Good results after 6 months

Scuzz

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I started using minoxidil in the beginning of the year but with no particularly good results, so I added Revivogen sometime in May and have been using both on a daily basis since then.

I took pictures of my progress in June, July and most recently in December. Progress was slow but I have completely stopped losing hair and have managed to get regrowth on some of the bald spots.

I'm 27 and have been losing hair quite fast since I was 23.


June 2006
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July 2006
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December
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tchehov

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Keep up the good work, man - are you considering an internal (finasteride, dutasteride)?
 

emo

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Dude, you hair looks great in the December pic, keep that cut and everything! A huge improvement since day 1, congratulations!

Also don't look into the flash shots too much, hair generally tends to reflect a lot of light, so it makes it look a hell of a lot worse than it actually is. Also minoxidil hairs start off lighter and darken up over time. Your hair looks fine now, so enjoy it :)

Keep going and all the best!

-- emo.
 

WorldofWarcraft

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emo said:
Dude, you hair looks great in the December pic, keep that cut and everything! A huge improvement since day 1, congratulations!

Also don't look into the flash shots too much, hair generally tends to reflect a lot of light, so it makes it look a hell of a lot worse than it actually is. Also minoxidil hairs start off lighter and darken up over time. Your hair looks fine now, so enjoy it :)

Keep going and all the best!

-- emo.

I wouldn't say his hair looks great. The sooner he realizes the true state of his hair,the sooner he will get on a DHT blocker *cough* dutastride.

Using minoxidil to battle male pattern baldness alone is like using a bunch of newspaper to snuff out a fire. Yeah you might get some results but a lot of it is going to waste.

He regimen sucks. He isn't even addressing DHT.
 

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If you are concerned about synthetic DHT blockers try Epilobium instead, which I also use, however I have been told it can also block Estradiol.
 
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I also see an improvement in December but for such an advanced stage of hair loss he will probably need an internal drug such as Proscar or Dutasteride. At least spironolactone cream should be part of his regimen if he wants to stick with topicals only.
 

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I agree, you need to add to your regime, minoxidil alone with not do the job.

I would drop revivogen, I think its a waste of money. I would add in finasteride at the very least. Another angle you can hit it from would be the inflammation/immune response, possibly using either nizoral or tea tree oil shampoo and some anti-inflammatory internals. You need to fight it on different fronts if you want a chance of making a nice change.
 

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WorldofWarcraft said:
emo said:
Dude, you hair looks great in the December pic, keep that cut and everything! A huge improvement since day 1, congratulations!

Also don't look into the flash shots too much, hair generally tends to reflect a lot of light, so it makes it look a hell of a lot worse than it actually is. Also minoxidil hairs start off lighter and darken up over time. Your hair looks fine now, so enjoy it :)

Keep going and all the best!

-- emo.

I wouldn't say his hair looks great. The sooner he realizes the true state of his hair,the sooner he will get on a DHT blocker *cough* dutastride.

Yeah, that's great advice, stuff your body full of a drug that may have long-term side effects and has not been properly tested! You may have a full head of hair in 10 years time, but you may just as well have a head full of brain damage to go along with it.

And for your information, Revivogen is a DHT inhibitor. Just because it is topical doesn't mean it doesn't work, last time i checked minoxidil was a topical solution.

It is blatently obvious that a lot of people on this forum are scared of their treatment and their reassurance comes from enough people taking the same drug so that if there are negative sides hopefully they will happen to someone else first.

Whether you like it or not he blatently IS gaining more hair on topicals and I can't believe you and others who replied to this post are being such a bunch of arses about it!
 

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emo they are just trying to help him
i think that evertbody who cares about his hair enough should be on dutasteride but i dont go around conviencing people to get on it because i feel if they like their hair enough they will find it by themselfs and if not that's just their problem
you dont know the long time effect of many things yet you still do them
its just a matter of what comes first i guess for me for Wow and for taugenichts the hair comes first
 
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roki said:
emo they are just trying to help him
i think that evertbody who cares about his hair enough should be on dutasteride but i dont go around conviencing people to get on it because i feel if they like their hair enough th will find it by themselfs and if not that's just there problem
you dont know the long time effect of mant things yet you still do them
its just a matter of what comes first i guess for me for Wow and for taugenichts the hair comes first

and for me haha. yeah i agree . if someone doesn't wanna get on it, i'm not gonna push. it's their hair and it's their decision. i'll just enjoy my luscious hair while they try out natural stuff.
 

