Help with RU58841 Powder Lab Test Results

[Viper]

Hi All,

Looking for assistance from anyone on this forum with experience to translate in-house and supposed external lab test on an RU58841 powder.

I've been dealing with a manufacturer from China who has been in business 5+ years selling all sorts of powders.

They have given me their own internal COA test analysis using HLPC as well as a supposed external chem lab test results using NMR.

Here is a screenshot example of their own COA

In regards to them testing their RU58841 with a third party, they have provided me with the following documents over chat and email:

The additional image they have provided me below is mostly in Chinese

Further more they said that one is the NMR image, the other is the liquid phase image and explained the NMR testing is used to determine the structure of the product, that is, to determine whether it is RU58841.
The Liquid phase testing is used to check the purity of the product.

Can anyone help double check and verify that based on the above results they've provided me would confirm it's really RU58841?

I've already purchased a sample off them and confirm it dissolves in KB and Ethanol and PG and it definitely doesn't dissolve in water. But what I noticed is that I am getting side effects that are lasting over a day. But when I have used MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain's RU, I don't get any sides.

When I explained this to the Chinese manufacturer they believe that it could be their purity is much higher than what I have used from MinoxidilMax and Main Regain which doesn't makes sense.

Any decent help with the above would be highly appreciated.

 

[losingbattle88]

Hi All,

Looking for assisting from anyone on this forum with experience to translate in-house and supposed external lab test on an RU58841 powder.

I've been dealing with a manufacturer from China who has been in business 5+ years selling all sorts of powders.

They have given me their own internal COA test analysis using HLPC as well as a supposed external chem lab test results using NMR.

Here is a screenshot example of their own COA
View attachment 189517
In regards to them testing their RU58841 with a third party, they have provided me with the following documents over chat and email:

View attachment 189518
View attachment 189519
The additional image they have provided me below is mostly in Chinese
View attachment 189520

Further more they said that one is the NMR image, the other is the liquid phase image and explained the NMR testing is used to determine the structure of the product, that is, to determine whether it is RU58841.
The Liquid phase testing is used to check the purity of the product.

Can anyone help double check and verify that based on the above results they've provided me would confirm it's really RU58841?

I've already purchased a sample off them and confirm it dissolves in KB and Ethanol and PG and it definitely doesn't dissolve in water. But what I noticed is that I am getting side effects that are lasting over a day. But when I have used MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain's RU, I don't get any sides.

When I explained this to the Chinese manufacturer they believe that it could be their purity is much higher than what I have used from MinoxidilMax and Main Regain which doesn't makes sense.

Any decent help with the above would be highly appreciated.

Higher purity more potent RU=more sides. Yes it does make sense.

 

[Viper]

Isn't the purity from MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain just as high? I've even used the RU powder from Anageninc and didn't experience sides like this.

Were you able to understand the lab test results above?

 

[callpizza]

What is the name of this company? I want to buy it too.

 

[losingbattle88]

Isn't the purity from MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain just as high? I've even used the RU powder from Anageninc and didn't experience sides like this.

Were you able to understand the lab test results above?

Sounds fishy. I get my powder from acticfolic no sides. Havent used ru in a long time but gonna start it again.

 

[Viper]

Sounds fishy. I get my powder from acticfolic no sides. Havent used ru in a long time but gonna start it again.

Do you mean the lab test results sound fishy or MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain? I might need to try acticfolic to see if I experience the same sides or not

 

[losingbattle88]

Do you mean the lab test results sound fishy or MinoxidilMax and Mane Regain? I might need to try acticfolic to see if I experience the same sides or not

I mean regarding sides. Acticfolic is in EU. Chemyo is US.

 

[Jakejr]

I’ve tried RU.. didn’t do a thing

 

[abovedagame]

Remember….covid came from China too, so RU must be good

 

[glenn_livet]

Any update here? I bought some RU powder from AliExress before but it was fake. If there is a cheap and reliable supplier I would definitely get some.

