Hair multiplication

fallicule

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This hair multiplication is really a sound science, right? Meaning, it can defenitly work, its just a matter of when. Or is this just getting hopes up to help us sleep better at night? Cuz knowing there is a cure for baldness 10 years down the road will definitly help me sleep better.
 

Bismarck

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What exactly is HM ?
From what I've heard it's just a normal hair transplant with virtually infinite donor reserves. That's what you can have today if you aren't a Norwood 5+, or am I mistaken ?
 

fallicule

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Oh, I thought it was hair multiplication -- where they clone a doner hair and transplant it to other parts affected by male pattern baldness. What is what i'm talking about called?
 

ropcat

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Bismarck said:
What exactly is HM ?
From what I've heard it's just a normal hair transplant with virtually infinite donor reserves. That's what you can have today if you aren't a Norwood 5+, or am I mistaken ?

Bismarck- I think one very tangible difference will be that young people could get them in the early stages of male pattern baldness, without having to worry about how bald they'll eventually get, or whether they'll deplete their donor reserves. Sure, I could have an aggressive transplant and get a perfect head of hair today, but no reputable doctor would do it on a 26 year old, not knowing whether I'm headed toward Norwood 7 or not. If the donor supply is expanded, presumably even an eighteen year old could have his temples done. Or we could all get our hairlines lowered down to our eyebrows if we wanted.
 

Trent

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bingo. the beauty of HM is the infiniteness of it. Darkly Charming has been doing a ton of research on this, and we've been discussing it a decent amount. from what i understand they know how to do it, they are currently just working on how to perfect the hairline. i believe they are in phase II of clinical trials. its coming people. no doubt. I wish someone would say to me, yes it will be out in eight years. if that was true i would get a hair transplant TODAY, fill in the thinner spots, then by the time the donor hair was getting used up, HM would be out, and bingo: a full head of hair from now until i die.
 

Zen2Bald

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Actually HM isn't unlimited donor follicles... in fact it doesn't really work like that if I understand it correctly...

Cells are collected and cultured and then injected under the scalp. THEN hair grows where it was injected.

if I am understanding it correctly. That is MUCH better than unlimited donor follicles.
 

DarklyCharming

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No you are misunderstanding, Zen. The cells that are cultured ARE hair follicules. They are multiplied from your own. They are then injected, one by one, in areas missing hair, and grow hair there because they are, in fact, hair follicules.
 

Full Head of Hair

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So this is really a possibility in the near future? Btw, what is the near future? 2yrs, 9 yrs?
 

fallicule

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The consensus seems to be around 5 years, i'd guess probably a little longer. We hope sooner, obviously.
 

Trent

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my guess, is some form of it will surface within 3 years, it won't be perfected for another six or so. that's totally just my opinion based on what i have read.
 

ropcat

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Trent said:
from what i understand they know how to do it, they are currently just working on how to perfect the hairline.

One researcher indicated in an interview that the hairline would initially be hard to do precisely with HM, but that people could just have a traditional transplant on the hairline and then HM over the rest of the scalp. However, controlling the direction of hair growth (will the cell grow up and out? or down into the head?) is one of the big challenges now.
 

Fallout Boy

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Ropcat are you sure the direction problem is up and out or down into the head? im pretty sure its to get it to grow in the natural direction. I read somewhere that it looked unnatural the way it was growing... or it would look unnatural if you grew a full head of hair with the direction problem not resolved.
 

ropcat

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fallout boy said:
Ropcat are you sure the direction problem is up and out or down into the head? im pretty sure its to get it to grow in the natural direction. I read somewhere that it looked unnatural the way it was growing... or it would look unnatural if you grew a full head of hair with the direction problem not resolved.

Thanks, FalloutBoy. Guess I screwed up. That's good news. That means they're closer than I thought. :)
 

Fallout Boy

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Im pretty sure thats the case with the direction problem anyways...

i'll hunt for the study or the interview where i read this from one day but right now im way too tired and waaay too lazy :p
 

malsi

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is this permenant though for male pattern baldness guys or will we still have to use dht inhibitors
 

DarklyCharming

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It's permanent. They take the cells from areas of your head unaffected by DHT.
 

malsi

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DarklyCharming said:
It's permanent. They take the cells from areas of your head unaffected by DHT.

why are those area's permenant, any there any info on why these area's are permenant

thanks
 

DarklyCharming

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I answered your question already. Read the entire two sentences of the response.
 

Full Head of Hair

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I swear the most difficult process of this is waiting for this to come to fruition. I'm seriously pumped for this. I want my freakin temples fixed.
 

wangho75

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wonder how much this procedure is gonna run people? It seems like it would be a bit cheaper than a regular hair transplant since fewer hairs or 'cells' are implanted. It's gonna be damn nice to know that im not gonna end up having my father's hair. Though im holding on better at the same age as he was with his hair.
 
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