I hates the FDA

Flavio

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I'm not too fond of the FDA. I know these guys protect consummers and save lives, but too much strictness is not good either.

To me, not approving a good drug is just as negative as approving a bad drug. And there are many drugs that are effective and safe and have not been approved by the FDA - only God knows why.

A good example is oral phentolamine for erectile dysfunction (the late Vasomax). This drug is safe, effective (I've tried it with excellent results) and it is available in South America. There are many studies that show its efficacy and safety, it is a popular treatment that Brazilian doctors prescribe everyday, but it is not available in the USA because the FDA doesn't want to - I never really understood why. Thank God for the Internet, or I wouldn't be able to buy my phentolamine pills here in Europe.

And then there's the bureaucracy. It's outrageous that a new treatment that could potentially save lives takes so long to be approved - ten years or more. Phase 3 trials are usually the most expensive, time-consuming and difficult trials to design and run. All caution is necessary when examining new drugs, but most of the times these delays seem to be unjustified and will do more harm than good.

Let's hope and pray the FDA doesn't screw things up with gene therapy for erectile dysfunction and the new baldness treatment by Intercytex.
 

ali777

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I have one question: Why do you care about the FDA?

You should be complaining about the EU equivalent of it, ie the European Medicines Agency. The FDA has nothing to do with what you can buy in your local pharmacy.

I have another question. We are the same age, I know my limits, why do you want to have so much sex? I've been "seeing" someone for 10 days now, the first week we were at it non-stop, thank God it was Easter and we had a few days off. I didn't know my body was able to have so much sex :whistle:

Sex is fun and we all want to do it as much as possible, but don't you think once a day is kinda the upper limit for people our age? And our body can handle that naturally. How do you even find the time to have so much sex? If I was to choose my optimum number, I'd say 4 times a week is ideal. But in a proper long term relationship that number falls down to 2 :sobbing:...
 

Flavio

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ali777 said:
I have one question: Why do you care about the FDA?
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European consummers can also benefit from the approval of a new drug by the FDA - e.g. it is easier for us to order drugs that are sold in America. I buy Rogaine Foam from American suppliers, it's not available in Portugal.

I don't want to discuss my sexual habits here, but I'm not a sex addict and I don't care about quantity. To me, only quality matters.
 

cuebald

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I guess erectile dysfunction drugs are low priority when compared to testing out anti-cancer and anti-aids drugs. Too right IMO.
 

Petchsky

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I've long been of the opinion that the FDA is corrupt, especially when it banned a brilliant non toxic sleeping drug with false justifications that didn't hold up when examined independently.

Many pharmaceutical companies benefited from this ban on GHB, which could be purchased from health stores. The replacement drugs that pharma companies could benefit from are poor and full of side effects.
 

Flavio

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cuebald said:
I guess erectile dysfunction drugs are low priority when compared to testing out anti-cancer and anti-aids drugs. Too right IMO.

Yeah right.

And maybe we should stop all research on ED and hairloss because of cancer and poor kids in Africa. (obvious sarcasm)
 

Flavio

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Here's something interesting about bremelanotide, another ED drug that the FDA didn't approve (God knows why!), just like oral phentolamine:

«I've read many comments and theories as to why the FDA declined approval of Bremelanotide, especially in light of the fact v**** has been approved, even though it has a side effect of lowering blood pressure...

One (conspiracy?) theory relates to the fact the current FDA commissioner appointed by George Bush - Andrew von Eschenbach - is a staunch Texan republican and close friend to the Bush family. I'm not sure if that theory centers on speculation that bible thumping Republicans don't believe an enjoyable sex life is important, or pointing out the fact that v**** was approved when a Democratic President Clinton was in the White House. :)

Others have speculated that huge companies (like Pfizer for instance) may have influenced the FDAs decision regarding approval of this relatively small company's competitive product.»


http://www.bremolanotide.com/bremelanotide-bulletin/
 

powersam

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i am usually totally against these conspiracy theories but with so much money involved...
 

casperz

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I think the FDA is like any other US government institution: bloated and
outdated. They have screwed up so many things, just look at the whole
vioxx mess. They did not protect anyone and yet we still have to have a
prescription for Propecia. Amazing.

Sex is fun and we all want to do it as much as possible, but don't you think once a day is kinda the upper limit for people our age? And our body can handle that naturally. How do you even find the time to have so much sex? If I was to choose my optimum number, I'd say 4 times a week is ideal. But in a proper long term relationship that number falls down to 2

The changes in sex frequency is the same as getting a new sports car. At first
you want to drive the crap out of it, you take trips that you normally
would not take, just to drive it. Your obsessed with it for a while, buying new
things for it and making it look great. After the new wears off you settle down
and just drive it when you need to. But every now and then you take a look at
that car that was once bright and shiny and is now looking a little worn and it
reminds you of how it was when it was new. As you remember all those great
back roads you use to take in that shiny new car or all the limits you pushed
you get revved up again and you start driving it just like when you first got it.
The cycle happens over and over. And some guys trade in the old car for the
excitement of a new one, some just like the familiar smell and sound of the
old one. Either way it's all about the enjoyment of driving the crap out of it
from time to time and sometimes that means a few trips in one day.
 
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