Guys that aren't "balding" that are using hair loss treatments..

[Goldee Lox]

Anyone think there's a percentage of guys out there that use hair loss treatments, whatever they may be even though they "technically" don't need them? Bros with solid hair boosting with minoxidil and other things.. I think there are probably more than you would think.

 

[wilson2]

I'm sure their out there. However, I bet there are a lot more guys who are using treatments who maybe are only destined to be like a Norwood 2 or like 2.5 or maybe even just a maturing hairline. Partly why I feel different from most on here where I feel finasteride+dutasteride should be used as a last resort as oppose to a first resort. If your hairline is changing a bit when you're like 25 and it's only going to end up being like a Norwood 2 for the next 20 years without treatments; does it really make sense to inhibit a large amount of DHT for an extended period of time? In my opinion the first thing a guy should hop on is keto shampoo (no sides), then consider rogaine (no bad sides IMO), then even S5 and basically only take Propecia/dutasteride if they get to like a NW2.5 under 22 or thin severely etc. Though I know that it's not a popular opinion. Most guys here feel that finasteride should be the first thing you add.

 

[Goldee Lox]

I'm sure their out there. However, I bet there are a lot more guys who are using treatments who maybe are only destined to be like a Norwood 2 or like 2.5 or maybe even just a maturing hairline. Partly why I feel different from most on here where I feel finasteride+dutasteride should be used as a last resort as oppose to a first resort. If your hairline is changing a bit when you're like 25 and it's only going to end up being like a Norwood 2 for the next 20 years without treatments; does it really make sense to inhibit a large amount of DHT for an extended period of time? In my opinion the first thing a guy should hop on is keto shampoo (no sides), then consider rogaine (no bad sides IMO), then even S5 and basically only take Propecia/dutasteride if they get to like a NW2.5 under 22 or thin severely etc. Though I know that it's not a popular opinion. Most guys here feel that finasteride should be the first thing you add.

I agree with you pretty much.. The difficult question is, How does a guy know if he's going to just have a mature hairline, or if he's going to progress on the Norwood scale? I think that's why some guys jump on finasteride, to preserve where they're at, not knowing future circumstance. I'm in that boat currently :/

I don't hate my hair, I just wish it was better.. I can style it very well still. I'm also not sure where my hair will be in further years.. I had a mature hairline in High School, it's only progressed rather slowly since. I'm 27 now.. I'm using 1% Nizoral, been using it for a few weeks. It seems like it's actually improving my hair.. I've used Minoxidil for a week, contemplating hopping off it and reevaluating my situation. For a guy like me, a topical antiandrogen like S5 or RU might be very beneficial. I hope I can find the right answers for myself and particular situation.. I love my hair too much to lose it :/ I'm driven to improve it.

 

[F2005]

We get guys like that on here all the time. Guys with mature hairlines that are an Norwood 1.5 or an Norwood 2 max. They're usually the guys who say stuff like "grow a backbone" or "take it on the chin" when real hair loss sufferers vent about hair loss ridicule.

 

[Goldee Lox]

We get guys like that on here all the time. Guys with mature hairlines that are an Norwood 1.5 or an Norwood 2 max. They're usually the guys who say stuff like "grow a backbone" or "take it on the chin" when real hair loss sufferers vent about hair loss ridicule.

Ha! I could imagine.. These types have no perspective.

 

[wilson2]

I agree with you pretty much.. The difficult question is, How does a guy know if he's going to just have a mature hairline, or if he's going to progress on the Norwood scale? I think that's why some guys jump on finasteride, to preserve where they're at, not knowing future circumstance. I'm in that boat currently :/

Yeah that's exactly the issue. While there are some useful tools to somewhat predict how and when hair loss will progress (ie if you're having deep recession on one side of your head at 16 you can be pretty damn sure that other side is going to catch up. or a rule of thumb I really agree with is that the younger the hair loss started the more severe you're programmed to bald). It can be like trying to predict the weather sometimes. I think one of the biggest advantages to finasteride is that it provides this sort of psychological safety net in terms of halting or really slowing balding for a pretty decent amount of time.


"I had a mature hairline in High School, it's only progressed rather slowly since. I'm 27 now."

That sounds very good for the case of you holding onto your hair for a long time. In my opinion guys who recede over a long period of time tend to keep most of their hair way longer than you'd expect. My brother basically started to recede at 22, he receded into like a NW2.5, but literally has kept the same hairline for 12+ years doing no treatments (and in fact using AAS).

I'm personally about to add in S5. I think you would be a perfect candidate for it. It may not be as strong as dutasteride or finasteride. However it really clinically has no possibility of going systematic. I'm not convinced on RU since it's super experimental, seems like a hassle, seems to potentially go systematic at higher dosages. Though if I lose grounds on S5 i'll probably consider RU way before finasteride or dutasteride.

