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Topical spironolactone 2x daily and Revivogen 2x daily. Used Propecia very successfully for 3 yrs.

I have been working to maintain a full head of hair for about 4 yrs. Never really let it get very far before I jumped on the treatments. Just have some thinning at my temples and front.

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Redbone

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Why not use Xandrox 12.5% on your temples instead of Revivogen. Use something that really works instead of Mickey Mouse stuff. No offense but many people here agree that using Revivogen instead of minoxidil is like using Saw Palmetto instead of Fina?

I am not criticizing your routine it seems to work for you but aren't their better proven treatments?
 

Cassin

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HairlossTalk said:
Topical spironolactone 2x daily and Revivogen 2x daily. Used Propecia very successfully for 3 yrs.

I have been working to maintain a full head of hair for about 4 yrs. Never really let it get very far before I jumped on the treatments. Just have some thinning at my temples and front.

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Do you use the revivogen shampoo?

Redbone, it's not Mickey Mouse stuff if it is working.
 

VoRteX

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HairLossTalk.com, any more nut-issues with the spironolactone?

I know you posted before you were "gooping" quite a bit on your scalp and got an inflamed testicle. Is that resolved now?
 

HairlossTalk

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redbone said:
Why not use Xandrox 12.5% on your temples instead of Revivogen.
Well first off, Xandrox and Revivogen are two completely different treatments. Xandrox is 12.5% minoxidil which is a growth stimulant on steroids (standard minoxidil is 5%). Revivogen is in the class of DHT inhibitors and the purpose of each is completely different.

Secondly, in the 4 years I've run this site I've heard literally 50/50 reports on Xandrox either working wonders or completely destroying someone's hairline. Its really strong, and its a total crapshoot as to whether you will be a responder, or a destructee.

Thirdly, if I was going to use Minoxidil, I would use the 5% version that has been fully tested, has statistics I can rely on, and has an established safety profile. Im just responsible like that I guess.

Fourthly, my goal isn't growth stimulation. I responded phenomenally to Propecia alone for 3 years. My goal is to try and emulate that environment by using a topical DHT inhibitor instead of an oral one, and the Topical spironolactone 5% only enhances that effect. The two together, in my opinion, are a magnificent replacement for Propecia if and only if you cannot tolerate Propecia.

Fifthly, I don't consider Revivogen a mickey mouse treatment by any means. It's got some seriously potent DHT inhibitors in it that have been clinically tested and shown to be incredibly effective at accomplishing this goal. Among the unproven DHT inhibiting products out there, Revivogen is so packed full of them that I would say its the cadillac of unproven topical DHT inhibitors, and used in conjunction with spironolactone, a relatively great speculative DHT inhibiting combo.

Sixthly, since I had such great success with Propecia alone, Im pacing myself, and holding off on the growth stimulants for as long as I can. This is a long term project, and I have no desire to use up all my options up front. If Propecia alone worked, maybe Revivogen/spironolactone alone will work too, as they technically do the same things.

Please check out this article by Bryan Shelton and see what you think of it, most notably the last couple paragraphs:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/productrevi ... icle02.htm

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VoRteX said:
HairLossTalk.com, any more nut-issues with the spironolactone? I know you posted before you were "gooping" quite a bit on your scalp and got an inflamed testicle. Is that resolved now?
Thank you for your interest in my balls :laugh:

The whole epididymitis .. er ... episode ... remains a mystery. I went off of spironolactone and Revivogen from June to September because of it, and paid dearly. I had some pretty seriously thick hairline maintaining going and last month I had a nasty shed and lost some noticeable density. So I went back on it. Im applying it very sparingly, using the logic that Dr. Lee keeps trying to hammer into my head that I don't need to use so damn much :) A thin film is all that's necessary. I've been re-using it now for 3 weeks or so and so far no problems of any kind.

Epididymitis, after its first episode, can be chronic, and at that point its nearly impossible to tell the original cause. The inflammation caused by the initial episode can cause permenant increased sensitivity to future flareups, so its hard to know if its a leftover from the original, or a new episode caused by something you're doing.

I know for a fact I never had any problems like these prior to Propecia, and had several bouts of acute epididymitis while on Propecia which were quite painful but usually only lasted a day or three, so I ignored them like an idiot and kept on with it.

Bottom line, nobody knows.

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