If not for women why bother with life? (not joking - serious discussion)

Feelsbadman

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Hey guys

I need to talk to you and i need some serious and honest answers;

the reality is for a long time i lived my life for women. A big motivation of mine was women. I thought i need to work hard and get a job as i don't want my future wife/gf t think i'm a loser, i need a better car, a house and all these things. I tried so desperately to improve myself for women.

I eventually got a girlfriend who had a mental illness. It was a good experience until the point she did some really fucked up sh*t that was really traumatic. Ok i dodged a bullet. Be thankful i didn't marry or have kid with her. But it was very painful and disturbing. The pain was so bad it made me completely disregard women.

Yes I miss dating. I miss good sex. I miss those things. But at the same time i do not care.

Now that I stopped caring about relationships and women... I realised i don't really care so much about doing well in life. I don't care if my friends or family think I'm a loser. I have nothing to prove.

If i got a better job and earned 100k instead of 65k. So what? If i drove a better car? So what. I feel completely free. I do not give a f*** what people care about me or my status or how much money I really have. I could do a lot better in my life. I could get a better job and even a better girlfriend. But i do not care.


I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? If you don't care about women then why try hard at your job? why do anything? for pride? for your own ego? But once you detach yourself from your ego..all you have is your self and these other things seem pointless.
 

DoctorHouse

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Hey guys

I need to talk to you and i need some serious and honest answers;

the reality is for a long time i lived my life for women. A big motivation of mine was women. I thought i need to work hard and get a job as i don't want my future wife/gf t think i'm a loser, i need a better car, a house and all these things. I tried so desperately to improve myself for women.

I eventually got a girlfriend who had a mental illness. It was a good experience until the point she did some really fucked up sh*t that was really traumatic. Ok i dodged a bullet. Be thankful i didn't marry or have kid with her. But it was very painful and disturbing. The pain was so bad it made me completely disregard women.

Yes I miss dating. I miss good sex. I miss those things. But at the same time i do not care.

Now that I stopped caring about relationships and women... I realised i don't really care so much about doing well in life. I don't care if my friends or family think I'm a loser. I have nothing to prove.

If i got a better job and earned 100k instead of 65k. So what? If i drove a better car? So what. I feel completely free. I do not give a f*** what people care about me or my status or how much money I really have. I could do a lot better in my life. I could get a better job and even a better girlfriend. But i do not care.


I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? If you don't care about women then why try hard at your job? why do anything? for pride? for your own ego? But once you detach yourself from your ego..all you have is your self and these other things seem pointless.
How much do you care about yourself? How much do you value yourself? Those are the questions you need to answer. When was the last time you did something that changed someone else's life for the better and you got nothing in return?

I think you need to realize that people seek out other people for a purpose. For example, if you are starting a new business, you need to find people you can trust and work with. You do the hiring and firing. It's kind of like a marriage. You have to work hard to keep the business afloat and successful. If neither of you continue to make any effort to keep the business successful, you will fail. It takes two to make a relationship work. If you can't rely on yourself right now then how do expect anyone else to want to go into business with you.

Relationships are like a business partnership. They work similar with fringe benefits if the business is doing well. If you try to sabotage your business, then no more fringe benefits and the partnership will dissolve and you go your separate ways. I think you need to realize what is your main purpose in life and what type of business partnership you want. I don't think you have clue right now what you want. And if you think this forum has the answer for you, then I have a diamond mine in my backyard I would like to sell to you for a really good price.
 

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How much do you care about yourself? How much do you value yourself? Those are the questions you need to answer. When was the last time you did something that changed someone else's life for the better and you got nothing in return?

I think you need to realize that people seek out other people for a purpose. For example, if you are starting a new business, you need to find people you can trust and work with. You do the hiring and firing. It's kind of like a marriage. You have to work hard to keep the business afloat and successful. If neither of you continue to make any effort to keep the business successful, you will fail. It takes two to make a relationship work. If you can't rely on yourself right now then how do expect anyone else to want to go into business with you.

