Guys, be very mindful of the risks of propecia

[Mens Rea]

i took propecia for the past 6 months after deciding it wasnt too much of a risk. As far as i know i didnt have any adverse results

However, ive looked up the sideeffects further (google 'propecia side effects') and i found so many websites dedicated to the hidden risk of finasteride.

I think many of you guys, just like me are getting too hung up on their hair and are lossing perspective of things. If you want play with your fertility, prostrate glands, and other related areas then fine but i do worry most of you are playing with fire. On the biggest scale of things, hair is a luxury but hardly an intergral part of existence. Your health is. However bad you might feel about balding, you'll feel 10x worse if you do yourself any damage and then look back and think 'i only thought i had problems'.


The real truth is, most of us guys on here are here for more than the reason that our hair is thinning/balding and that is, we've got a relatively sound life otherwise. Because if balding is causing us so much concern it shows we've nothing real bad to worry about.
As much as i hate my hair thinning,if theres 2% risk of side effect in those areas then its simply a non-sense risk. Remember propecia doesnt even work miracles so the benefit vrs cost is often suspect.


Anyway, ive now stopped it after a chat with my girlfriend. When i told her of the risks (however slight, although more so unknown than slight!!) she told me to 'wise up'. I can deal with a receeding hairline but putting my health a risk is no reason for any insecurity or vanity that we have.


Im not trying to talk everyone out of it, just to be more mindful about things. To be more specific ive read of numerous cases of impotence (thus far unrecovered), erectile dysfunction, distorted sperm level and semen volume etc etc. The report about it citing propecia carries no permanet effects etc is allegedely very misleading and people are taking the drafter to court ive read (certainly seeking legal advise)


Im currently looking for a good replacement for finasteride with no/relatively no side effects. Topical things seem the best bet. Taking a tablet for the rest of your life every day isnt really all that clever all things considered.

Anyway, hope ive made some of you guys have a second think about things. Disproportional risks are bad ones.


P.S- However, for those already on it and swear by it, ive got 2 or so months supply of the 1mg finasteride (therefore not proscar). If anyone wants it and are already taking it they can have it very cheap. Im not giving it to anyone thinking about starting however as i dont want to be the reason for anyone to start. Hope im not being a hypocrite here, but if someones gona use it anyway i might as well offload mine and help them

 

[dietcola]

so you went on a drug that is supposed to work best from 6-12 months, and then quit the drug at the 6 month mark? ohhhhhkay mr. "let's think logically".

i guess all those people whining about permanent side effects have gotten through to someone! you are a smart man, i'm sure no vehicle is safe enough for you either right? because almost every vehicle manufacturer today has an internet site or two full of people complaining about their cars. airbags that go off on their own, engine bays that start on fire.

"too hung up on their hair and losing perspective on things".

don't get me started on perspective, because each person has their own. so slander a drug all you want, but don't sh*t on people's perspective. so many people getting risky cosmetic surgery, just to look better in a world where looks really can make the difference in how successful you are. all us finasteride/dutasteride users are trying to do is maintain some of our natural good looks that are degrading away.

you mention that taking a pill is something you don't want to do everyday for the rest of your life? haha, enjoy those topicals mate! i guess your gonna use the once a month ones right?

also, tell me your thoughts on the evil drug that is birth control.

 

[walker8476]

Do you read the ingedients of the deodorant you used this morning and researched the long term effect of the chemicals in them? Do you read the ingredients of the toothpaste that you use or the shaving cream, after shave, hair gel, sun screen, mouth wash, dental floss, shampoo, soap, medicines and all the food that you eat?

Ask your girlfriend whether she does research about all the chemicals they put in cosmetics. What are the long term effects? I found this in just a few seconds;

"Preservative chemicals found in samples of breast tumours probably came from underarm deodorants[, UK scientists have claimed.

