Hair Loss, Just Another Insult To Add To An Already Miserable Life.

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Sorry guys,

bit of a rant
But i have so many issues in my life right now,

My social life is deteriorating, i suffer from depression/anxiety , got fired from my job, bills to pay, lost my aesthetics etc.

And just to top if off i have to deal with hair loss.

It's almost like i'm in a coffin and hair loss is the final nail.

I'm already struggling with so many other areas in my life and on top of it all i have to put up with my hair going? I mean really? Sometimes you just got to laugh at these things.

Anyone else in a similar position to me? It's almost like a cruel joke.
I constantly think i just wish i had a good hairline and no male pattern baldness. It would make life so much easier. I could just get my haircut once every few weeks,
put some product in it when i want it to look good, and not worry about it. But no. God / the world doesn't want me to be happy.
 

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I was extroverted, I was popular in school, I had high aspirations for my adult life. I worked out regularly and was in the best shape of my life. When my hair loss started at 17 though, it put an end to all of those things. It destroyed me in ways I didn't think were possible. I literally haven't made a new friend in 10+ years and am stuck in a dead end job, among countless other things that are symptomatic of the blow losing my hair so young has had.
 

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I can relate, the only partial solution to to prevent your life from becoming hell on earth because of hair loss is to have all the other areas of your life in order.

And you can definitely fix them one at a time, since all those problems do have solutions, unlike aggressive hair loss at a young age.

I know that it will be harder because of the burden that is hair loss, but unfortunately, there is no alternative. While you do that, I'd recommend that you keep on medicating your hair loss and most importantly design a hair transplant plan to restore your hair. Do it now.

As you incrementally improve your life, you'll see yourself getting more hair every day. That's the position I was in back in 2015, more and more hair (after having been slick bald) as I was taking part in a prestigious internship and my love life improved ten-folds before my eyes.

And that's what I'll experience again in 2018 as I've just had a second hair transplant a month ago. My relationship has never been better, I love my job and I can pursue my hobbies in my free time. Knock on wood, it's all good for now.

Well almost all good, life is rarely perfect at every level, I've recently lost touch with my two best friends because one can't stand the fact that I'm giving priority to my girlfriend and the other because he wants to give full priority to his girlfriend over me. Older people tell me that's very common as you get older. Ah well... As I told @CaptainForehead a few months ago, I was expecting this, so how do you make new friends in your late 20's?! Need normie advice!
When your transplant grows in, would you mind sharing your results with this forum?
 

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I can relate, the only partial solution to to prevent your life from becoming hell on earth because of hair loss is to have all the other areas of your life in order.

And you can definitely fix them one at a time, since all those problems do have solutions, unlike aggressive hair loss at a young age.

I know that it will be harder because of the burden that is hair loss, but unfortunately, there is no alternative. While you do that, I'd recommend that you keep on medicating your hair loss and most importantly design a hair transplant plan to restore your hair. Do it now.

As you incrementally improve your life, you'll see yourself getting more hair every day. That's the position I was in back in 2015, more and more hair (after having been slick bald) as I was taking part in a prestigious internship and my love life improved ten-folds before my eyes.

And that's what I'll experience again in 2018 as I've just had a second hair transplant a month ago. My relationship has never been better, I love my job and I can pursue my hobbies in my free time. Knock on wood, it's all good for now.

Well almost all good, life is rarely perfect at every level, I've recently lost touch with my two best friends because one can't stand the fact that I'm giving priority to my girlfriend and the other because he wants to give full priority to his girlfriend over me. Older people tell me that's very common as you get older. Ah well... As I told @CaptainForehead a few months ago, I was expecting this, so how do you make new friends in your late 20's?! Need normie advice!

I don't think having a girl friend necessarily means losing touch with friends. I have friends with wife and kids and we all still regularly hang out. As you get older, the only friends that stay with you are the ones who have similar thought process as you. Notice, I said "thought process", not views. I have made two really good friends at work in the past few years. One of them is an African American and the other is Mexican. They understand my thought process very well and know my views on Islam, immigration, racism , etc. So even though they disagree with me on these issues, they know my views are grounded in reason and evidence and not in bigotry. I am basically a republican and they democrat but we all have respect and appreciation for each other. These are the kind of friends that will stay with you. Also, having similar interests is absolutely critical.

I also have about 7 really good college friends. They are a diverse group of people. Four of them are Caucasians, one is black, one is Indian and one Nepali. We also differ in our political views. But we all are tied by mutual respect and understanding.

