I found my hairline pic when I was 12

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So I was looking through my photos, when I was younger, and I found one with exposed hairline. Holy sh*t. Look at this round beauty. It used to frame my face so well. I have small face so the change of my proportions was dramatic. Now I look like a f*****g 5head. I would suck on diabetic feet to get you back baby. How do I even make surgeon to recreate that sh*t?
Wtf thats a female's hairline! Lol nice! But I had a similar hairline back then. So sad androgens make them go away xD
 

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Oh about hairline i got an appointment with dr rahals team next month. Im lookong to lower hairlinr by 1cm and fill in temples. Im thinkijg 1500 grafts will be needed. Scared theyre gonna reject the idea. Should i alsp tell them im turning into a tranny
 

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So I was looking through my photos, when I was younger, and I found one with exposed hairline. Holy sh*t. Look at this round beauty. It used to frame my face so well. I have small face so the change of my proportions was dramatic. Now I look like a f*****g 5head. I would suck on diabetic feet to get you back baby. How do I even make surgeon to recreate that sh*t?
The "canopy" effect is what I call the ovalization of the hairline that can occur under HRT. It makes for regrowth in a very different pattern from the pattern of hair fall. It's less as though the hairline and temples are filling in than that they are in essence folding downward. The amount of hair that I had lost in front of the ears is staggering and I barely considered that even as an area of hair loss.
 

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lol I'm the only guy on Earth who even at 15 had a sparse frontal line, that's my destiny I think
Well you are a severe case. I dont think minoxidil, fina and duta will do you much. What I saw on the whole forum till now is that people balding severly under 20 years old dont need to bother with 5ar inhibitors, as they are just powerless.
Anti Androgens are our friends. Some heavy cases already need to take the plunge and use HRT for a year or two to reverse their baldness, sad but true.

Great examples of people taking HRT and then stopping are; Noah and Ikarus, maintaining on 5ari and/or AA's.

The best protocol for reversing baldness is, we all know;

0,5mg Dutasteride
50mg Bicalutamide
2mg Estradiol
(5mg Minoxidil)
(80-100mg Eplerenone)

After regrowth a person can ditch the E2 and continue with:

0,5mg
100mg Bicalutamide
(5mg Minoxidil)

I am not a doctor, and for some I may sound totally retarded, but if you really value your hair, you have to sacrifice something to get it back.

Edit:

Btw; nowadays it's not your destiny to become bald. Imo its optional.
 

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Well you are a severe case. I dont think minoxidil, fina and duta will do you much. What I saw on the whole forum till now is that people balding severly under 20 years old dont need to bother with 5ar inhibitors, as they are just powerless.
Anti Androgens are our friends. Some heavy cases already need to take the plunge and use HRT for a year or two to reverse their baldness, sad but true.

Great examples of people taking HRT and then stopping are; Noah and Ikarus, maintaining on 5ari and/or AA's.

The best protocol for reversing baldness is, we all know;

0,5mg Dutasteride
50mg Bicalutamide
2mg Estradiol
(5mg Minoxidil)
(80-100mg Eplerenone)

After regrowth a person can ditch the E2 and continue with:

0,5mg
100mg Bicalutamide
(5mg Minoxidil)

I am not a doctor, and for some I may sound totally retarded, but if you really value your hair, you have to sacrifice something to get it back.

Edit:

Btw; nowadays it's not your destiny to become bald. Imo its optional.
You should explain why about Epleronone because MtF's don't regularly use this med and I don't see why this person should. Otherwise, yes, the earlier the better and I would recommend beard removal.
 

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There have been assertions that many FtMs's begin to bald immediately after trying to grow shitty "minoxidil" beards. There's some connection, maybe with beard follicles being a bridge for inflammation and dermatitis to scalp follicles but half of the planet has neither hair loss nor beard follicles and actually far more than half of the planet if we include boys.

Scalp hair in humans with the exception of Native Americans who have no beard follicles generally, hair is an XX trait on the scalp after puberty. For most XY's regardless, I think that they would be seen as more attractive without a beard but yes, less virile. Beards work best when human females are in estrus. The rest of the time as the joke goes, XX's prefer the company of more passive, more attractive men but as long as you are getting some, who cares is how I see it.

