Hormones - blood test results

[1750]

I stopped dutasteride October last year after some serious issues with the sides (had issues with finasteride prior to that as well)
Recently I've had concerns about pseudo gyno returning as I've noticed puffy nipples again.... thought that potentially spironolactone may be the cause as the rest of my regime consists of
Revivogen, minoxidil, prox-n & proxiphen, spironolactone.
My blood results were:
Glucose, iron, lipids and thyroid levels fine
Oest pmol/L = 177 (normal range below 150)
Testosterone = 32* nmol/L - (normal range 8.3 - 29)
Sex hormone binding globulin = 38 nmol/L - (normal range 11-71)

So apparently I'm normally androgenised but have high eostrogen levels.... hence my gyno nipples.
My sex drive is still down as is my ejaculate volume from before finasteride and dutasteride (no more hitting the back of the wall and the quantity is far less still).
Despite my expensive and obsessive topical regime I'm having no success even keeping my hair at the moment.
So - My Doctor just wants me to do nothing but wait for ANOTHER 3 months and get my bloods done again later.... I've already waited 10 months and I'm still not normal!!!

For the last two weeks I've been using DIM, grape seed extract, cucrcumin and flax lignans as well as yohimbe cream prior to exercise to try and keep my moobs from growing.
The natural supplements don't seem to help at all...

Sooooooo...... any thoughts or suggestions???? all I really need is to drop my estrogen a bit to be back in the normal range....
I'm hoping once this happens all sexual functions etc will return to normal...

 

[Harie]

I don't think that naturals really work that well for lowering estrogen.

You could give AIFM a shot. It's a transdermal that's applied directly to the chest and it lowers estrogen...But since you're already using the yohimburn topical, it may be better to take an oral.

Aromasin, Arimidex, Letrozole (super powerful). Letro can smash your estrogen down to nearly nothing unless you're careful.

All encompasing regemin is:
Arimidex or Aromasin
Selegiline or Cabaser
Yohimburn & cardio

 

[Timi]

was Your Hair good under dutasteride?

Timi

 

[hairsucks]

Do 200 press ups a day and don't eat any saturated fats for 1 month. That will eat your moobs.

Watch Baywatch once a day to sort your sex drive out.

I'm a bit drunk at the moment so that means I only speak truth, apparently.

 

[1750]

Thanks Harie -

I have ordered the AIFM as well as sesapure to help me drop some extra fat.
I'm hoping that this along with a considerable amount of cardio exercise will help to drop these estrogen levels.

Hairsucks.... I go to the gym 3 times a week and do high reps already (flat, incline, decline bench, dips and push ups).... this hasn't helped me in any way for moobs.... at the moment the fact I have quite good sized pecs is all that is hiding the moob growth.

Timi to answer your question - dutasteride - when I was on it I shed like all buggery (had been off finasteride for a brief period and then moved to dutasteride)... I never got to continue using it to see any good effects as the sides I got were crazy bad (only used it for two weeks).

I was on finasteride 1 mg a day for about 4 months.
Had an initial shed and then all my hair stopped falling out (including when I was washing it). This was a first for me in over 8 years!
Then the sides came and I stopped using it.

If and only if I can get my hormes back to normal and my sex drive functioning like it used to I might consider going on a much lower dose of finasteride again as the sh!t quite obviously works for me (.25mg a day instead of 1mg). Again that's only IF I get everything working properly again

 

[1750]

Harie.... you are a f@#$cking LEGEND!!!!!!!

Gents.... I'm pretty happy at the moment as the AIFM transdermal kicks arse!!
In only 3 applications it has helped to reduce my moobs!
First application directly onto my nips... 1 squirt a nip
Second application to my left inner forearm - 2 squirts
Third application to my right inner forearm - 2 squirts.
My brain fog has since immediately gone and my energy levels are up (was feeling so good I added 15 lbs to the bench press this morning and easily smashed it without needing a spotter).
The puffyness of my nipples has almost halved.... even my wifey commented by saying how much more toned my chest looked today!

The AIFM obviously helps drop estro and boost testosterone....

Hopefully the drop in estrogen will help bring back my sex drive and ejaculate volume.....

will keep you updated....