I Don't Even Know Where To Start

[Dragon_Knight]

I got a lot to cover. In short this is just me venting. The goal is to really just ask for hair regiment tips or where I should start seriously looking. The rest is really just whiny stuff you can skip.

So I started losing my hair since I was 18, denied it while using ketoconazole shampoo to thicken my hair. It seemed to work until I was 22 and then my hair just fell out anyway. My hair is dark and my skin is quite light, even though I can tan. So a small loss seemed bigger than it was. Especially since the contrast between the hair on my body and then on my head was so drastic. Now it's bad to the point where you can see the classic bird nest/horseshoe outline 3 days after shaving my head. There is hair there, but it's about half the density it once was. I'm also a gay man, and believe me when I say this - hair is everything for gay men unless you look like Vin D or have a nicely shaped head(like really nicely shaped).

HAHA - no:
(this is me after freshly shaving my head and also using Nair on my upper arms/shoulders; that day I was feeling exceptionally good about myself for once to actually take a picture)

I have discovered I have low testosterone about 6 months ago, which actually really pissed me off because I am an uncomfortably hairy man; I sweat in 60 degree weather FFS. I shouldn't be having low T problems if I have to deal with hairy-guy problems. I am taking medication and my testosterone has rocketed to normal levels, so at least I don't feel old. But of course it does nothing for my mood or hair or my voice. The damage is done, puberty is over, I'm stuck with what I have and it'll only get worse with age. My voice is androgynous; I can't even stand to hear myself sometimes. It takes about 30 minutes to shave my head and 25 minutes to take care of my back/neck/shoulders so I can go to the beach. Or go jogging, which I haven't done in a long time since I don't even have confidence anymore. Thanks to my fast growing head and body hair, along with my skin/hair color, you can tell I'm not exactly an average man after 2 days of me not taking care of myself. Taking care of myself takes more motivation and time than it does for a normal guy, and I have finite motivation per day - assuming I have any at the start of the day to begin with. Low T, Depression, Anxiety, all because of genetics. Gee, I guess I really needed to go bald to realize life wasn't fair, amirite?

Treatment wise I can't take finasteride, because I have naturally bad hormones already. Taking it would give me some of the really bad side-effects, if not all of them. I don't know much about Minoxidil, but I hear it's more for preventing hairloss and getting some growth. I'd need more than some growth. Any regiment tips would be nice. My hair was my only security blanket and the only thing I actually liked about myself physically.

Sorry if this was a bit much. I needed to vent, seeing as how seeing 200+ men around my age today who were healthy and happy; not a single one was balding, had hairy arms/shoulders, or had noticeable acne. I was basically spending my time being silent and trying not to cry, a lovely byproduct of anxiety and depression mixed with self loathing. Anyway, the normal looking fellows reminded me that I'd only be happy if I weren't existing. Which is something I knew since I was 18, so it's not exactly a revelation.

 

[RoyD]

Look man. If male pattern baldness makes you so depressed why don't you just get on finasteride. I don't get why people complain so much and not even try the one thing which may save their hair. Just take it until you get the side effects. Try and persist through the sides. If you just can't bear them then stop. It's as simple as that. At least give it a shot. It's the only damn thing that will come close to saving your hair.

I keep having to use the Dalai Lama quote which says you should stop worrying about things. If there's something you can do about it then do it instead of worrying. If there's nothing you can do then what's the point of worrying itself?

I think you need to weigh the risk and benefit of finasteride. If you're willing to risk 0.2% of permanent sides for the 60-70% benefit of at least maintaining your hair then go for it. Otherwise just accept your fate. Don't give up until you've thrown every god damn weapon in your arsenal at this disgusting disease.

Btw wrt the regimen I just advice people to start with 1 mg finasteride every alternate day and then start it every day while increasing the size of the dosage until you reach the point that the sides are a little too much. If finasteride works in 6 months then start on Minoxidil 5% for regrowth. You have to have finasteride in your regimen though.

 

[Dragon_Knight]

Look man. If male pattern baldness makes you so depressed why don't you just get on finasteride. I don't get why people complain so much and not even try. . .

Actually, I'm depressed because my body thinks positive emotions are unnecessary so I have to take pills to actually feel happiness or have motivation. I also have naturally low testosterone, on par with a man twice my age. I'm doing hormone therapy and my levels are good and my hairloss kinda halted. Going bald was pretty much the last stop on this genetic train wreck. My hair was my security blanket and the only thing I liked. Now I just want off this ride.

I wish I could take finasteride, but men like me can't. Doing so will greatly screw up my already screwed up body. In other words, I'll get one or more of the really bad side effects. Life is already bad and unfair. I don't need breasts or an even more useless manhood to add to this crapfest.

Anyway, I'm trying Minidoxil. If it doesn't work I'll just settle for being a lonely homo and hopefully die before 30. Knowing my luck I'll naturally live for many miserable decades, but hey, a guy can dream.

 

[RoyD]

Have you consulted a doctor about finasteride or is this the pre-finasteride imaginary side-effects side effect. Like I said, one week of finasteride won't give you manboobs. If you're body is so sensitive then you should react faster and pick up any side effect early on. Besides finasteride actually increases Testosterone by a small amount.

