IS a Mature Hairline a real thing or a myth?

[atliens99]

On a lot of other forums everyone keeps saying the whole mature hairline thing is false and just means your going bald. IS there any truth to this?

 

[ripple-effect]

No, in some cases it means the person is going bald. In other cases it means the person is developing a new hairline.

 

[s.a.f]

Try to find a pic of any adult over the age of 30 who has the exact same hairline he had at 15.
Mature hairline is just a natural ageing progression. It does'nt mean your going bald most guys just get that small recession then stop but all balding receeders start with it and if you've got the m.p.b genetics it does'nt stop there.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Hardly anyone keeps their 15 year old hairline. In most cases it "matures" to a more angled look, whether that's a "NW1" or a "NW3". Some guys have straight hairlines, others are deeper. Either way how far you actually bald depends only on genetics. Virtually everyone gets a "mature" hairline, but those of us with balding genetics keep receding past that.

 

[Cassin]

Its real. Some people just don't go bald.

 

[s.a.f]

Well if you go bald by recession obviously the first thing to go is your juvenile hairline. Its just with m.p.b guys it does'nt stop at the mature hairline it keeps going.

 

[anxious1]

Its just a title...

So does it really matter whether it exists or not??

the fact is male pattern baldness can make u start to recede, and this receding may continue until ur completely bald, or it can stop and stay the same amount receded for the rest of ur life.

and all stages in between.

doesnt matter wat u call it when it stops.

 

[gh05]

Anyone know the 'mature hairline' test? Something about creasing your forehead and not being more than an inch from the highest crease? Trouble is I can crease my forehead all the way up if I choose to!!

 

[abcdefg]

A mature hairline is a made up term that does not really exist. I know plenty of guys that are 30+ years old with straight teenage hairlines that never matured. So how did there hairline never change? Its not like aging affects most people but just randomly skips a few people. So clearly its just a BS term made up by hair transplant doctors to give men some realistic expectation of our current crappy treatments and understand of hair loss in general.
I mean what even is male pattern baldness? I mean its just a man with more hair loss when compared to most other men. So a man with a little hair loss still lost hair so how is that not male pattern baldness just because it stops progressing or does not reach Norwood 7? Its such a subjective thing 10 people could answer it differently so some hair transplant doctors pull out some 20 year old hair loss chart and say that is what is considered male pattern baldness. It is bull in my opinion.

 

[gh05]

A mature hairline is a made up term that does not really exist. I know plenty of guys that are 30+ years old with straight teenage hairlines that never matured. So how did there hairline never change? Its not like aging affects most people but just randomly skips a few people. So clearly its just a BS term made up by hair transplant doctors to give men some realistic expectation of our current crappy treatments and understand of hair loss in general.
I mean what even is male pattern baldness? I mean its just a man with more hair loss when compared to most other men. So a man with a little hair loss still lost hair so how is that not male pattern baldness just because it stops progressing or does not reach Norwood 7? Its such a subjective thing 10 people could answer it differently so some hair transplant doctors pull out some 20 year old hair loss chart and say that is what is considered male pattern baldness. It is bull in my opinion.

But don't they mean that pretty much everyone has at least some maturation of the hairline, even if they won't 'go bald'.

I went to my dermatologist (he's a hair transplant surgeon too) and I pointed out my temple thinning and he said I shouldn't be concerned because 'pretty much everyone gets that'. I wasn't filled with confidence I'll be honest, but still - he's a damn sight more qualified than me on the matter.

Dr Rassman, author of balding blog and the apparent founder of may hair transplant techniques say there is such a thing as a mature hairline i.e. one which moves back from a juvenile hairline (which pretty much nobody keeps) and then stops right there. I just wish I knew for sure how to tell the difference.

 

[abcdefg]

Well they mean that, but its not true at all. Not everyone gets that I have seen with my own eyes guys whose hair line never matures. Its just made up BS I guess because most men do means its just hair loss you ignore? Makes no sense to me.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Well they mean that, but its not true at all. Not everyone gets that I have seen with my own eyes guys whose hair line never matures. Its just made up BS I guess because most men do means its just hair loss you ignore? Makes no sense to me.