Relationships are like a business partnership. They work similar with fringe benefits if the business is doing well. If you try to sabotage your business, then no more fringe benefits and the partnership will dissolve and you go your separate ways. I think you need to realize what is your main purpose in life and what type of business partnership you want. I don't think you have clue right now what you want. And if you think this forum has the answer for you, then I have a diamond mine in my backyard I would like to sell to you for a really good price.
I understand what you're saying but what if you don't care about being a business partner, you don't care about having a relationship you don't even care about having a purpose. You just exist, and live. And you're content ? Why try ? Why even bother?
 

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I've feel like connor murphy but not on the drugs. just detatched from ego and life.
Well that is a start. You can be like him. At least you have a goal now. Good luck! I hope someone on this forum can be your guiding light. I just ran out of batteries so I can't help you anymore.
 

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Money is meaningless if below a looks threshold to actually have a woman love you for more than that
Just workmin so you have more time to cope with travelling etc
Bald + hard working and paying taxes = ultra cucked

society owes you hair for your contribution

no hair? f*** you too
 

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I was like you and maybe I still am. I thought that I should just work hard in all areas of life (fitness, social, work, learning, hobbies) then be able to get married and have kids if you want to. I worked hard and I did better than expected. In fact, in some of those areas I think that I have outperformed the people who bullied me when I was younger. But of course I am bald and so I have to come to to terms that all of the work won't amount to much. What I have found

-there is arguably more bad than good, more suffering than pleasure in the world and in life. Look at war, racism, violence and all manner of terrible things. Baldness isn't even that bad and look how much it's ruining us. How bad must it be for people who are living with no food or with war? Social media and the internet allows people to express their true views without fear of being reprimanded. And look what we have. There is divisiveness, racism, hate speech and more.
-most people aren't happy. If all of the problems that we complain about now went away, it is likely that we would complain about something else. It must be part of the human condition.
-For most hierarchical things in life, you can't work your way up. You need to born. Do you think that most guys with good lives did the work that we did? They were probably born with good hair genes. Similarly, do you think that the world number 5 sprinter works any more hard than the world number 95 sprinter? It's a difference of talent.
-Further to the previous point, most of us aren't born special and have to deal with that.

TLDR. You are not special, life is not happy and does not happy a purpose. We all have to deal with it.
 

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You outperform urself so you feel realized and accomplished. Many of us grow facing intellectual, or physical, or emotional challenges. And it's in your own inner nature to crave that... primal instinct! Just like sex...

my ex girlfriend who had was fucked up completely destroyed this some how
icant sem to get it back
 

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I was like you and maybe I still am. I thought that I should just work hard in all areas of life (fitness, social, work, learning, hobbies) then be able to get married and have kids if you want to. I worked hard and I did better than expected. In fact, in some of those areas I think that I have outperformed the people who bullied me when I was younger. But of course I am bald and so I have to come to to terms that all of the work won't amount to much. What I have found

-there is arguably more bad than good, more suffering than pleasure in the world and in life. Look at war, racism, violence and all manner of terrible things. Baldness isn't even that bad and look how much it's ruining us. How bad must it be for people who are living with no food or with war? Social media and the internet allows people to express their true views without fear of being reprimanded. And look what we have. There is divisiveness, racism, hate speech and more.
-most people aren't happy. If all of the problems that we complain about now went away, it is likely that we would complain about something else. It must be part of the human condition.
-For most hierarchical things in life, you can't work your way up. You need to born. Do you think that most guys with good lives did the work that we did? They were probably born with good hair genes. Similarly, do you think that the world number 5 sprinter works any more hard than the world number 95 sprinter? It's a difference of talent.
-Further to the previous point, most of us aren't born special and have to deal with that.

TLDR. You are not special, life is not happy and does not happy a purpose. We all have to deal with it.
good post
 

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Never forget this
Yes, but every rule does have it's exceptions. Jeff Bezos would be one example. You have to just learn to be the exception to the rule and seek out people who are the same. Think about all the people in your life you encountered and which ones you chose to be your friend. And on what grounds did you accept them as your friend?
 

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Yes, but every rule does have it's exceptions. Jeff Bezos would be one example. You have to just learn to be the exception to the rule and seek out people who are the same. Think about all the people in your life you encountered and which ones you chose to be your friend. And on what grounds did you accept them as your friend?
jeff bezos is like 60

at a certain age looks doesnt has that impact on your social status anymore
 
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