 

[Viper]

Any update here? I bought some RU powder from AliExress before but it was fake. If there is a cheap and reliable supplier I would definitely get some.

I bought one from AE as well and it was fake. It dissolved in water. Seller didn't respond to anyone's messages. AE did nothing to protect the buyer and went in the seller's favour. AE is a horrible platform to buy anything like this.
As for the RU powder I bought from a manufacturer, I have yet to further test it. I've reached out to a few Chem Labs and contemplating whether I should send a sample away to get it tested it or not. But it all comes down to costs and time.

 

[losingbattle88]

I bought one from AE as well and it was fake. It dissolved in water. Seller didn't respond to anyone's messages. AE did nothing to protect the buyer and went in the seller's favour. AE is a horrible platform to buy anything like this.
As for the RU powder I bought from a manufacturer, I have yet to further test it. I've reached out to a few Chem Labs and contemplating whether I should send a sample away to get it tested it or not. But it all comes down to costs and time.

I love u

 

[abovedagame]

I bought one from AE as well and it was fake. It dissolved in water. Seller didn't respond to anyone's messages. AE did nothing to protect the buyer and went in the seller's favour. AE is a horrible platform to buy anything like this.
As for the RU powder I bought from a manufacturer, I have yet to further test it. I've reached out to a few Chem Labs and contemplating whether I should send a sample away to get it tested it or not. But it all comes down to costs and time.

Why the f*** would anyone buy some random chemical on Ali express? Chinese people eat dog. Do you think they care about you? Also, people need to realize that even though RU is topical a portion of the drug still goes systemic.

 

[Viper]

Why the f*** would anyone buy some random chemical on Ali express? Chinese people eat dog. Do you think they care about you? Also, people need to realize that even though RU is topical a portion of the drug still goes systemic.

A lot of these chems are sourced from China as many other things are. I bought a small sample for pretty cheap off AE just to test it and failed. No harm in doing that. As for the Chinese manufacturer I was referred to, they are not from AE. They have been in business for quite a long time and recommended by a friend. But my initial questions and concerns on purity were to validate their test results. It looks like I will have to proceed with that with a recommended third party lab.

 

[abovedagame]

A lot of these chems are sourced from China as many other things are. I bought a small sample for pretty cheap off AE just to test it and failed. No harm in doing that. As for the Chinese manufacturer I was referred to, they are not from AE. They have been in business for quite a long time and recommended by a friend. But my initial questions and concerns on purity were to validate their test results. It looks like I will have to proceed with that with a recommended third party lab.

Just so you know there are a lot of anecdotal reports of chest tightness and lung issues with RU usage. And, an FYI, there are androgen receptors in your heart.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

My analysis of RU - if it was an approved drug it would be great to add to a stack. However, considering the price, stability, and the untrustworthiness of these Chinese labs, it's not really worth it. I have also never seen anyone with visually improved results on RU alone - it's always been in combination with other treatments.

The strategy should be something like finasteride + min, if you need to upgrade it then add low dose oral min, if that doesn't work then you can try dutasteride and look into transplants. RU and other topical AAs aren't really worth it IMO, again, due to sourcing, cost, and just the results aren't even really there.

 

[losingbattle88]

My analysis of RU - if it was an approved drug it would be great to add to a stack. However, considering the price, stability, and the untrustworthiness of these Chinese labs, it's not really worth it. I have also never seen anyone with visually improved results on RU alone - it's always been in combination with other treatments.

The strategy should be something like finasteride + min, if you need to upgrade it then add low dose oral min, if that doesn't work then you can try dutasteride and look into transplants. RU and other topical AAs aren't really worth it IMO, again, due to sourcing, cost, and just the results aren't even really there.

Best route is HRT and get nice big tits.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Best route is HRT and get nice big tits.

And as$

 

[Thinning Sucks]

I’ve tried RU.. didn’t do a thing

Pretty much the same for me - tried it for about a year added to minoxidil.

 

[abovedagame]

Pretty much the same for me - tried it for about a year added to minoxidil.

What Norwood are you?