Injecting Testosterone Whilst Blocking Dht Via Dutasteride

[athlete97]

Long story short, male pattern baldness prone. Just got an FUE done to fill in temples. Been taking Finasteride for 3 years, Minoxidil, Nizoral.

Been weightlifting 6 days a week for the past couple years and I feel as if Finasteride has inhibited my gains. The gym is a huge priority for me. I dedicate most of my time working out, cooking my meals, and eating a strict diet to gain muscle. I feel as if I am putting all this effort forward to progress my physique but finasteride and the increase of estrogen is working against that. I know for a fact depleting DHT has an impact on strength in the central nervous system and also impacts muscle hardness.

Looking into hopping on 200 mg Testosterone cycle. Was wondering if anyone else has had these same issues and gone on dutasteride while on cycle and the effects it had. Dutasteride should be strong enough to fully deal with the DHT while exogenous test is added.

Ideally, test would be supra physiological which would help a great deal in the gym, combat the loss of libido and fatigue from depleting DHT, and also hair loss would not be an issue. I have managed to stop all shedding with Finasteride so I was thinking of slowly tapering off finasteride while adding dutasteride to my regime for a couple months to continue the hair loss stabilization.

Thoughts?

 

[Ikarus]

I think injecting testosterone whilst on 5AR inhibitors is insanely stupid. DHT isn't the only hormone to cause hair loss; testosterone in general is the issue. You would just bald similar to transgender men.

 

[MxMa]

Hey man i am working out 5 days a week. Weightlifting and high protein meals. And i am on dutasteride. I gained a lot in a short period of time. But duta can give you also a body fat i think so have to be careful with diet. And tiredness.

 

[athlete97]

Hey man i am working out 5 days a week. Weightlifting and high protein meals. And i am on dutasteride. I gained a lot in a short period of time. But duta can give you also a body fat i think so have to be careful with diet. And tiredness.

Depleting 70% of DHT vs 90% from finasteride vs dutasteride will have the same side effects mostly.
By gaining a lot do you mean gaining hair back or gaining muscle?

The reason body fat most likely increases isn't solely from dutasteride, but also from finasteride. This is due to the increased estrogen from depleting DHT. I was 7% bf and very lean then I started noticing abdominal, neck, and hip fat increase. I eat a strict diet with hardly any fats and definitely not saturated fats so I would know if I was eating something that caused that. Instead, I have come to the conclusion it is mostly due to the estrogen.

 

[itsjustsimon]

I know for a fact depleting DHT has an impact on strength in the central nervous system and also impacts muscle hardness.

200mg is not a lot.. Your body will still stop producing your natural testosterone and after that if you are on 5ar blocker, there’s a high risk of gyno and all kinds of problems.

I would totally blast 500mg cycle but my hair means more to me. Testosterone is androgen and bad for hair.

 

[Bagels]

Heard stories form some people who used dutasteride+TRT and did fine. But they may not have test sensitive hair follicles.

If your follicles are testosterone sensitive, you'll lose more hair.

 

[athlete97]

Heard stories form some people who used dutasteride+TRT and did fine. But they may not have test sensitive hair follicles.

If your follicles are testosterone sensitive, you'll lose more hair.

yeah only if we knew how to test if the follicles were test sensitive...would save a lot of time

 

[arnoldd]

yeah only if we knew how to test if the follicles were test sensitive...would save a lot of time

I did test 400 a week with 1 mg finasteride , still lose hairs but not much as with test alone.
200 is not too much and with dutasteride you shouldnt lose hair or just a little. However you are still inihbiting full dht. Which for sure it play an important role in strenght. Every oral steroid which give an important increase in strenght are dht derivates( oxy, dianabol..).
You must decide between your hobby and hairs.

 

[itsjustsimon]

I did test 400 a week with 1 mg finasteride , still lose hairs but not much as with test alone.
200 is not too much and with dutasteride you shouldnt lose hair or just a little. However you are still inihbiting full dht. Which for sure it play an important role in strenght. Every oral steroid which give an important increase in strenght are dht derivates( oxy, dianabol..).
You must decide between your hobby and hairs.

how aggresive is your hairloss in general?

 

[badhabiz]

injecting testosterone when you still on 5AR inhibitors may cause a spyke on estrogens and increase side effects

not mentioning the fact that exogenous testosterone is not a good idea if it is not the only option you have.

 

[arnoldd]

injecting testosterone when you still on 5AR inhibitors may cause a spyke on estrogens and increase side effects

not mentioning the fact that exogenous testosterone is not a good idea if it is not the only option you have.

Exactly. You are increasing estrogens from test itself ( more test = more conversion to estrogens ) , and you are also raising them with finasteride because the test that should be converted to dht will be converted to estrogens. Not to mention that dht is also an estrogens antagonist.

 

[arnoldd]

Stay natural bro. You are going to have big headaches with roids, and hair loss is just the minor side effect of them.