Ijust saw this in one of our main UK newspapers, please say it may be true !!!!
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Sparky4444
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You should qualify your tone because if you're pessimistic about recovering a full head of hair like you had when you were 18, then yes, I wouldn't get to excited...
But we're due for something more powerful and updated than Propecia and minoxidil....it's time to completely halt loss in it's tracks...and this is better than nothing because a guy can still get a hair transplant that will give him some better coverage than being completely bald....
Nashville Hairline
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Surely they're saying two years cos the products are already out there and have been tested for safety in humans before i.e. they can skip a couple of phases of FDA testing
I wouldn't expect miracles with this i.e. regrowth from NW5 to NW1, but a topical, legally available alternative to finasteride would be superb.
Sparky4444
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yeah, but I have a different feeling about it this time...I mean, it's always been "a potential solution 5 years from now" plug that just pisses off everyone...now, it's like "we're negotiating to get this thing out there...we have a plan"....it's more aggressive...there's so much money to be made and I think they can smell it this time....
....things are progressing fast now...this is good...
I think there a lot of guys out there that want to treat male pattern baldness but feel right now its a losing battle not worth the risks and frankly I dont blame them. Propecia is the only real weapon right now and even with it your fighting a long term losing battle with plenty of risks from just using propecia long term. Its barely a solution to male pattern baldness so I think right now most guys just live with it.
uncomfortable man
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After all these years of waiting, the most we are going to get is some form of improved propecia? What about bald guys? You know, the ones that actually need the ****ing cure?! I guess we will have to just keep waiting then, huh?
I'm getting "Fu(k Costerallis" put on my tombstone...
I'm getting "Fu(k Costerallis" put on my tombstone...
zinny999
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But what would be a realistic regrowth witch suach as this product?
Just maintaining your nw3 or nw6, will it get thicker to the full amount of hair in the area where there are still growth? Or just stop miniturizing of current healthy hairs?
It amazes me how come researchers only now look into prostaglandins? Hemp seed oil grows hair by reducing prostaglandins. This has been well known.
Years ago I wrote to (other) hairloss boards giving my personal hairloss cure: drink quality white/green tea, and eat hempseed oil + zinc, don't eat straight sugar/margarine.
I had answers like- "those are not fda approved hairloss drugs, don't listen to him".
..also I don't trust ANY new drug to be safe based on FDA's approval. They are big money banksters and political power players who can not be trusted.
Look at finasteride for example. It was approved by FDA solely by grease payments because all those people know each-other and just change places in the institutions.
They din't do the research they should have done. FDA trusts drug companies own research they choose to give them. Can you believe that? Sounds absurd doesn't it!
FDA needs to bow GSK, Merck,ect. because big money owns the government. That is extreme liberal capitalism for you. Big companies and banksters own the government today. No it doesn't matter who you vote. That's just spectacle played for the sheeps for them to think they still have the power.
This went bit off-topic but really not at all. People here are waiting their mouths open for new unresearched synthetic drugs from the government (big companies).
Years ago I wrote to (other) hairloss boards giving my personal hairloss cure: drink quality white/green tea, and eat hempseed oil + zinc, don't eat straight sugar/margarine.
I had answers like- "those are not fda approved hairloss drugs, don't listen to him".
..also I don't trust ANY new drug to be safe based on FDA's approval. They are big money banksters and political power players who can not be trusted.
Look at finasteride for example. It was approved by FDA solely by grease payments because all those people know each-other and just change places in the institutions.
They din't do the research they should have done. FDA trusts drug companies own research they choose to give them. Can you believe that? Sounds absurd doesn't it!
FDA needs to bow GSK, Merck,ect. because big money owns the government. That is extreme liberal capitalism for you. Big companies and banksters own the government today. No it doesn't matter who you vote. That's just spectacle played for the sheeps for them to think they still have the power.
This went bit off-topic but really not at all. People here are waiting their mouths open for new unresearched synthetic drugs from the government (big companies).
Just one clarification -> it is ethatism that leads to corporationism. Not free market.
Corporations need the government to rise and government needs corporations to survive. That's why we live in a system called Corporationism (which is the evolved form of fascism).
Essentially governments and corporations are the same thing - Mankind's worst enemy.
Freedom - both - personal and economic, is what we really need.
LawOfThelema
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Jetset has some truth to him but not much. There is some point at which research into a drugs safety has to stop and the drug is just released to the market based on the available information. You can not test a drug indefinitely for safety, and how could you possibly know how long-term is long term enough to know an ill effect? You can't. This is a serious epistemic issue which is often overlooked by the conspiracy theorist. Of course, they often also take the position to avoid all drug so they can ignore that issue. I suppose that is a viable option, but I bet I could go in their medicine cabinets or their shower and find products with synthetic active ingredient in them.
Sparky4444
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Yeah...this is why smoking pot kills brain cells....you need prostaglandin's!! You just don't need it binding to hair follicles! Plenty of pot smokers who are bald...actually most of them are bald and they smoke to ease the pain of their baldness, no?? :smoke:
«Drugs are already available that reduce PGD2 levels, as it has been implicated in asthma, holding out the hope that developing a related product for baldness could be speedy.»
Ok so the obvious question is: what are those drugs that reduce PGD levels, have they been tested for male pattern baldness and how effective were they?
Ok so the obvious question is: what are those drugs that reduce PGD levels, have they been tested for male pattern baldness and how effective were they?
Sparky4444
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yeah, tongue firmly in cheek...I should have said plenty of dope smokers with full heads of hair....but killing brain cells?? You should meet my friend -- been smoking pot since he was 14 and he's 45 now...guy is a walking short-circuit
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the actual claim was that hemp oil grows hair...so my point about dope smokers being bald speaks to pot not having any relevance to hairloss
This is good news but let's not get too excited:
Despite the findings at the University of Pennsylvania, Dr Cotsarelis remains remarkably reserved about the potential of his PGD2 blocker as a true hair loss treatment. “We certainly think it would be good at preventing hair loss,†Cotsarelis said in an interview with the Daily Mail, “but we don’t know for sure that it would regrow.â€
Read more: http://www.beIgraviacentre.com/blog/is-a-new-pgd2-hair-loss-cure-imminent/
Despite the findings at the University of Pennsylvania, Dr Cotsarelis remains remarkably reserved about the potential of his PGD2 blocker as a true hair loss treatment. “We certainly think it would be good at preventing hair loss,†Cotsarelis said in an interview with the Daily Mail, “but we don’t know for sure that it would regrow.â€
Read more: http://www.beIgraviacentre.com/blog/is-a-new-pgd2-hair-loss-cure-imminent/