If you want to make a friends in your late twenties, my recommendation will be to truly be yourself. Share your views over time when you are comfortable but be truthful. If they don't like your views, fine. They would never have made good friends anyway. You come across as a guy who is truthful so I think you will be fine. But you also come across as a guy who is shy and sensitive so opening up may not be that easy for you.
 

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I've seen one of my best friend getting more and more distant and our meetings becoming less and less frequent. I could notice his girlfriend having increasingly more power over him, checking up on him every 5 minutes, I could see he hated it, he even told me he wanted to leave her, but somehow he ended up surrendering to her completely. At a point, he just stopped replying to my messages altogether.

Your friend is making a mistake. We should never abandon our family and friends because of a women. Romantic relationships can't be 100% relied upon. A women might love you today but who knows who she will love tomorrow, especially in today's time. Gone are those days when marriage used to be for life. Romantic relationships are so susceptible to change because of their nature. If a mother has a baby, she doesn't stop loving her other other kids. However, when it comes to romantic relationships, women immediately forget their partners if they are attracted to a new man. In fact a lot of times they turn hostile and suddenly start finding flaws in their partner. One can argue that men also forget their current partner when they are interested in another women. However, the hostility women demonstrate towards a man they loses interest in is not usually seen in men, at least in my experience. I could be wrong though.

Before all this happened, I also lost a friend from my teenage years that I had recaptured with because I became exclusive with my girlfriend. He enjoyed the fact that we could talk about the "sl*ts" we were f*****g just before I met her. His reaction to my decision to settle down was something along those lines: "Who the hell do you think you are? Do you really want to give up on your freedom? You're still young, you should have fun! What do you mean, true love?! That's all BS!"

Silence from him after that.
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To be honest, some of your friends sound immature. They are offended because you decided to settle down or doing well with the ladies? The problem is with them, not you.
 

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When I look back, I thought I was going to be in my friends' position and that they were going to be in mine. I was so immature a few years ago, I thought I'd go full-MGTOW my whole life, just f*****g girls here and there, dispose of them and never get serious. Well, that's not how it turned out. It was mostly my violent break-up with my ex got me to reflect on my behavior and my values.

Then I really thought I'd found someone special in my girlfriend, not because she's some perfect angel, but because she keeps it real, she never holds a grudge and if something bothers her, she'll tell me immediately. She can be harsh but in the end, she's always fair. At first I just couldn't comprehend it: why doesn't she ever act passive-aggressive? Why is she never mad at me? You know how a lot of women act: "You offended me but you'll have to guess why!".

Having her at my side has improved my life in many ways. Also, a year into our relationship, I discovered Jordan Peterson who made me understand why our relationship was working so well, and why my life had been improving so much. After so much trial and error and a journey to hell and back, I had gotten it mostly right.

Anyway, my closest friend didn't follow through, being Muslim, he almost asked for the hand of his girlfriend, with who he had been for 1.5 year, but instead he broke up with her, and came to me being like "let's go on holiday to other side of the world! Let's have fun!" While in my head, I'm thinking about settling in and starting a family. He knows this, and sometimes, he talked like he wanted my relationship to fail: "Don't come crying to me when she leaves you, look at what happened with your ex!"

Who knows? I could be wrong too, fast-forward 3 years, I could be walking in on the mother of my child having sex with some NW1 Chad.

I think you are doing the right thing by thinking of staying in a long term relationship with your current girl friend. Partying, clubbing and one night stands are a lot of fun till a certain age. But by late twenties to early thirties, it's a good idea to find a women you are compatible with. Thirties is a time to excel in a career. If you are still not settled down, you waste a lot of time and energy in chasing women instead of excelling in your career. Also, once you are out of college, you no longer have immediate access to a pool of quality women unless you work in industries like film/tv/modelling. So finding a long term stable partner becomes even more important.

Another factor to consider is that as time passes, the number of single, good looking females in your age group starts to go down as they start having kids or getting married.
 

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Your friend is making a mistake. We should never abandon our family and friends because of a women. Romantic relationships can't be 100% relied upon. A women might love you today but who knows who she will love tomorrow, especially in today's time. Gone are those days when marriage used to be for life. Romantic relationships are so susceptible to change because of their nature. If a mother has a baby, she doesn't stop loving her other other kids. However, when it comes to romantic relationships, women immediately forget their partners if they are attracted to a new man. In fact a lot of times they turn hostile and suddenly start finding flaws in their partner. One can argue that men also forget their current partner when they are interested in another women. However, the hostility women demonstrate towards a man they loses interest in is not usually seen in men, at least in my experience. I could be wrong though.



