If Dermarolling Works With The Mechanism Of Wounding Being A Precursor To Regeneration

scaredabouthair

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Or by inducing blood flow.

Why doesn't the transplanted hair from the donor area recede assuming no treatment?
 

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Or by inducing blood flow.

Why doesn't the transplanted hair from the donor area recede assuming no treatment?

Wounding doesn't work by inducing blood flow.

Second, the reason the transplanted hair doesn't recede is because it doesn't have the genetic susceptibility to shrinking from exposure to DHT.

That's why they transplant it.
 

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Wounding doesn't work by inducing blood flow.

Second, the reason the transplanted hair doesn't recede is because it doesn't have the genetic susceptibility to shrinking from exposure to DHT.

That's why they transplant it.

And what is the difference between a follicle sitting on the occipital area vs a follicle sitting on male pattern baldness prone areas?

What about people reporting miniaturization years after transplating the hair?

Seems to me that the follicles are the same, what changes is the tissue where they are sitting at.
 

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And what is the difference between a follicle sitting on the occipital area vs a follicle sitting on male pattern baldness prone areas?

What about people reporting miniaturization years after transplating the hair?

Seems to me that the follicles are the same, what changes is the tissue where they are sitting at.

Miniaturization can have various backgrounds I guess. It can be a result of a diffuse thinning. In such case (DUPA especially) occipital follicles are prone to miniaturization as well. Also miniaturization can occur due to inflammation of the scalp, thyroid problems, some dandruff problems, sebaceous glands being overactive and maybe even more.
 

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And what is the difference between a follicle sitting on the occipital area vs a follicle sitting on male pattern baldness prone areas?

What about people reporting miniaturization years after transplating the hair?

Seems to me that the follicles are the same, what changes is the tissue where they are sitting at.
Donor hair in transplants can come from areas of the head like the back and sides which are still susceptible to DHT. While even the most bald of men still have a fringe of hair that is immune from DHT, some hair on the backs and sides that seem safe are not. For doctors doing transplant surgery, they have to take the donor follicles that are in the safe zones. If some of these transplanted hairs come from a not so safe zone, over time, these hairs too will miniaturize
 

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I'm still unconvinced that even hair in the "safe zone" is truly safe when transplanted. This is why I think finasteride is a must when getting a transplant.
 

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Seems to me that the follicles are the same, what changes is the tissue where they are sitting at.

Well, you're wrong so...

And what is the difference between a follicle sitting on the occipital area vs a follicle sitting on male pattern baldness prone areas?

The ones sitting on the baldness-prone areas' androgen receptors react to exposure to DHT in the form of shrinking and the ones in the other areas don't, or at least are a lot less susceptible.

Why? Nobody knows. What is known though, is that you can take an immune hair and transplant it on your *** if you want, and it will be there until your dying day — thus, disproving the idea that it is the fault of location and not the follicle itself.
 

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wounding induces angiogenesis and in the first phase increased blood flow.
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This isn't really about Androgenetic Alopecia but just shows hairs adapt to the other local hair length.

https://www.forhair.com/studies/body-hair-transplant-update-14-month-progress/


"Recall that if you move 10 head hairs to the leg, only 6 will grow. If you move these 6 back to the scalp, 5 will grow. These yields correspond to the higher anagen percentage on the scalp and the higher telogen percentage on the leg. Head hairs grow short on the leg or eyebrow. It follows that body hairs should grow longer on the head."

I might add this phenomenon MAY have caused some mis-interpretation in the Nordstrom(?) study where they took balding hair and transplanted to the arm. That hair fell out supposedly on time. But I dont think they knew of the above information?
 

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Androgen damage happens to all (scalp) hair. It's a matter of degree about which areas get worst.

Look at the "safe" area on a slick bald Norwood#7 - you can bet it will be a lot thinner than a Norwood#1's hair.

Body hair transplants partially adopt the traits of the scalp area (hair length, etc) over time. Eventually they get about halfway to scalp hair length. That suggests to me (it's just a theory) that transplanted 'safe zone' hair may eventually get halfway to the baldness susceptibility of area they are implanted, too.

But eventually getting half the baldness trait would not necessarily mean it ends up half as bald. The native hair was accumulating damage since puberty. The transplanted hair wouldn't even become half as susceptible for a while after it was moved, judging by body hair results. It's a gradual thing.

I'm sure there is a lot of individual variation too. There always is with everything.

Bottom line: There is much more evidence that transplanted hair keeps its original areas' traits than not. Some men with bad transplant work have paid for laser hair removal just to make their grafts quit.
 
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