Only about 4 to 5 percent of Caucasian men keep their juvenile hairline their entire life. If you know more than one or two guys who has kept their juvenile hairline, then either A) they're not Caucasian or B) you're a statistical outlier in knowing so many people with juvenile hairlines.

 

[abcdefg]

Okay, but statistical outlier or not they still exist so clearly not every man gets a mature hair line so clearly it was made up by someone. I still do not see what the difference is between minor hair loss and major hair loss if its all still hair loss just because most men get minor hair loss that then is acceptable?

 

[Primo]

I still do not see what the difference is between minor hair loss and major hair loss if its all still hair loss just because most men get minor hair loss that then is acceptable?

Yes, it is acceptable because it looks stabilised, as in doesn't look prone to further loss, that is how a mature hairline should look.

When my hair was a NW1.5 at 19, it never looked stable and I could see where it was going to thin out in the future at the temples, that's the difference.

 

[abcdefg]

I still do not see what the difference is between minor hair loss and major hair loss if its all still hair loss just because most men get minor hair loss that then is acceptable?

Yes, it is acceptable because it looks stabilised, as in doesn't look prone to further loss, that is how a mature hairline should look.

When my hair was a NW1.5 at 19, it never looked stable and I could see where it was going to thin out in the future at the temples, that's the difference.

You could have a mature hairline that looks stabilized as you say and then 6 months later you see a spot that starts thinning so I do not know what that really means. Its impossible to predict that a hair line will not change like a mature hair line. I also do not see how someone can call some hair loss some term like mature hairline but then panic over I guess a more mature hairline like a Norwood 3 or however far it goes.

 

[BulletFrost]

I have a question about receding hairlines...

Is the process for a mature hairline the same as a person with male pattern baldness? Or better yet, what does a maturing hairline look like while its moving back?

Will a person with the same hair type/colour as the mother take after the maternal grandfather for hairloss?

Thanks in advance! unk:

 

[fodandahalf]

Anyone know the 'mature hairline' test? Something about creasing your forehead and not being more than an inch from the highest crease? Trouble is I can crease my forehead all the way up if I choose to!!

Yeah this isn't the case for everybody, some of us have naturally high hairlines which is obviously unrelated to balding.The centre of my hairline has definitely not moved whatsoever, and the highest crease in the centre is 1.5 inches from my hairline. My forehead also has one higher crease which is only visible below the corners of my hairline where it appears receded, and not in the centre which makes it seem like this is the original shape of my hairline. I doubt it.

 

[abcdefg]

True how your hair line is naturally does not mean you lost any hair so that is clearly just normal. I think a mature hairline is caused by normal androgens just like any other hair loss because men that are castrated or most women never lose any hair, but its hard to say definitively.

 

[fodandahalf]

A mature hairline is a made up term that does not really exist. I know plenty of guys that are 30+ years old with straight teenage hairlines that never matured. So how did there hairline never change? Its not like aging affects most people but just randomly skips a few people. So clearly its just a BS term made up by hair transplant doctors to give men some realistic expectation of our current crappy treatments and understand of hair loss in general.
I mean what even is male pattern baldness? I mean its just a man with more hair loss when compared to most other men. So a man with a little hair loss still lost hair so how is that not male pattern baldness just because it stops progressing or does not reach Norwood 7? Its such a subjective thing 10 people could answer it differently so some hair transplant doctors pull out some 20 year old hair loss chart and say that is what is considered male pattern baldness. It is bull in my opinion.

It cannot be 'bull'. Both these terms are obviously not pre-existing, and are made up to describe what happens to people. They're just basically descriptions. male pattern baldness if you think about the name real hard, describes a certain kind of balding, which will take place either in a recession pattern, or a diffuse pattern. It is so common for men to progress to a certain stage (which is being referred to as a mature hairline) and stop, that it deserves its own term. Also, if you really do think that it is just male pattern baldness stopping at a certain point, why do you never hear of people who lose a tiny bit of hair in the diffuse pattern (i.e. vertex loss) and then just stop losing hair for good?