To be honest, some of your friends sound immature. They are offended because you decided to settle down or doing well with the ladies? The problem is with them, not you.
A wise man once said: b****s come and go, but you know I stay
 

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I don't think having a girl friend necessarily means losing touch with friends. I have friends with wife and kids and we all still regularly hang out. As you get older, the only friends that stay with you are the ones who have similar thought process as you. Notice, I said "thought process", not views. I have made two really good friends at work in the past few years. One of them is an African American and the other is Mexican. They understand my thought process very well and know my views on Islam, immigration, racism , etc. So even though they disagree with me on these issues, they know my views are grounded in reason and evidence and not in bigotry. I am basically a republican and they democrat but we all have respect and appreciation for each other. These are the kind of friends that will stay with you. Also, having similar interests is absolutely critical.

I also have about 7 really good college friends. They are a diverse group of people. Four of them are Caucasians, one is black, one is Indian and one Nepali. We also differ in our political views. But we all are tied by mutual respect and understanding.

If you want to make a friends in your late twenties, my recommendation will be to truly be yourself. Share your views over time when you are comfortable but be truthful. If they don't like your views, fine. They would never have made good friends anyway. You come across as a guy who is truthful so I think you will be fine. But you also come across as a guy who is shy and sensitive so opening up may not be that easy for you.
you sure about that?

All my friends that are in relationships, we don't see them much to begin with.

people start to segregate into different directions to the point where there are couples, and singles. it's no surprise that I rarely see my buddies in relationships unless its some form of a pot luck, dinner party or couples night. But do I blame them, no because relationships change your entire life. if you think for one second you can just get into a relationship, and have your boys night out every weekend then I just woke up from a dream. it aint happening in short.

Which is why I say that if you are not head over heels for that following chick, then there is absolutely no reason to be in a relationship. Unless of course you want to oppress yourself from your primal desires to be with someone you are barely into. Which of course some would justify for the novelty of being with someone, but I look at it as a form of defeat. Rather then being truly invested, one is just taking what they can get because there is nothing else as far as options. This is a bad route to take, but I dont blame baldies for heading this route, if anything I can sympathize.


Again, after seeing the amount of women I have been with.. almost none of clicked enough for me to want to date. When you enter a relationship you are accommodating them, and changing your entire life around you. Everything you once did freely starts to change, if of course you want a healthy relationship.

Relationships are a big commitment.

I think you are doing the right thing by thinking of staying in a long term relationship with your current girl friend. Partying, clubbing and one night stands are a lot of fun till a certain age. But by late twenties to early thirties, it's a good idea to find a women you are compatible with. Thirties is a time to excel in a career. If you are still not settled down, you waste a lot of time and energy in chasing women instead of excelling in your career. Also, once you are out of college, you no longer have immediate access to a pool of quality women unless you work in industries like film/tv/modelling. So finding a long term stable partner becomes even more important.

Another factor to consider is that as time passes, the number of single, good looking females in your age group starts to go down as they start having kids or getting married.

There is no shortage of beautiful young women. A man has more leeway in this regard if he maintains his shape, keeps his hair and is relatively good looking. Late twenties, early thirties he will have no problem finding a young women who wants to be with a real man. Meaning good career, dominant man who has in cards in deck and is looking to have a young fertile hottie by his side. Women at this age live for these guys, despite there party antics and hooking up with random young dudes. They all want that princess life style to come into action, and eventually have kids. it's biologically encoded in women to seek men of this caliber/.

Which is again why I am more focused on having fun now then getting locked down.
 

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you sure about that?

All my friends that are in relationships, we don't see them much to begin with.

people start to segregate into different directions to the point where there are couples, and singles. it's no surprise that I rarely see my buddies in relationships unless its some form of a pot luck, dinner party or couples night. But do I blame them, no because relationships change your entire life. if you think for one second you can just get into a relationship, and have your boys night out every weekend then I just woke up from a dream. it aint happening in short. .

It depends on the stage of relationship. When a relationship just starts, couples do tend to spend a significant amount of time with each other. But over time, things return to a normal level. Once you are in a serious relationship, boys night out probably wouldn't happen every weekend but it also doesn't mean that you will rarely see your friends. You have to remember, I am in mid thirties. We have couples night out with our friends, not boys night out.

