I'd like some opinions/help. Side effects and PFS.

thedarkcolor

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Hey there everyone,

I'm 23, about to be 24 this year. On February 24th, I got a prescription from my doctor for 5 mg generic finasteride for hair loss. I have a receding hairline, probably about a Norwood 2-2.5 or so. I have had long hair my whole life, and was in denial for quite a bit, so when I finally came to terms, I was kind of excited about starting treatment and actually doing something about my situation. I did a lot of online research before approaching my doctor and thought I was more or less ready/willing to take the risk.

Anyways, I split the pill into quarters and took my first dosage at 1.25 mg the same day I received the script. Halfway through the day I got ballache, which I figured was more or less normal. I continued taking it for two additional days after this. On the second day I got ballache, and tender breasts/breast pain. On the third day the pain was affecting my work, and so I discontinued medication completely and waited a week.

My plan was to wait a week for the drug to leave my system and start up again at 1/8th dosage to see if I still got side effects. The week in between where I was not taking anything, I felt fine and everything returned to normal. Then a week afterward, I began taking .625 mg per day....for about 4-5 days. Ballache was not as bad, but still present and after the 3rd or 4th day I began getting breast pain and tenderness again. This time I figured it was not worth it and discontinued. I have no further plans to take the drug again.

March 9th was the last day I took the drug at this 1/8th dosage. In the few days after I stopped taking the drug, I had armpit pains off and off that would fluctuate throughout the day. I could think clearly and still had regular libido. It's been about a week and a half now and I feel like maybe I'm experiencing PFS.

The armpit pains get incredibly bad on some days. Yesterday, I even went to the doctor because I was scared. They did an exam for lumps/gyno or tissue and said there was no additional growth, lumps, or new tissue growth. Over the past few days I've been waking up before my alarm at 5:00am in the morning, my memory is not great, and I'm sluggish at work. I feel numb to humor and happiness and today my semen looked very watery. I feel exhausted when I wake up and even though I do no have the energy to do anything I can barely go back to sleep when I randomly wake up at 5:00am. The brainfog comes and goes throughout the day and there are little windows of clarity. Armpit pains also fluctuate.

Is there anything you guys can recommend? I've read horror stories about people never recovering and that's my fear at the moment. I love my job and I often work long hours, but over the last 3-4 days everything seems very bland and unenjoyable.

I know for some people finasteride is little less than a miracle when it comes to hair regrowth, and for others their body reacts to it like a poison. I'm not trying to start some war or jump on the anti-finasteride hatewagon. I'm just scared and looking for some advice and help.

How long did other users experience the crash and is it in most cases reversible? Is there anything I can do to combat these symptoms? It seems like it's getting worse for me each day rather than better. Especially considering I took the drug for only 8 days in total.

Thanks for reading.
 

swingline747

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get your testotserone and dht levels checked. Im sure you didnt before hand (raising hand) but it will give you an idea of if your hormones are off. My T was SUPER low. I still have some issues lingering. My libido is not great, and my balls tend to minor ache and seem pulled up more than they hang now but my T levels were increasing the last I checked. I want to get hem checked again though.

You may just have to wait it out. How are your manly parts? All working? If thats good I would not sweat pit pains they will prob subside eventually. The stuff took 8 months but it is my most regretted thing honestly.
 

SayifDoit

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You kmow what.
Start staking Zinc supplements.
Once a day.

And do what swingline said.

Honestly zinc supplement will ****ing help a lot.
 

thedarkcolor

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I didn't get levels checked beforehand. Probably should have.

This morning my semen was watery and it seemed harder than usual to get an erection, which scared me considering my semen used to only get watery if I masturbated 4-5 times in one day. But the day prior things seemed okay in regards to sexual side effects.

Yesterday I bought some Vitamin B complex vitamins and began taking those and I have also been taking a once a day multivitamin, biotin, and a probiotic multi all daily for some time now. What are the chances I'll recover in the next couple of weeks if I take it easy, get a lot of rest, and try to remain positive?

Thank you swingline747 and sayifdoit for the replies and suggestions. I appreciate it greatly.

Do you think I have a good chance of stabilizing?
 

SayifDoit

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Dudeee seriously start taking zinc supplements, It will boost your testosterone levels!!
 

swingline747

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I dont get the ZINC thing. I know its supposed to boost T but zinc alone never seemed to help me.