 

[Hairloss23]

It is nice to think that your hairline may either be only maturing or if he is only going to reach NW2/2.5 at max, but you have to be realistic about these things, If your dad or granddad is bald, or your mothers dad/granddad, any uncles etc, then the chances are you. will. go. bald!

 

[Funkymonk1]

I'm a slow receeder too. I first noticed a very slight hair loss in my mid 20s. I'm 36 now and at most I've progressed to a Norwood 2.5. I guess I'm lucky in a way but I'm at the point where I can't ignore it any longer and I need to do something. Do people think you can actually do damage to your hair if you take these products when you don't really need them?

 

[Goldee Lox]

It is nice to think that your hairline may either be only maturing or if he is only going to reach NW2/2.5 at max, but you have to be realistic about these things, If your dad or granddad is bald, or your mothers dad/granddad, any uncles etc, then the chances are you. will. go. bald!

Very true. Hair loss can be so confusing sometimes :/

 

[Gt007]

I wasn't balding when I started finasteride

 

[shookwun]

I bet you Justin the twink Beiber is on finasteride.

Do to his knowledge on male pattern baldness, and the fact that his family has a genetic trace for hereditary hair loss.

 

[Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi]

Could be. Maybe thats the reason he looks so underdeveloped and supposedly using a penis pump,.

 

[I.D WALKER]

With so much suffering caused in great part by the aesthetically diminishing effects of male pattern baldness
I can almost appreciate these guys' presumably premature action to get an early jumpstart on preserving their hair
There may be a price to everything,
But I am living proof that "my plan" or course of inaction has despicably failed.

So although I am opposed to suggesting any/all early post adolescents
hop on an androgen inhibitor
I would at best send them off with sincerest "good luck" wishes,
not before I interjected a cautionary word
that you'ld be wise to first seek your physicians good counsel.

 

[pjhair]

I disagree. It's a really bad idea to take meds as preventive measure if there is no male pattern baldness. I am a living proof of that. I took finasteride as preventive measure when I was 27. My hair was extremely dense Norwood 0, like young Brad Pitt. Soon after starting finasteride, my hair started shedding at a massive rate. My hair became oily as well. Within 3 months of starting finasteride, my hair went from extremely dense Norowood 0 to Norwood 2. I stopped finasteride at 4 months but my hair never recovered. Hair loss meds should ONLY be taken if someone is really experiencing male pattern baldness.

 

[wilson2]

Yeah I think it's a tricky situation. Obviously people that aren't experiencing male pattern baldness shouldn't take male pattern baldness drugs. Though I can definitely understand someone seeing their hairline mature maybe at a quick rate and jumping to false conclusions. I guess a somewhat fail-safe method would be to do density scans on hair for a few months to try and see any indicators of male pattern baldness when in that early stage of "am I balding or not".

 

[pjhair]

I agree. People should periodically see ETHICAL hairtransplant doctors and get their hair mapped out for miniaturization. Meds should ONLY be taken if there is clear sign that if hair has started to miniaturize in classic male pattern baldness pattern.

 

[I.D WALKER]

That's a downright horrific experience you had/have from finasteride.
NWO, How did you get a physician's approval in the first place?
I can appreciate how my remarks may have been construed as reckless or irresponsible
therefore I'm glad you spoke your mind PJhair

It was not meant to serve as advice, but rather another chronically overplayed expression of characterizing both my personal frustrations with male pattern baldness and empathy for
anyone directly/indirectly impacted by it.

For the safety benefits of all future readers (sufferers/ young non-sufferers in particular)
I will clarify that in no way, shape, or form can I support the implementation of a preemptive strategy
to independently treat asymptomatic male pattern baldness or any condition in general
before an expert evaluation by a physician has been conducted and appropriate measures applied or prescribed.

 

[pjhair]

I didn't get phsyician approval to buy finasteride. I bought it from India where you can easily buy these kind of meds without prescription.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Okay that makes more sense.
Your adverse response was sudden (3-4 mth.?) How old are you now?
Have you looked into making an appt. with a hair specialist's yet?

 

[pjhair]

I am 34 years old now. It's been over 7 years since I quit finasteride. My hair continued to recede even after quitting finasteride but at a far slower rate than when I was on it. In the past 7 years, I went from Norwood 2 to Norwood 2.5. My hair is still oily which I hate. Before taking finasteride, they were dry and looked so healthy and beautiful. I am planning to see a good hair transplant doctor and get my hair mapped out for miniaturization. But I wouldn't know what to do even if he diagnoses me with male pattern baldness. I can't take finasteride due to adverse reactions. I guess I will have to try and see if minoxidil works. My hair was very similar in texture and quality to my maternal uncles who are Norwood 1 in their seventies. I don't think I would have gone bald anytime soon had I not taken finasteride.