Their analysis of 20 breast tumours found high concentrations of para-hydroxybenzoic acids (parabens) in 18 samples. Parabens can mimic the hormone estrogen, which is known to play a role in the development of breast cancers. The preservatives are used in many cosmetics and some foods to increase their shelf-life."

Oh and this about food....

"Low levels of man-made chemicals in basic foods such as brown bread, butter and milk could combine to harm humans, a conservation charity has warned. WWF-UK said scientific tests link the chemicals to hormonal changes, cancers and immune deficiencies"

I bet you use a mobile phone and I'm sure you've eaten food out of a microwave and sat in front of a computer for many hours.

Like many people, I'm on antidepressants....these things mess around with the chemicals in your brain!

All these chemicals are absorbed by your body every single day of your life. With a lot of these chemicals, no one knows what the long term effects are.

So with all of the hundreds of chemicals which you absorb each day, why are you only concerned about one?

 

[Jojje]

i took propecia for the past 6 months after deciding it wasnt too much of a risk. As far as i know i didnt have any adverse results

However, ive looked up the sideeffects further (google 'propecia side effects') and i found so many websites dedicated to the hidden risk of finasteride.

I think many of you guys, just like me are getting too hung up on their hair and are lossing perspective of things. If you want play with your fertility, prostrate glands, and other related areas then fine but i do worry most of you are playing with fire. On the biggest scale of things, hair is a luxury but hardly an intergral part of existence. Your health is. However bad you might feel about balding, you'll feel 10x worse if you do yourself any damage and then look back and think 'i only thought i had problems'.


The real truth is, most of us guys on here are here for more than the reason that our hair is thinning/balding and that is, we've got a relatively sound life otherwise. Because if balding is causing us so much concern it shows we've nothing real bad to worry about.
As much as i hate my hair thinning,if theres 2% risk of side effect in those areas then its simply a non-sense risk. Remember propecia doesnt even work miracles so the benefit vrs cost is often suspect.


Anyway, ive now stopped it after a chat with my girlfriend. When i told her of the risks (however slight, although more so unknown than slight!!) she told me to 'wise up'. I can deal with a receeding hairline but putting my health a risk is no reason for any insecurity or vanity that we have.


Im not trying to talk everyone out of it, just to be more mindful about things. To be more specific ive read of numerous cases of impotence (thus far unrecovered), erectile dysfunction, distorted sperm level and semen volume etc etc. The report about it citing propecia carries no permanet effects etc is allegedely very misleading and people are taking the drafter to court ive read (certainly seeking legal advise)


Im currently looking for a good replacement for finasteride with no/relatively no side effects. Topical things seem the best bet. Taking a tablet for the rest of your life every day isnt really all that clever all things considered.

Anyway, hope ive made some of you guys have a second think about things. Disproportional risks are bad ones.


P.S- However, for those already on it and swear by it, ive got 2 or so months supply of the 1mg finasteride (therefore not proscar). If anyone wants it and are already taking it they can have it very cheap. Im not giving it to anyone thinking about starting however as i dont want to be the reason for anyone to start. Hope im not being a hypocrite here, but if someones gona use it anyway i might as well offload mine and help them

Did you alsow notice that some of the people having those insane Sides are on Anti Depresents :lol: strange hmmm :lol:

Well there are alot of thing we dont know.. like some of the whitening touthpaste we use can make you non effective on Antibiotica...
Potatos and white bread can destroy youre intestinals... Eating at Mc-donnalds and Burger King 3 or more times a week can destroy youre liver.
ANd so on and so on... many dangerous things out there that can destroy our lives... 2% chanse for a litle less libido.. and some brain fog... that dissapairs after stopping medication... well i think many off us will take that risk... well the so called sides didnt dissapair for some of those Other persons..thats what they say.. maibe its their other special AD medication or what else they put in their body that could be making some sides.....
Just saying :lol:

 

[jc444]

Colin,

if you would prefer not to use finasteride then thats great for you. But you shouldn't be going on about disproportionate risks because thats rubbish. For me, i see finasteride as very low risk which offer very great rewards. The risk may be disproportionate for you, but not for me. Me and you are different.

