How Much More 5 Alpha Reductase Type 2 Is Inhibited By Dutasteride Than Finasteride?

shwareb

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Hey guys! I was wondering if you guys know how much of the enzyme 5 alpha reductase type 2 is inhibited by Dutasteride (0,5mg ED) compared to Finasteride (1mg ED)? Also how much of the enzyme 5 alpha reductase type 1 is inhibited by Dutasteride (0,5 mg ED)?

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It depends upon dosage. Neither is necessarily better than the other in the abstract as dutasteride might wipe out more of the first type of reductase than is necessary for many people. How much depends on dosage but in general, duta wipes out all of type one, over 90 percent and 70 percent of type II if I recall correctly. finasteride reduces only type I by about 70 percent at standard dosaging. Since these are titrated often, it's difficult to be more precise but generally titrating upwards from 1 mg of finasteride to 5 mg before trying duta is less likely to cause sheds possibly. There's actually three types of reductases although the third seems to be less discussed and perhaps less implicated in hair loss. The nomenclature appears to be inconsistent related to which type of reductase is referred to as Type I.

Except for eradication possibly of certain neurotransmitters, Duta is better for hair growth and improvement but might cause more shedding.


Dutasteride belongs to a class of drugs called 5α-reductase inhibitors, which block the action of the 5α-reductase enzymes that convert testosterone into DHT.[42] It inhibits all three forms of 5α-reductase, and can decrease DHT levels in the blood by up to 98%.[1][43][44] Specifically it is a competitive, mechanism-based (irreversible) inhibitor of all three isoforms of 5α-reductase, types I, II, and III (IC50 values are 3.9 nM for type I and 1.8 nM for type II).[1][43][45][46] This is in contrast to finasteride, which is similarly an irreversible inhibitor of 5α-reductase[46][47] but only inhibits the type II and III isoenzymes.[43] As a result of this difference, dutasteride is able to achieve a reduction in circulating DHT levels of up to 98%, whereas finasteride is able to achieve a reduction of only 65 to 70%.[44][2][42][48] In spite of the differential reduction in circulating DHT levels, the two drugs decrease levels of DHT to a similar extent of approximately 85 to 90% in the prostate gland,[48] where the type II isoform of 5α-reductase predominates.[45]

The 2 5α-reductase inhibitors (5ARIs), dutasteride and finasteride, suppress dihydrotestosterone (DHT) by inhibiting the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Finasteride inhibits only the Type 2 5AR isoenzyme, whereas dutasteride, the only dual 5ARI, selectively inhibits both Type 1 and Type 2 5AR isoenzymes.

Comparison of Clinical Trials With Finasteride ... - NCBI - NIH

 
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Dutasteride at 0.5mg a day removes 98-99% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and around half of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Finasteride at 1mg a day removes 85-90% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and no more than 1% of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Both drugs potently inhibit 5ar type 3.

All three types of 5AR have been found to be functionally active in the hair follicles, which suggests that all three may play a role in hair loss. The type 2 enzyme is believed to play the biggest role.

Finasteride (but not dutasteride) also inhibits the 5-beta reductase enzyme (also known as AKR1D1), which is a different enzyme from the three types of 5-alpha reductase. This enzyme is thought not to play any role in hair loss.
 

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Dutasteride at 0.5mg a day removes 98-99% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and around half of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Finasteride at 1mg a day removes 85-90% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and no more than 1% of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Both drugs potently inhibit 5ar type 3.

All three types of 5AR have been found to be functionally active in the hair follicles, which suggests that all three may play a role in hair loss. The type 2 enzyme is believed to play the biggest role.

Finasteride (but not dutasteride) also inhibits the 5-beta reductase enzyme (also known as AKR1D1), which is a different enzyme from the three types of 5-alpha reductase. This enzyme is thought not to play any role in hair loss.
I was struggling to find Type III info so thanks for that and I saw article after article that only mentioned Types I and II when I knew it was II and III. Can you elucidate any more on mysterious Type I that gets no love in print apparently?

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Dutasteride at 0.5mg a day removes 98-99% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and around half of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Finasteride at 1mg a day removes 85-90% of the DHT from 5AR type 2, and no more than 1% of the DHT from 5AR type 1.
Both drugs potently inhibit 5ar type 3.

All three types of 5AR have been found to be functionally active in the hair follicles, which suggests that all three may play a role in hair loss. The type 2 enzyme is believed to play the biggest role.

Finasteride (but not dutasteride) also inhibits the 5-beta reductase enzyme (also known as AKR1D1), which is a different enzyme from the three types of 5-alpha reductase. This enzyme is thought not to play any role in hair loss.
Do you have any thoughts about reductase and progesterone?
 

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How many of us thought that we would be madly trying to learn about structural analogues and racemic mixtures in order to improve our looks and locks however many years back to high school chem. All we ever did was valences and electron balancing of molecules. First I went through my tryptamine period and regretted lacking more chemistry and then my phenethylamine and synthetic cannabis interest and now into ADD meds, ritalin and hormonal steroids. Chemistry can be quite valuable in life, very much so and I used it to free clients on various technicalities well more so plea bargain them down so even in law, stats and chemistry have their place....
 

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IIRC 2.5mg of dutasteride inhibits about 80% of the type I enzyme
I used to bite proscars in fourths, Mr. Math, how that? And now I am on .5mg duta. I was also on 5mg of finasteride until last May and I almost stopped duta to try bica and I am very glad that I didn't cause so much as come out now about DHT making itself in scalp tissue. I won't chance going off it and of course bridge said the same....
 

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In terms of reducing scalp DHT finasteride and dutasteride are in the ball park of 40-60% respectively.
 
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