Particularly in Indo-Europeans and Semites, there is a very equilibrated process of balancing scalp hair and beard hair hormonally. Some males never develop beards and they probably have far better hair--I can only base this on personal observation as surprisingly few or no studies related to the growth of beard follicles and hair loss have been done but generally, the more T, the more beard follicles and the more robust they are.
 
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You should explain why about Epleronone because MtF's don't regularly use this med and I don't see why this person should. Otherwise, yes, the earlier the better and I would recommend beard removal.
Spironolactone seems to be superior to bicalutamide in terms of regrowth, despite of the fact that spironolactone has very weak, and even activating, AA properties, while Bicalutamide is very strong, effective in concentration.

It seems like spironolactone has something what bica dont have. I assume it's the MCR antagonizing properties.
Eplerenone is a good alternative, as it has almost no anti androgenic properties, so it does not interfere with bicalutamide.

And yes, beard is ugly in young ages, but it looks stylish when older, I wouldn't remove it, just shaving it.

Imagine shaving your head every 2 days. Rest in Peace.
 

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Why would you recommend beard removal? When using HRT as a male, its important to maintain any manly feature you can. Removing beard is the opposite of that.
I have to agree here. The protocol I mentioned is the strongest possible, but doable for a cis-men who doesnt care much of side effects.

Gyno surgery has to be obtained after HRT cycle, thats the only permanent effect. Noah is a great example.

(You will look much younger on this protocol despite of the fact how old you are. Bicalutsmide is able to stop aging as androgenic gene expression is blocked)

I won't use HRT now, maybe in 2-3 years, I am not done with development yet (I think?)
so I don't want to interfere with the bone development of my hips and upper body.
 

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Spironolactone seems to be superior to bicalutamide in terms of regrowth, despite of the fact that spironolactone has very weak, and even activating, AA properties, while Bicalutamide is very strong, effective in concentration.

It seems like spironolactone has something what bica dont have. I assume it's the MCR antagonizing properties.
Eplerenone is a good alternative, as it has almost no anti androgenic properties, so it does not interfere with bicalutamide.

And yes, beard is ugly in young ages, but it looks stylish when older, I wouldn't remove it, just shaving it.

Imagine shaving your head every 2 days. Rest in Peace.
RIP? That's what you say about dead people....
 

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I have to agree here. The protocol I mentioned is the strongest possible, but doable for a cis-men who doesnt care much of side effects.

Gyno surgery has to be obtained after HRT cycle, thats the only permanent effect. Noah is a great example.

(You will look much younger on this protocol despite of the fact how old you are. Bicalutsmide is able to stop aging as androgenic gene expression is blocked)

I won't use HRT now, maybe in 2-3 years, I am not done with development yet (I think?)
so I don't want to interfere with the bone development of my hips and upper body.
You guys are much younger without fully developed beards. Beards can thicken essentially one's entire life and a beard will do much to eradicate the youth-promoting effects of HRT. That's why the MtF community urges people towards beard removal, not to mention that you can't pass otherwise if your beard is fully developed. Some people like @bridgeburn do see beard growth lessen but for many of us, if anything HRT makes the beard both thicker and nicer in terms of quality but incredibly hard to shave close. Chacun a son gout; chacune a sa betise....
 

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I have to agree here. The protocol I mentioned is the strongest possible, but doable for a cis-men who doesnt care much of side effects.

Gyno surgery has to be obtained after HRT cycle, thats the only permanent effect. Noah is a great example.

(You will look much younger on this protocol despite of the fact how old you are. Bicalutsmide is able to stop aging as androgenic gene expression is blocked)

I won't use HRT now, maybe in 2-3 years, I am not done with development yet (I think?)
so I don't want to interfere with the bone development of my hips and upper body.
If you start liking this, you will regret waiting because hips are a feature that HRT struggles to create. My hips don't look entirely right in a female context. 24 or so is the age where the bones fuse permanently.
 
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