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JayMan said:
roki said:
emo they are just trying to help him
i think that evertbody who cares about his hair enough should be on dutasteride but i dont go around conviencing people to get on it because i feel if they like their hair enough th will find it by themselfs and if not that's just there problem
you dont know the long time effect of mant things yet you still do them
its just a matter of what comes first i guess for me for Wow and for taugenichts the hair comes first

and for me haha. yeah i agree . if someone doesn't wanna get on it, i'm not gonna push. it's their hair and it's their decision. i'll just enjoy my luscious hair while they try out natural stuff.

What question that the naturalists keep dodging is this, If something is natural but having a large impact on your body, how do they know that its side effects are any better than a manufactured drug?

Are things from nature magically free of all side-effects?

Has that revivegin or whatever that crap emo pushes been tested for long term effects on the body or does he just assume his products are safe and others need 10 year studies? Maybe his overpriced and worthless shampoo will give him skin cancer?
 

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WorldofWarcraft said:
Has that revivegin or whatever that crap emo pushes been tested for long term effects on the body or does he just assume his products are safe and others need 10 year studies? Maybe his overpriced and worthless shampoo will give him skin cancer?

I don't use Revivogen, nor am i trying to push it. But you claimed that Scuzz was not tackling the problem of DHT when in fact he was.

I make no assumptions about the products I use but instead rely upon information from reliable sources of research and upon advice from recognised professionals. Advising someone to use dutasteride in my opinion is very irresponsible and potentially dangerous having very little knowledge of possible side effects. If you told your doctor that you were taking dutasteride to combat your hair loss what do you think their reaction would be?

If you do yourself long term damage for a short-term gain, then seriously, your hair will be the least of your worries. Sure nothing is completely safe, but risks can be lowered by acting responsibly instead of acting through desperation.
 
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emo,

revivogen is almost without a doub much weaker than finasteride or dutasteride at blocking DHT.
 

emo

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I'm not saying Revivogen is stronger or even comes close to finasteride. But it does help block DHT even if not to the extent finasteride does. Even if it doesn't stop your hair loss it is helping slow it down and combined with minoxidil is helping improve you chances of maintaining.

I also have no problem with people recommending finasteride either. It is a recognised drug, with adequate trials and research for it to receive FDA approval.

But recommending a drug that even experts know very little about like dutasteride is irresponsible and could lead to some horrible consequences. It is like recommending them proscar!

All i am saying is think carefully and don't just believe what people say in these forums, few (if any) are experts on these drugs, even if they think or claim they are. Just use some common sense that's all.
 
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emo said:
But recommending a drug that even experts know very little about like dutasteride is irresponsible and could lead to some horrible consequences. It is like recommending them proscar!

sorry buddy,

by adding that proscar thing at the end, you just made it very hard for me to take you seriously. proscar is finasteride, just like propecia is. so when someone recommends taking proscar instead of propecia, they're recommending the same thing: that the person take finasteride. the fact that you don't know that proscar is also finasteride says a lot.
 

emo

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you would think that wouldn't you? But in fact proscar is 5mg finasteride, whereas finasteride for hair loss, i.e. propecia is FDA approved at 1mg.

I would in no way recommend anyone take 5mg, since that is the dose required to treat prostate cancer.

Sorry if i caused you any confusion JayMan, but nice try attempting to 'show me up'.
 

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emo said:
you would think that wouldn't you? But in fact proscar is 5mg finasteride, whereas finasteride for hair loss, i.e. propecia is FDA approved at 1mg.

I would in no way recommend anyone take 5mg, since that is the dose required to treat prostate cancer.

Sorry if i caused you any confusion JayMan, but nice try attempting to 'show me up'.
the guy has over 4000 posts here, if he dosnt know proscar has 5 mg of finastride in it who does?
 
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emo said:
you would think that wouldn't you? But in fact proscar is 5mg finasteride, whereas finasteride for hair loss, i.e. propecia is FDA approved at 1mg.

I would in no way recommend anyone take 5mg, since that is the dose required to treat prostate cancer.

Sorry if i caused you any confusion JayMan, but nice try attempting to 'show me up'.

of course they are different doses, smart guy. if they were the same then why would there be two different brand names for the same drug?

but i don't think many people on here are recommending taking 5 mg of proscar a day, even though it would probably be totally safe. bryan has said that people could probably take up to 20 mg of finasteride with no permanent negative results.
 

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emo said:
you would think that wouldn't you? But in fact proscar is 5mg finasteride, whereas finasteride for hair loss, i.e. propecia is FDA approved at 1mg.

I would in no way recommend anyone take 5mg, since that is the dose required to treat prostate cancer.

Sorry if i caused you any confusion JayMan, but nice try attempting to 'show me up'.

When people recommend proscar it's implied that you cut it into 4ths or 5ths.
 
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