doing. There's no logical reason for it.
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there's a scientific evidence in studies on animals
shrinkage, fibrosis, changing penile tissues

if i remember well, it was finfighter that posted about this
 

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Mens rea, anyone suffering from any kind of health problems should first and foremost consult with their personal physician; absolutely no question. I know you don't believe GP's know anything, but nobody should EVER self-diagnose based on what they read online. It's dangerous, and quite frankly, stupid. It doesn’t matter what the symptoms are, or whether or not you are 100% sure what the cause is.

His GP will more than likely be able to diagnose the problem with his penis. It may be nothing, or it may be something. It may require a referral to an urologist. Maybe it's caused by another medication, or maybe like I mentioned, it resulted from trauma. Maybe it's inconclusive and nobody knows what's causing it. If it reaches that point, then maybe it's a good idea to consider other possible causes, such as Finasteride.

Do you suggest that he not consult with his doctor? Should he go on propeciahelp and self-diagnose based on other peoples experiences?
 

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Propecia said:
TheGrayMan2001 said:
I don't understand how finasteride can possibly make it curve to the left or whatever it's doing. There's no logical reason for it.
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there's a scientific evidence in studies on animals
shrinkage, fibrosis, changing penile tissues

if i remember well, it was finfighter that posted about this


Hi Propecia,

There is a single study (that i'm aware of) involving rats that showed damage to penile tissue resulting from high dosages of finasteride; roughly 300 times the dosage humans receive.

This study is interesting, and it may lead to further tests on humans. However, a study such as this does not imply causation in human use at human dosages.
 

Mens Rea

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Wuffer said:
Propecia said:
TheGrayMan2001 said:
I don't understand how finasteride can possibly make it curve to the left or whatever it's doing. There's no logical reason for it.
.

there's a scientific evidence in studies on animals
shrinkage, fibrosis, changing penile tissues

if i remember well, it was finfighter that posted about this


Hi Propecia,

There is a single study (that i'm aware of) involving rats that showed damage to penile tissue resulting from high dosages of finasteride; roughly 300 times the dosage humans receive.

This study is interesting, and it may lead to further tests on humans. However, a study such as this does not imply causation in human use at human dosages.

Studies are proving that DHT and NO (Nitric Oxide) are hugely important for the penis though. It's not hard to see that strong links are here especially with the consistent nature of reports of atrophy and suchlike on PH. Myself included.
 

Mens Rea

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Wuffer said:
Mens rea, anyone suffering from any kind of health problems should first and foremost consult with their personal physician; absolutely no question. I know you don't believe GP's know anything, but nobody should EVER self-diagnose based on what they read online. It's dangerous, and quite frankly, stupid. It doesn’t matter what the symptoms are, or whether or not you are 100% sure what the cause is.

Who mentioned self-diagnosing etc?

I simply said, you don't need a GP to tell you to go off finasteride or not. It's your body, if you suspect it's effecting you negatively its your call. A GP will have very limited insight into this area.

His GP will more than likely be able to diagnose the problem with his penis. It may be nothing, or it may be something. It may require a referral to an urologist. Maybe it's caused by another medication, or maybe like I mentioned, it resulted from trauma. Maybe it's inconclusive and nobody knows what's causing it. If it reaches that point, then maybe it's a good idea to consider other possible causes, such as Finasteride.

Do you suggest that he not consult with his doctor? Should he go on propeciahelp and self-diagnose based on other peoples experiences?


As per above.

All im saying is i've read multiple times you telling people to speak to their doctor about finasteride sides and stuff and whether they should consider cessation of the drug. That is just generic advice that sounds like a textbook answer on paper. The reality is much different. The GP doesn't have a f*****g clue (in almost all cases).

It's not long ago GP's would have universally told you all ED was in your head. Now we are at a stage where Cialis etc etc is widely used. Sexual dysfunction is still massively misunderstood even among the specialists, so expecting a GP to have much of an idea is misguided at best and dangerous at worst.

My advice is get off a drug you are using for cosmetic reasons immediately if you feel it messing with your normal body functions. That doesn't need a doctor.

A question for you: Have you ever discussed these things with a GP? Or even a Urologist? Well, i have. Believe me, you'll leave their office more lost than you came in.

Having had this personal experience myself, as well as seeing this same experience practically unaniminously across the net, I think you should appreciate why i find your continous references to a GP being a source of real knowledge on the subject as patently unhelpful in the real world.
 

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Wuffer said:
Hi Propecia,

There is a single study (that i'm aware of) involving rats that showed damage to penile tissue resulting from high dosages of finasteride

This study is interesting, and it may lead to further tests on humans.

hi wuffer,
yes i think was that study.

i don't remember the parameters, but surely the dosage was more higher than umans.

unfortunately ther's not a direct scientific implications with different dosage and different species, but post marketing reports shows that possibility

i would like to see long term assumption studies, but for now we have to wait
 
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