These guys, as childish and incredibly immature as they are acting, just want to be free to express their opinions.
The problem comes in when their opinions contain information or claims that are scientifically wrong. They don't want to be corrected.
We're not here to influence opinions, but we are here to keep things factually based when the facts are in error. Certain topics, like "Can someone claim that something works even though the scientific data says it does not work? And... with all the subjectivity of opinion, should people be allowed to rile themselves and others up on their subjective results, without having photos to prove it?" may never be resolvable.
But there are other foundational problems that won't change. One of the two guys wrote a 4 page post simply on how much it bugs him that we get involved in the threads.
Im not too sure there's a solution.
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