I would say DHEA supplements helps me more. But combine them, plus start getting some exercise in and keep your fingers crossed. Sometimes it just takes time for it to pass.
Can I ask a personal question. My main side I still deal with is my sack does not hang like it used to. It always seems tight now, and trust me it bothers the hell out of me and is uncomfortable. Have you noticed this at all? with yours NOT MINE of course "cough cough".
 

stupidkoko

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I have some advice for you.

Dont read other peoples stories, at least not for now.
If you exercise, do light exercise only, dont over-exercise.
Eat healthy.
Try to sleep in regular patterns.
Go easy on the alcohol.
More important than any of these, stop thinking about any of the side-effects or analyzing your current state.

It is completly fine if you fail to do any of these but its better to do it than not.

These posts that claim pfs is permanent, irreversible or deadly-like are not true at all. Almost everyone improve more or less at some point. Yes it is persistent in some cases and even long-term for some but it gets better, without doubt im telling you.

Just take it easy for the next couple of weeks, you will be fine.
 

thedarkcolor

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I dont get the ZINC thing. I know its supposed to boost T but zinc alone never seemed to help me.

I would say DHEA supplements helps me more. But combine them, plus start getting some exercise in and keep your fingers crossed. Sometimes it just takes time for it to pass.
Can I ask a personal question. My main side I still deal with is my sack does not hang like it used to. It always seems tight now, and trust me it bothers the hell out of me and is uncomfortable. Have you noticed this at all? with yours NOT MINE of course "cough cough".

So yesterday I purchased some DHEA supplements, liquid Vitamin D3, and some testosterone supplements. I began taking those this morning and I felt pretty okay today, but about three fourths through the day my testicles began aching VERY badly.

To answer your question, my testicles go through phases, right now they're withdrawn and not hanging as they used to. Last night they hung pretty low. Seems lopsided almost. Very uncomfortable.
 

swingline747

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So yesterday I purchased some DHEA supplements, liquid Vitamin D3, and some testosterone supplements. I began taking those this morning and I felt pretty okay today, but about three fourths through the day my testicles began aching VERY badly.

To answer your question, my testicles go through phases, right now they're withdrawn and not hanging as they used to. Last night they hung pretty low. Seems lopsided almost. Very uncomfortable.

Mine are also lopsided a lot. I know one is always usually lower but mine were actually pretty much equal. I used to sit on my my nuts like 3 times day. I mean I had pretty friggin HUGE balls but finasteride pretty much eliminated that. I remember a couple months ago I sat on them for the first time in almost a year and it was one of the oddly happiest days I could remember, but that was the last time it happened again.

Im thinking of hitting a Urologist again. That prostate massage to get the bacteria out thing pops up a lot when I research. I REALLY dont want the finger in the old hiney but honestly if my balls can be comfortable again it would be nice. Its going to take more than one day for any supplement to start working.
Do you exercise at all? If not you may want to start.
 

californiaoceans911

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The more I read up on these forums, the more I'm convinced I should not take finasteride. Some people don't see the side effects and assume everything is ok, but long term I am not so sure....especially when coming off of the drug after years of taking it. Taking drugs for extended periods of time can alter the way your brain works. Losing 60% of your DHT seems a bit crazy to me. If a 10% change in DHT levels caused hair to grow back, I would say ok that's probably not so bad....but 60% is a drastic change in body chemistry.
 

thedarkcolor

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Hey everyone- I just wanted to update you all.

It's been about a month and some change since I posted here and my PFS has gone away completely. I've made a 100% recovery. I went out of town for work in the beginning of April and still had HARDCORE symptoms, and then slowly day by day, they began to lesson. The armpit pains slowly went away, I was slowly able to gain more hours of sleep each night, I could concentrate better... my emotions and personality came back. God damn, what a nightmare that was. I'm NEVER taking finasteride again. Jeez, I felt like I was a different person. Testical aches, little to no libido. I even went to the hospital twice for panic attacks and overall confusion.

It seriously feels like a different lifetime. It's incredible. I'm SO thankful I was able to make a 100% recovery. I didn't follow some miracle diet or whatever most people suggest. I just rode it out. I'm guessing this is only because I took finateride for 9 days total.

Whatever happens, now that I've recovered, I've come to appreiciate life so much more. Please be careful with finasteride people and weigh the risk. For some people it's little less than a miracle. For some it's a poison. Please be careful and keep yourself educated. And thanks for those who reached out and offered advice/help when I was dealing with PFS.

Appreciative,

TheDarkColor
 
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