I don't get it why people are so scared of finasteride. There is a very low chance you will gets sides, and if you do, then you can stop! No harm done. This is pretty simple stuff really.

 

[roki]

haha colin's gonna get back on it sooner or later

 

[Stu85]

Anyway, hope ive made some of you guys have a second think about things.

Nope.

finasteride is one the safest drugs out there. Not only are side effects relatively rare, but they are tame compared to those found in most other drugs.

Hope you enjoy going bald.

 

[MPBWarrior]

it also hasn't been mentioned that there are people that genetically don't have 5ar II that creates DHT in the prostate and in hair follicles. what other drug has a real-life group to compare itself to? there's no doubt that you're safer not taking finasteride than taking it! you can't take medicine and expect NOTHING else to happen to you apart from what you want it to. even if you don't notice sides, it's doing something to your body. but as far as a drug goes, it doesn't get much safer than finasteride.

 

[Mens Rea]

ok i respect everyones viewpoints.

didnt realise some of you felt so strongly about it. all im saying it for you guys to have the risks weighed up right because sometimes you dont when you get carried away with the fear of baldness. just saying to have an open mind and consider it fully.

as i said, many many people are reporting thus far permanent damage (unlike whats been said about it self-correcting after stopping) so just be weary with that.


please also remember propecia rarely works miracles anyway so the 'enjoy going bald' comments are hardly really meaningful. chances are ill go bald anyway even if at a fast rate its just procrastinating the inevitable.


using examples of mc donalds burgers is also misleading. This drug plays with your hormones and it wasnt even made for hair-loss but instead prostrate problems.

I know everyones situation is different but for me to risk my fertility is crazy. If some of you already have kids etc thats different but as a 21 year old potence is really important to me.

 

[MPBWarrior]

please also remember propecia rarely works miracles anyway so the 'enjoy going bald' comments are hardly really meaningful. chances are ill go bald anyway even if at a fast rate its just procrastinating the inevitable.

propecia and dutasteride are the only 2 realistic things we have today to maintain our hair. as far as i know, there is nothing that comes even close.

I know everyones situation is different but for me to risk my fertility is crazy. If some of you already have kids etc thats different but as a 21 year old potence is really important to me

u shouldn't be saying loss of fertility is a side effect from finasteride just because a few people had it. we all know the possibility is there and this is why we come to forums like these all the time and learn as much as possible about finasteride consequences. but saying something like 'i don't want to jeaperdize my fertility by going on finasteride' is irrational as it has been proven on numerous times and is even FDA approved to be taken while conceiving that it shouldn't affect your sperm count.

don't think we don;'t want u to express your opinion. please do! we're all hear to learn from each other. but the reason so many people got upset at your post is because it was a little biased![/quote]

 

[Mens Rea]

my i add propecia gave my ball ache sometimes. hardly a good sign when its making your testicles tender man

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

my i add propecia gave my ball ache sometimes. hardly a good sign when its making your testicles tender man

Wow..my balls ached for the first week or two and it went away...Ive been on it for 8 months now with no problems....I still wake up every morning hard as a rock... a couple of my friends are on it as well and they have no problems...btw, we are all in our early 20s. So propecia is only delaying the inevitable huh? well if propecia can keep you above baseline for 10+ years (and it should) thats a pretty good deal to me.

 

[dietcola]

i got a slight ball ache for about 2 hours one day during the first week. and i think i might only have noticed it because i was anticipating it.

it's been over 3 months for me now and i'm as good now as i've ever been. hard erections, strong libido, good endurance, normal volume of ejaculate...if not more. and not that watery ejaculate that runs off her face either, the thick white stuff that oozes out when she squeezes :lol:

colin you used it for 6 months you say, was your manhood affected at all?

i like the point that male pattern baldness warrior made as well, that the changes finasteride is making in your body are changes already present in alot of other guys, who consequently aren't subject to male pattern baldness.