There is no shortage of beautiful women, but it's not easy to find a women who you feel like settling down with. Once you meet a women who deserves that, it's wise to settle down if you are in your late twenties to early thirties. If you wait till your forties, you will still be able to pull women in their twenties but honestly, that's too big of an age difference if you want to settle down.

You are only 26 Shook, you still have about 4-5 years before you have to worry about settling down.
 
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It depends on the stage of relationship. When a relationship just starts, couples do tend to spend a significant amount of time with each other. But over time, things return to a normal level. Once you are in a serious relationship, boys night out probably wouldn't happen every weekend but if it doesn't also mean that you will rarely see your friends. You have to remember, I am in mid thirties. We have couples night out with our friends, not boys night out.

There is no shortage of beautiful women, but it's not easy to find a women who you feel like settling down with. Once you meet a women who deserves that, it's wise to settle down if you are in your late twenties to early thirties. If you wait till your forties, you will still be able to pull women in their twenties but honestly, that's too big of an age difference if you want to settle down.

You are only 26 Shook, you still have about 4-5 years before you worrying about settling down.
I want to settle down, and find a great women in my early-mid thirties.

twenties are a decade where I want to live carefree and have fun, not make mistakes of being with someone I dont even care about, just for the novelty of being in a relationship.

I need to be head over heels over somebody to want to be in a relationship. I wont accept anything less, because I have been with many women and I am yet to achieve that feeling. I am sure you know this feeling I discuss, where you truly want to be with that person. That rush, and gut feeling where you just cant see yourselves not being with that person, how you fantasize about being together. When you kiss, and have sex its like a rush of cocaine, and the how aftermatch of your sex, and cuddles feels just as addicting.


I have been with enough women this year to know that none of them had those feelings on me. Some have came close, but that could of be masked by intoxication.

YOU will know when YOU find the right person. Its a certain feeling, and no I am not talking about being a desprette baldie who settles down for whatever comes his way. I am talking about that right women that we qualify to be with, and feel so compatible.

I have been at that desperate stage when I lived in solitude, and its pathetic. It's not true love, rather a force by decision to stay with somebody for the convenience of being with someone. It's not real, the sex is boring but it's a means to a end. I will not put myself in this placment ever again. Because I am free of those shackles that once bonded me down, and I have options now.

Surely you can relate?
 

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I need to be head over heels over somebody to want to be in a relationship. I wont accept anything less, because I have been with many women and I am yet to achieve that feeling. I am sure you know this feeling I discuss, where you truly want to be with that person. That rush, and gut feeling where you just cant see yourselves not being with that person, how you fantasize about being together. When you kiss, and have sex its like a rush of cocaine, and the how aftermatch of your sex, and cuddles feels just as addicting.


I have been with enough women this year to know that none of them had those feelings on me. Some have came close, but that could of be masked by intoxication.

YOU will know when YOU find the right person. Its a certain feeling, and no I am not talking about being a desprette baldie who settles down for whatever comes his way. I am talking about that right women that we qualify to be with, and feel so compatible.

I have been at that desperate stage when I lived in solitude, and its pathetic. It's not true love, rather a force by decision to stay with somebody for the convenience of being with someone. It's not real, the sex is boring but it's a means to a end. I will not put myself in this placment ever again. Because I am free of those shackles that once bonded me down, and I have options now.

Surely you can relate?

I agree with you 100%. There is no point being with someone you don't truly desire. It's better to be alone and use time/resources in trying to find a women you truly want.
 

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I was extroverted, I was popular in school, I had high aspirations for my adult life. I worked out regularly and was in the best shape of my life. When my hair loss started at 17 though, it put an end to all of those things. It destroyed me in ways I didn't think were possible. I literally haven't made a new friend in 10+ years and am stuck in a dead end job, among countless other things that are symptomatic of the blow losing my hair so young has had.
Dude, I'm 18 and balding, my hair is thin and you can see my scalp if you look close enough, but I really don't dare to become depressed in this way. It would be an insult to myself. And that was clear to me when I thought about something that struck me "My male pattern baldness is genetical , so does this mean that I'm genetically "flawed"? No way. I have so many positive things that to call myself genetic error because of balding, that would be simply false. " Even simple things such as being born healthy show that I'm not genetically cursed. And this is why I can't understand you. You were a high-quality guy with many positive virtues and values and you thought that balding was enough to define you in this negative way.
 

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