High/ Low Testosterone Condradiction

baldymonk

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As the title suggest you would have thought simple facts from scientist would stop CONFUSION regarding this matter.

You read on google where hair loss can be a symptom of low testosterone.

Then you read websites saying high levels of testosterone can lead to hair loss.

Then you read someone talk about not ejaculating can promote hairgrowth.

Then you read abstaining from masturbation can increase testosterone by 150% on the 7th day.

Then you start thinking it's better to masturbate to keep testosterone levels stable.

Then you end up back at stage 1.

Don't tell it don't matter and hair loss is genetic. I ALREADY KNOW THAT. I want to learn about the above...yes. :)



This is F-ing confusing. Every thing is contradicting it self.
 

psyhotria

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Then you read abstaining from masturbation can increase testosterone by 150% on the 7th day.
Yes, but thereafter it (normally) falls off. Though it can stay elevated; this is what I refer as (an) 'odd cycle'. Also the hair organ (or skin) has its own androgen production machinery i.e. 5a-reductase etc., and systemic androgen levels are secondary.
 

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Its hard for me to personally believe low T causes hair loss. I dont know who made that one up but it seems very odd to me. With how much is unknown about male pattern baldness though I would never say anything is impossible. You could have very low T/DHT and still be extremely sensitive to androgens since sensitivity is still so poorly understood.
All the stuff you posted about masturbation is false. The only thing there is higher T probably causes more male pattern baldness. You dont want T if you want hair so the rest of it is probably wrong.
 

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All the stuff you posted about masturbation is false. The only thing there is higher T probably causes more male pattern baldness. You dont want T if you want hair so the rest of it is probably wrong.

so you agree higher T causes hair loss?
 

never2late

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The amount of testosterone isn't the problem though right? The problem is the hair follicles, which have been preprogrammed through genetics, that are sensitive to DHT.
 

baldymonk

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Why dont you stop masturbating and see if your hair grows back then.

The above made me chuckle.

Okay good idea.

No jerking for two-three weeks. On 7th day testosterone spike, there after drops.
After the second week feel incredibly horny day after day. Oh must the be high T -levels.
Must wack it off.

"No dont... because then your test/theory test is obsolete."

"but I have to.. T - levels are to high dude... they say high T can cause hair loss as there is more chance of T being coverted to DHT"

"Okay you better bust one off"



The only thing there is higher T probably causes more male pattern baldness. You dont want T if you want hair so the rest of it is probably wrong.


So what if you jerk off so much. Would T levels be down.? (This has got to be a simple yes/ or no answer.. right?)



[FONT=Museo Sans 300, Arial, sans-serif]"The Zhejiang University researchers discovered that abstaining from ejaculation for 6 days after orgasm has little effect on testosterone levels, but testosterone levels reached approximately 146 percent on the seventh day."[/FONT]

[FONT=Museo Sans 300, Arial, sans-serif]Right well in that case. Jerk off after every 5 days. Keep T-levels in balance. [/FONT]

[FONT=Museo Sans 300, Arial, sans-serif]Because in the report it says that Testorone levels go back down after the 7th day but... think about it.[/FONT]
[FONT=Museo Sans 300, Arial, sans-serif]It is so hard not to jerk off after two weeks and even if you last longer the body will try to do it on it's own through the sleep. How can that be if the testosterone levels were back down low.[/FONT]
 

zzzzz

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As the title suggest you would have thought simple facts from scientist would stop CONFUSION regarding this matter.

You read on google where hair loss can be a symptom of low testosterone.

Then you read websites saying high levels of testosterone can lead to hair loss.

Then you read someone talk about not ejaculating can promote hairgrowth.

Then you read abstaining from masturbation can increase testosterone by 150% on the 7th day.

Then you start thinking it's better to masturbate to keep testosterone levels stable.

Then you end up back at stage 1.

Don't tell it don't matter and hair loss is genetic. I ALREADY KNOW THAT. I want to learn about the above...yes. :)



This is F-ing confusing. Every thing is contradicting it self.

1. the idea that masturbation can effect anything is a stupid myth.

2. Low test or other hormone problems can cause hairloss (but not male pattern baldness at all)

3. High DHT causes male pattern baldness. High test usually correlates with high DHT
 

baldymonk

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1. the idea that masturbation can effect anything is a stupid myth.

2. Low test or other hormone problems can cause hairloss (but not male pattern baldness at all)

3. High DHT causes male pattern baldness. High test usually correlates with high DHT


Right this is where I find it confusing and contradicting.

Your answers 2 & 3.


2.Low test can cause hair loss (but not male pattern baldness at all.)
3.High test usually correlates with high DHT.

There are ways to higher OR lower testosterone.
What are we aiming for? Low?
 

zzzzz

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Right this is where I find it confusing and contradicting.

Your answers 2 & 3.


2.Low test can cause hair loss (but not male pattern baldness at all.)
3.High test usually correlates with high DHT.

There are ways to higher OR lower testosterone.
What are we aiming for? Low?

testosterone doesn't matter, DHT matters. male pattern baldness and hormonal hair loss are two unrelated things. hormonal hair loss is extremely rare. The goal is low DHT
 
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