You can try Minoxidil but I doubt how good Minoxidil works on its own without finasteride especially for aggressive hair loss (which I have).

 

[swingline747]

I got a lot to cover. In short this is just me venting. The goal is to really just ask for hair regiment tips or where I should start seriously looking. The rest is really just whiny stuff you can skip.

So I started losing my hair since I was 18, denied it while using ketoconazole shampoo to thicken my hair. It seemed to work until I was 22 and then my hair just fell out anyway. My hair is dark and my skin is quite light, even though I can tan. So a small loss seemed bigger than it was. Especially since the contrast between the hair on my body and then on my head was so drastic. Now it's bad to the point where you can see the classic bird nest/horseshoe outline 3 days after shaving my head. There is hair there, but it's about half the density it once was. I'm also a gay man, and believe me when I say this - hair is everything for gay men unless you look like Vin D or have a nicely shaped head(like really nicely shaped).

HAHA - no:
(this is me after freshly shaving my head and also using Nair on my upper arms/shoulders; that day I was feeling exceptionally good about myself for once to actually take a picture)

I have discovered I have low testosterone about 6 months ago, which actually really pissed me off because I am an uncomfortably hairy man; I sweat in 60 degree weather FFS. I shouldn't be having low T problems if I have to deal with hairy-guy problems. I am taking medication and my testosterone has rocketed to normal levels, so at least I don't feel old. But of course it does nothing for my mood or hair or my voice. The damage is done, puberty is over, I'm stuck with what I have and it'll only get worse with age. My voice is androgynous; I can't even stand to hear myself sometimes. It takes about 30 minutes to shave my head and 25 minutes to take care of my back/neck/shoulders so I can go to the beach. Or go jogging, which I haven't done in a long time since I don't even have confidence anymore. Thanks to my fast growing head and body hair, along with my skin/hair color, you can tell I'm not exactly an average man after 2 days of me not taking care of myself. Taking care of myself takes more motivation and time than it does for a normal guy, and I have finite motivation per day - assuming I have any at the start of the day to begin with. Low T, Depression, Anxiety, all because of genetics. Gee, I guess I really needed to go bald to realize life wasn't fair, amirite?

Treatment wise I can't take finasteride, because I have naturally bad hormones already. Taking it would give me some of the really bad side-effects, if not all of them. I don't know much about Minoxidil, but I hear it's more for preventing hairloss and getting some growth. I'd need more than some growth. Any regiment tips would be nice. My hair was my only security blanket and the only thing I actually liked about myself physically.

Sorry if this was a bit much. I needed to vent, seeing as how seeing 200+ men around my age today who were healthy and happy; not a single one was balding, had hairy arms/shoulders, or had noticeable acne. I was basically spending my time being silent and trying not to cry, a lovely byproduct of anxiety and depression mixed with self loathing. Anyway, the normal looking fellows reminded me that I'd only be happy if I weren't existing. Which is something I knew since I was 18, so it's not exactly a revelation.

Dude you sound a lot like me honestly.

I either shave or have my back waxed. If you shave it DO NOT use a razor use clippers on the blade setting. A blade will make it grow back stubbly and ugly, clippers will make it so short its unoticable and it wont bother you when it grows back.
If you wax it eventually it will start to come in less and less.

Now heres my next suggestion. If you are one of those UNNATURALLY hairy guys with a crazy sweater back then talk to a hair transplant surgeon about using some of it for a transplant. I will eventually be using body hair for my crown area and density. My front hairline has finally just seemed to start booming from my first hair transplant and even my GF is acknowledging what a huge difference it is. I plan on keeping my hair parted to the side/short so any hair should be workable.

As for the sweating, GOOD GOD if you find ANY tips for this let me know lol. My best friend who used to be 350 lbs would come to the beach with me in layered tee shirts and never break a sweat meanwhile I could sweat balls in a snow storm with a tank top!

I usually just LATHER myself in baby powder. I will say I think it has something to do with my low blood pressure and anemia. Youd think with all the water I expel through the day Id be ripped as hell lol!

dont stop running. If you enjoy it then DO IT! I love running and running by the beach near my house. When youre running you shouldnt be thinking of everyone else and if your body hair is that much of a bother then wear a shirt.

 

[Cue Bald]

Yeah I'd look into FUE / BHT, i am looking into it myself (NW4) - looking around to see what the max amount of grafts anyone has had before.

Failing that, you could always put on a load of weight and become a Bear ?

 

[Misanthrope]

If only the whole scalp could be even, even if that means thinness all over. I think it would look better.

That's why I think that if your doctor doesn't mind going the extra mile, tell him to overharvest your sides.

Exactly what I'm hoping to do with my FUE. Hell, I wouldn't care if the back and sides look thin and crappy. You could always buzz those down with a 0-guard anyway, and grow out the top a little.

 

[RoyD]

What's the cost per graft like in Europe? Besides can you even extract body hair for your scalp? I've heard only scalp hair can be used for hair transplant and not hair on other body parts. If you can then I guess under arm hair wouldn't be so bad. I know it sounds disgusting but it would be practical. I'm a hair guy myself so idk.