 

[Mens Rea]

i got a slight ball ache for about 2 hours one day during the first week. and i think i might only have noticed it because i was anticipating it.

it's been over 3 months for me now and i'm as good now as i've ever been. hard erections, strong libido, good endurance, normal volume of ejaculate...if not more. and not that watery ejaculate that runs off her face either, the thick white stuff that oozes out when she squeezes :lol:

colin you used it for 6 months you say, was your manhood affected at all?

i like the point that male pattern baldness warrior made as well, that the changes finasteride is making in your body are changes already present in alot of other guys, who consequently aren't subject to male pattern baldness.

no i dont think my manhood was affected mate - certainly not to a point that i noticed anyway.

 

[UK1]

I experienced ball ache within a week, it still comes and goes every few days although usually very mild, once or twice it has been painful..

 

[Axl15]

ive gotten ball aches and im not on finasteride, once i couldnt get it up with a girl cause i was depressed if i was on finasteride it would be easier to blame it . . . i still dont know why i dont get it on it maybe its people like colin i have a tendency to worry.

 

[Sir Guy of Frizzbourne]

Seems like every time someone tries to warn everyone of side effects on this website, they just get trashed for it. Colin's just trying to help. I know you guys don't want to give up finasteride, and to be honest, if I hadn't experienced sides, I'd probably still be on it too, but for the record, I've heard a lot of stories about permanent sides (sexual), and they seem to happen most to the guys who have been on it for several years, like 7-10. How many people on this site can say they've been on it that long? All of their stories also start with having amazing results and no sides until the end. Could that mean that the more it affects your hair, the more it affects you in negative ways? How long do you think Merck monitored for sides in it's test volunteers? I doubt 10 years. I know I am desperate for more hair, but at the same time, I am somewhat relieved to have gotten the sides early and dropped finasteride early because now I don't have to live with the fear that one day I will be impotent. I know I would not have been strong enough to drop it without the sides because I am so desperate. Dealing with barely any sex drive for a month took so much feeling out of my life. I could not imagine being like that the rest of my life.

 

[dietcola]

Seems like every time someone tries to warn everyone of side effects on this website, they just get trashed for it. Colin's just trying to help. I know you guys don't want to give up finasteride, and to be honest, if I hadn't experienced sides, I'd probably still be on it too, but for the record, I've heard a lot of stories about permanent sides (sexual), and they seem to happen most to the guys who have been on it for several years, like 7-10. How many people on this site can say they've been on it that long? All of their stories also start with having amazing results and no sides until the end. Could that mean that the more it affects your hair, the more it affects you in negative ways? How long do you think Merck monitored for sides in it's test volunteers? I doubt 10 years. I know I am desperate for more hair, but at the same time, I am somewhat relieved to have gotten the sides early and dropped finasteride early because now I don't have to live with the fear that one day I will be impotent. I know I would not have been strong enough to drop it without the sides because I am so desperate. Dealing with barely any sex drive for a month took so much feeling out of my life. I could not imagine being like that the rest of my life.

it happens all the time. people who have had side effects come in here and share their insight with us all about how it might not all be worth it.

under success stories we should have a section titled "horror stories" and everyone can whine in there.

the fact is, MOST people don't have sides that force them to quit. we have made the decision to use this drug to treat our hairloss and we don't respond well to naysayers comming in and telling us how much of a risk were taking every day. we're trying to improve our quality of life and having to defend out decisions here is stupid.

 

[Lorenzo_91]

Actually that makes sense that ED will be onset after many years because of the collagen build up in the tissue that can or cannot be exacerbated by propecia.

We naturally are collecting this collagen fibers as we age in our smooth muscles like heart and the penis for what I understand.

So we hope we are not speeding it up really. It's all in the Rat Study.

Can somebody post the Rat Study. I love that study.

I love those mighty rats.