Herbal Propecia
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schestev said:
Propecia without the potential for side effects = ineffective
Unless it's a topical. In which case it's not ineffective but less effective.
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This, once again, over and over we run into people who quote this study... this study was the study publicly labeled as "BUNK" on 20/20 in January 2003 as being a totally improperly run study funded by Geno Marovici, owner of a saw palmetto hair loss treatment product. This study is mentioned in our article on Saw Palmetto <--- click those words. Its not a legit study. It only included 10 people for a period of something like 4 months. Insufficient test group, Insufficient test period, run by a biased party who could have misconstrued any or all of the data, and it was not even published in a recognized dermatological journal. Sorry.ColtsFan said:
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ColtsFan said:
Lets try it this way, genius! IF you think SP is effective against male pattern baldness orally, why are you advocating it when we already have an oral drug that has been PROVEN to combat male pattern baldness?
Using classic decision theory, you must discount the benefits of SP greatly because it is RUMORED to combat MBP while finasteride is PROVEN to combat male pattern baldness.
Anyone, anyone??
well first of all I dont take SP now, I am considering adding it only because my proscar inhibits only about 60% of the free floating dht in my system. If there is a safe, side effect free way to inhibit the balance of dht from attatching to my receptor sites, I think its worth a shot.
Its cheap, I'll take pictures, and if I sense side effects or notice no change in 6 months, I'll drop it? Whats the big Fing deal?
I mean people are taking Advodart and its supposed to have side effects that may effect brain function, so why is supplementing my program with a little SP and documenting my progress a big deal.
Its cheap, I'll take pictures, and if I sense side effects or notice no change in 6 months, I'll drop it? Whats the big Fing deal?
I mean people are taking Advodart and its supposed to have side effects that may effect brain function, so why is supplementing my program with a little SP and documenting my progress a big deal.
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ColtsFan said:
Why do you assume that SP is safe and side effect free? That is illogical. IF and I say IF, it reduces DHT JUST LIKE FINASTERIDE DOES, why would it not generate side effects just like finasteride?
In fact, one of the advantages to taking finasteride it is that it has been tested for safety and side effects. Not so, SP.
Moreoever, Finasteride is standardized and controlled in production, not so SP.
BTW-Many of us have used SP and experienced fiansteride like side effects.
There is no free lunch, no?
And you can certainly use SP if you want. The issue will be, how are you sure you are getting real SP and if the dosage is the right one?
number one read the whole post, I said IF I DONT NOTICE ANY SIDE EFFECTS. Illogical? I dont think so, reponsible yes, If I notice side effects I stop, HELLO???
number two get your facts straight. SP doesnt REDUCE dht, it blocks it from attacking the receptor sites in your follicle....
gotta go back to work
I want a cure for this hairloss thing by 5:00 today or your all fired!!!!
number two get your facts straight. SP doesnt REDUCE dht, it blocks it from attacking the receptor sites in your follicle....
gotta go back to work
I want a cure for this hairloss thing by 5:00 today or your all fired!!!!
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His facts are straight. Once again yours are not. Saw Palmetto is an inhibitor of DHT as well as a receptor blocker.ColtsFan said:
You're a very outspoken individual, but its difficult to watch you harshly insult people here while saying things that are factually incorrect all the time. :wink:
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There is. Its called Topical Spironolactone Solution 5% from Dr. Lee. There is a mountain of evidence that this stuff works *for hair loss* when applied topically. The data supporting Orally Ingested Saw Palmetto miserably fails, even in comparison to the data supporting Topical spironolactone. If you're looking for an antiandrogen with receptor blocking traits, thats the way to go. That is why I am using Revivogen and ... you guessed it ... Topical spironolactone Lotion 5%.ColtsFan said:
We're just trying to help you here. Stop yelling at me.
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