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Redbone

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I have been reading about products that say if you use them you will regrow maintain hair. I speak specificaly about Dr. Lewenbergs sh*t. He states that if you use his product you will have healthy hair for life. Well I did and that was before I new the action of minoxidil.

I think it is important to set a misconception straight, minoxidil will not stop hair from falling out. It is simply a re-growth agent and does nothing to stop DHT production, I dont care if it has Retinoic acid or not. You simply must have a DHT blocker to stop further hairloss. I believed in this prodcut for 10 months and in that time I re-grew hair but some areas such as my temples thinned out even more. I believed the hype and thought this was an all in one product that would counter effect hairloss.

All you newbies and first time thinners take warning minoxidil is a re-growth agent and will not stop further hairloss. It is in my opinion a great product that works well but it needs to be combined with Finasteride or a topical like Fluradil or some other that hasnt been invented yet. If I known this a year ago I would be far better off now. I tell this because I was mislead into thinking that minoxidil is a product that would regrow and prevent future hairloss and it is not. Even when you mix it with acne medication it still is not what it is said to be- Go the straight line and get a solid DHT inhibitor along with your minoxidil. The one two punch.
 
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redbone

you didn't mention your 'best friend'? are you not well?

Ty
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my regime

Proscar 1.25mg
minoxidil 5% morning and evening
Nizoral shampoo every 3 days

L-Lysine 3g taken on empty stomach (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
L-Carnitine 1g taken on empty stomach (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
Alpha Lipoic Acid 100 mg daily
Ginkgo 6000mg daily (120mg extract)
Biotin 2.5mg daily (spread through the day)
MSM lignisul 6000mg daily (spread through the day)
Vitamin C 3000mg (esther C) (spread through the day)
Vitamin E 1000 iu daily
Snickers Bar (chocolate coated nut based treat) daily
Multivitamin Solgar Formula VM75
Multiminiral Solgar Pure Amino Acid Chelated
Green Tea 3-5 cups daily
Cod Liver Oil 1000mg daily
Resveratrol 250 mg daily

L-Arginine (taken with antioxidant) 3g taken on empty stomach before bed (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
L-Ornithine 3g taken on empty stomach before bed (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
Meltatonin 3 mg before bed (cycled 3 days on 3 days off)

one hundred brown onions
 
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??

I was talking about your 'hung chad' you know your 'Sir Richard thomas'

anyhow....

......."There is no evidence to suggest cycling aminos is necessary."......


There are two reasons that you should cycle, that is, use GH releasers Like L-Arginine/Orthinine for a period of time and then go off them for a period of time. first, all hormones in the body work via a delicate, complex feedback mechinisms, with one hormone signaling another to turn on or off in response to the amount of hormone circulating in the body. By continually supplying the hormone from outside you can interrupt the natural feedback mechanism, there is an art and science to cycling, except for basic vitamin, mineral and anitoxidant supplements, cycling any substance is recomended. Your body will adjust to most things and the response you are looking for will be attenuated. GH releasers cause increased activity in the receptors that bind to them, if this were not so my bald friends there would be little point in taking them, stopping the releasers for a period rests the receptor sites. If you are using anything that is effecting the endocrine system it is recommended to take them every day for four to six weeks and then cycling off for two weeks, this won't screw up your bodys system of recognising these compounds.

redbone you are kinda right that there is little or no evidence as this area of hormonal signalling has not been researched in great depth. But the smart money is on cycling as there is a chance that increasing external influence on GH release may shut off your bodies own feedback mechanism.

more of a safe than sorry approach

Ty
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my regime

Proscar 1.25mg
minoxidil 5% morning and evening
Nizoral shampoo every 3 days

L-Lysine 3g taken on empty stomach (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
L-Carnitine 1g taken on empty stomach (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
Alpha Lipoic Acid 100 mg daily
Ginkgo 6000mg daily (120mg extract)
Biotin 2.5mg daily (spread through the day)
MSM lignisul 6000mg daily (spread through the day)
Vitamin C 3000mg (esther C) (spread through the day)
Vitamin E 1000 iu daily
Snickers Bar (chocolate coated nut based treat) daily
Multivitamin Solgar Formula VM75
Multiminiral Solgar Pure Amino Acid Chelated
Green Tea 3-5 cups daily
Cod Liver Oil 1000mg daily
Resveratrol 250 mg daily

L-Arginine (taken with antioxidant) 3g taken on empty stomach before bed (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
L-Ornithine 3g taken on empty stomach before bed (cycled 6 weeks on 2 off)
Meltatonin 3 mg before bed (cycled 3 days on 3 days off)

one hundred brown onions
sex with the neighbours
half an hour of dog baiting (cycled 3 days on 3 days off)
 
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Is horse ka ka better for regrowth or maintence? Stallion or pony, mare or foal, shetland pony or clydesdale?
 

dave01_us

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Redbone i know what you mean man....i think some of us when we first notice hairloss or first decide to do something about it waste precious time on unproven sh*t.I for one didnt know a damn thing about "the big 3" because i hadnt done the research.
 

Redbone

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For 10 months I thought I was doing something to help my hair and felt confident at $160/mo. Unfortunately this really hurt my hairline especialy in the frontal region. If I had known then what I know now I would have gotten the big three fast.

It sucks and all the money I flushed sucks to.
 
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For 10 months I thought I was doing something to help my hair and felt confident at $160/mo. Unfortunately this really hurt my hairline especialy in the frontal region. If I had known then what I know now I would have gotten the big three fast.

It happens to so many guys, we all go through our snake oil period before we find out or hear about what stuff actualy works. I wasted about 2 years on some stuff called multiflora 713 and Biodeem shampoo, complete garbage. Death to snake oilers. :smoke:
 

Redbone

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Boy it does suck donkey ***- Zimm what do you say me and you come up with a new product? I will mix it up in my basement.
 
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